My next phone should it be Android, iOS, or even Windows Mobile ?

[Kartajan]

Android vs iOS really breaks down as follows:
iOS- I want it to just work. I don't want to know the details on how.
Nothing says make sure the "User Experience" is consistent like owning the HW + the SW
Android: I want it to do what I want. I am not afraid to void my warranty if I get things how I want them.
And I can put CM on it if I want to...

(full disclosure- I am all Android.)
ADB/ Bootloader are NOT rooting- just advanced usage.
Rooting is forcibly taking admin rights. some manufacturers (esp. Amazon) will take measures to punish you for that (including possibly bricking your phone).
Jailbreaking is forcibly taking admin rights. Apple does not approve, and will take measures to punish you for that (including possibly bricking your phone).

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

Android vs iOS really breaks down as follows:
iOS- I want it to just work. I don't want to know the details on how.
Nothing says make sure the "User Experience" is consistent like owning the HW + the SW
Android: I want it to do what I want. I am not afraid to void my warranty if I get things how I want them.
And I can put CM on it if I want to...

(full disclosure- I am all Android.)
ADB/ Bootloader are NOT rooting- just advanced usage.
Rooting is forcibly taking admin rights. some manufacturers (esp. Amazon) will take measures to punish you for that (including possibly bricking your phone).
Jailbreaking is forcibly taking admin rights. Apple does not approve, and will take measures to punish you for that (including possibly bricking your phone).

One key difference, rooting does not need to use an exploit to hack the system. You certainly do not find developer phones like nexus requiring an exploit now do you? that defeats the whole purpose of unlocking the bootloader for android development. Bootloader unlocked phone is meant to grant superuser access should the consumer desire it. It isnt rooting but allows you to root it with ADB if you can flash a working binary for it.

And really, if IOS users simply want it to work, why would there be such a large jailbreaking community? Remember, jailbreaking is a lot harder than rooting because a hack is required and can be pretty unstable. That is anything but user friendly, convenient, and peace of mind for the user.

 

[Kartajan]

iOS definition of "just work" = work as Apple intended

rooting does not need an exploit for MOST android devices, but some are just as locked down as iOS device.

 

[poofyhairguy]

but some are just as locked down as iOS device.

Uh....how so?

Every Android phone I have touched let me install a file manager, a console emulator, or video playback software like Kodi. These are all things that you need a jailbreak (or a developer setup) to get on an iOS device.

 

[Kartajan]

Android lock downs trend more by CARRIER. And most ANDROID devices do not require root for the items you mentioned. I know mine didn't need root for that...

(we mostly agree on most of this stuff....)

 

[poofyhairguy]

Android lock downs trend more by CARRIER. And most devices do not require root for the items you mentioned. I know mine didn't need root for that...

Sure.

I guess my point was that an Android phone in a non-rooted bootloader locked state is still WAY more open than any non-jailbroken iOS device just because Google is way more permissive about what it lets into its walled garden. Oh and iOS phones won't install apps from outside sources.

 

[bigboxes]

I thought this was a techie site and here we have all sorts of users settling on Apple and their closed ecosystem. My how AT has changed throughout the years.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

Uh....how so?

Every Android phone I have touched let me install a file manager, a console emulator, or video playback software like Kodi. These are all things that you need a jailbreak (or a developer setup) to get on an iOS device.

Dont forget ad blocker. I can literally go on a website, download a software and then install it on my phone like on a pc. no root necessary. No such thing on IOS. Sfari is also lacking a download manager and the system itself has no file browser. Correct me if im wrong but i dont believe there is third party browser alternative on the app store. Even chrome for ios is simply a plugin/skin on top of the safari. On android firefox or chrome, i can download whatever the hell i want, even videos. I can just go to a streaming site and long press the the screen and then select save. Video will then download in the background. Afterwards, i dump them into my video folder and they appear on my default movie app playlist. sweet

 

[Ichinisan]

Dont forget ad blocker. I can literally go on a website, download a software and then install it on my phone like on a pc. no root necessary. No such thing on IOS.

GET UP TO SPEED WITH THE FEATURES OF IOS.

iOS 9 Safari supports "content blockers" natively now. I use "Purify" and it works very well for me.

 

[nerp]

I thought this was a techie site and here we have all sorts of users settling on Apple and their closed ecosystem. My how AT has changed throughout the years.

Well, I have an iPhone and an iPad. I also have an iMac upstairs for the family to use.
But I also have an Android phone, a Windows phone, a PC, a Windows Media Center box, an Xbox 360, a macbook pro, a thinkpad, a Toshiba laptop, a Surface 3 and a WHS machine.

I might tout the reasons why I finally ditched everything for the iPhone. I might enjoy using my Macs on occasion. But I'm writing this on my PC. I think I'm like a lot of AT users.

 

[bigboxes]

Well, I have an iPhone and an iPad. I also have an iMac upstairs for the family to use.
But I also have an Android phone, a Windows phone, a PC, a Windows Media Center box, an Xbox 360, a macbook pro, a thinkpad, a Toshiba laptop, a Surface 3 and a WHS machine.

I might tout the reasons why I finally ditched everything for the iPhone. I might enjoy using my Macs on occasion. But I'm writing this on my PC. I think I'm like a lot of AT users.

You are just showing what I said is true. The masses have migrated to devices that are appliances. Many on this site no longer look to see what they can do with their equipment. They wait until the marketing divisions come out with their favorite color before they make a purchase decision. Day by day AT becomes more like Engadget, if not for the content, then for their visitors. Kind of like chicken and the egg.

 

[Ettitt]

I have used Android, iOS and Windows. Among these Android is the best operating system. Main reason is you have so many option in Android. I mean many companies are producing smartphones of Android operating system.

 

[maevinj]

Go for Android. You can flash great custom roms and install custom launcher with custom theme.
Windows phone has no wall paper. Tiles are Ugly. Crashes all the time when browsing. Mutitasking is non existent. "App is resuming" everytime you switch app. IOS has only App Store for softwares. Stupid closed wall mentality. Jailbreaking, unlike android rooting, means hacking your device which to me sounds like breaking down the door to your own house so you can gain access. Bad multitasking. Program can't run in background which means if you download something and switch app, download is a failed.

When was the last time you used a Windows Phone? They do have wallpapers. Tiles being ugly are a personal preference.(I like them). Browsing doesn't crash on Windows 10. The app is resuming issue isn't as prevalent on Windows 10.
I still wouldn't recommend it though, but don't spread lies about it.

 

[Phynaz]

Dont forget ad blocker. I can literally go on a website, download a software and then install it on my phone like on a pc. no root necessary. No such thing on IOS. Sfari is also lacking a download manager and the system itself has no file browser. Correct me if im wrong but i dont believe there is third party browser alternative on the app store. Even chrome for ios is simply a plugin/skin on top of the safari. On android firefox or chrome, i can download whatever the hell i want, even videos. I can just go to a streaming site and long press the the screen and then select save. Video will then download in the background. Afterwards, i dