My next phone should it be Android, iOS, or even Windows Mobile ?

[AMDisTheBEST]

You DO need root or unlocked boot loader with and alternate ROM to tether with many carrier-specific models (read: MOST phones from any carrier that would block it on Apple devices in the first place).

You can block ads with a VPN on Apple devices too.

You can avoid that if you just buy an unlock phone upfront rather than subsided one off contract. It saves money too.
IOS ad block is limited. Browsing ads when you use safari is all its capable of. IF you want to block ads that occasionally pop up when playing angry birds, you are out of luck.

 

[CZroe]

Or you can just sideload PdaNet+, which doesn't need root.

I used PdaNet on my iPhone too. It really killed the battery. But let's compare like-to-like: Native tethering is different. There have been unofficial tethering apps that have made it onto both markets even without side-loading.

 

[CZroe]

You can avoid that if you just buy an unlock phone upfront rather than subsided one off contract. It saves money too.
IOS ad block is limited. Browsing ads when you use safari is all its capable of. IF you want to block ads that occasionally pop up when playing angry birds, you are out of luck.

I can and do. The issue is with your blanket statements that only apply to a small fraction of users. Also, a lot of people buying off-contract are still buying carrier-specific/customized versions. I went with T-Mobile for my Note 3 on AT&T service for good reason.

 

[sweenish]

[...] in Android you need root to block in-app ads well.

This is a true statement.

Exactly, thats the point i was trying to debate. Android can block ads in apps as well without root.

This is why nobody is agreeing with you. Just stop.

 

[Phynaz]

They do this once they receive a certificate of signature from apple which requires apples scrutiny and approval.

Wrong again.

We're going way off-topic here and this argument isn't helping the OP decide on a phone. So I will not be replying to you any further.

(Okay, just once more below)

 

[Phynaz]

It uses VPN to filter out ads within apps and browser whilst its ios counterparts work on browser only because of apple restrictions

And wrong again...

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/adblock/id691121579?mt=8

or

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/weblock-adblock-for-apps-websites/id558818638?mt=8

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

Wrong again.

We're going way off-topic here and this argument isn't helping the OP decide on a phone. So I will not be replying to you any further.

DO i have to spoon feed you? IOS requires a digital certificate to install, what part of it dont you understand? If a non app store app does not have the proper security certificate, it can not download. What utility do you use to download your so call non app store apps? Name it and i'll enlighten you why you are able to install it. You are simply creating myths and lying to yourself.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

This is a true statement.

Check out adguard. I cant help you learn if you dont do your own research

This is why nobody is agreeing with you. Just stop.

If everyone agrees i wouldnt be here now would i? :whiste:

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

And wrong again...

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/adblock/id691121579?mt=8

or

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/weblock-adblock-for-apps-websites/id558818638?mt=8

Using VPN also? wow, im quite surprise apple allows those apps to be in the app store. Alright then, even if ads can be block, you still can not download apps from third party sources and if apple remove them from the app store, you are done. no good :thumbsdown:

 

[poofyhairguy]

Alright then, even if ads can be block, you still can not download apps from third party sources and if apple remove them from the app store, you are done. no good :thumbsdown:

That isn't completely true. With Xcode and the iOS App Signer you can sideload applications without jailbreak. That is how I got Kodi on my iPad.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

That isn't completely true. With Xcode and the iOS App Signer you can sideload applications without jailbreak. That is how I got Kodi on my iPad.

but arent you still using the tools developed my apple to do it though?

 

[CZroe]

but arent you still using the tools developed my apple to do it though?

LOL! Freely available tools, just like Android has freely-available tools made by Google. Shocker!

Would you say that side-loading a Visual Basic 6 app on Windows 98 doesn't count because Microsoft made Visual Studio?!

 

[chimaxi83]

I owned a few idevices. two ipads, one iphone 5 and then an iphone 6 before i switched to android.

havent used an iphone since ios7, that was like... 2013?

Lol, you guys getting trolled by an android fanboy liar, with a trollish username to boot.

 

[CZroe]

Using VPN also? wow, im quite surprise apple allows those apps to be in the app store. Alright then, even if ads can be block, you still can not download apps from third party sources and if apple remove them from the app store, you are done. no good :thumbsdown:

If you know what VPN is then you know that it is required by enterprises and that Apple MUST support VPN. The fact that it surprises you... does not surprise me.

 

[Ichinisan]

You can avoid that if you just buy an unlock phone upfront rather than subsided one off contract. It saves money too.
IOS ad block is limited. Browsing ads when you use safari is all its capable of. IF you want to block ads that occasionally pop up when playing angry birds, you are out of luck.

If I actually use an app, I pay the $1 to support the app developer and get rid of ads.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

LOL! Freely available tools, just like Android has freely-available tools made by Google. Shocker!

Would you say that side-loading a Visual Basic 6 app on Windows 98 doesn't count because Microsoft made Visual Studio?!

whoa, hold on there. These are either work around or loopholes, not actual consumer feature. And if you are advance and adventurous enough to use developer tools to side load apps and thinker your device to such a degree, why would you want a close ecosystem like IOS? Plus, YOU STILL NEED DIGITAL CERTIFICATE from apple which it can revoke anytime.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

If you know what VPN is then you know that it is required by enterprises and that Apple MUST support VPN. The fact that it surprises you... does not surprise me.

. VPN used to strip ads is unprecedented. You should look up apple's history but whatever. I am giving up. This thread is flaming. Im not trolling if my points are legit and apple die hards lie. bye bye

 

[bigboxes]

Well, some of us have grown up and are busy raising children and working jobs and I spend my hours providing for my family and pursuing my interests in my free time. I built all my windows machines (aside from the laptops obviously) and I enjoyed building my new Skylake box. Nowadays, spending hours upon hours configuring obscure settings and futzing with pointless benchmarks and whittling away the hours screwing around with software and hardware doesn't hold my interest. I just want my stuff to work and help me get my work done and run my home network without complaint. The beauty of this current era in computing is that the huge vacuum of time just to get basic things working (DIP switches and COM ports anyone) is gone. It seems somewhat ironic to have someone turn up their nose as they accuse you of snobbery for having an iPhone simply because you're not interested in rooting a phone or playing with it like a toy but need to have a reliable device. I'm done with computers and devices demanding my time and energy. I have human mouths to feed. My Android phone is less alluring to me than my child's desire to play outside with her dad, or some Disney Infinity on the weekend. ..

Anyways... like you're the only one who ever had to grow up. Or those that are grown up stop their tech hobbies. I get it. You don't want to spend a lot of time to make your devices work. I feel your pain. I was lamenting the change in AT and in society in general. Again, Engadget is --> this way. Now, I think I will get off your lawn.

 

[poofyhairguy]

And if you are advance and adventurous enough to use developer tools to side load apps and thinker your device to such a degree, why would you want a close ecosystem like IOS?

For me the answer is "every ten inch Android tablet sucks."

 

[bigboxes]

For me the answer is "every ten inch Android tablet sucks."

Yeah, I've never been super happy with my Tab S 10.5. I got my wife a Tab A 8.0 for x-mas and it's very snappy. Don't know about the Tab A 9.7.

 

[Phynaz]

Somebody that doesn't know the difference between a VPN and a proxy also doesn't know what a self-signed certificate is

 

[poofyhairguy]

Somebody that doesn't know the difference between a VPN and a proxy also doesn't know what a self-signed certificate is

True. But to be fair Apple can take down sideloading apps via that loophole, like they did to f.lux. Anything they think is in violation of the Developer Program Agreement can be taken down, so really Apple can block this loophole if they want to.

To be fair on the f.lux situation too, Apple then built that feature into the OS and me likey like.

 

[CZroe]

Somebody that doesn't know the difference between a VPN and a proxy also doesn't know what a self-signed certificate is

Sure, a VPN can connect you through a different proxy server on another network that can filter the ads. That's how as filtering VPN services work. The end user doesn't have to know how it works to know that much about VPNs.

VPNs are often used in business to work from home so users can access resources as if they were on the local network, often without routing their own Internet traffic through their proxy servers.

Just not sure why this distinguish meant was needed. The point is: business users need their phones and devices to support VPNs for remote access to work resources that are not accessible to the public Internet. iPhones MUST support VPNs for that reason. Anyone who knows what a VPN is should know that. Once they know that, the. They know that ad-blocking VPN services that run proxy servers are, indeed, do-able on iOS.

 

[Phynaz]

I wasn't talking about you CZ. Sorry if you got that impression.

The way the ad blockers work on iOS is they setup a proxy server on the device itself, so all network traffic gets routed thru the ad block app. And unlike what a certain someone in this thread may think, that's the way it's been done for at least four years.

 

[sweenish]

First time seeing Adguard, and it seems not worth it at all.

The last thing I need is a "local vpn server" running 24/7 on my phone. It's a clever workaround to a problem I don't even have.

Because I don't put crap on my phone. Any apps with ads are there because I allow them to be there to support the dev. When browsing, if a site bothers me too much I will either stop visiting it or relegate it to Firefox only.

But sure, I'll concede that system-wide ad blocking can be done on Android without root.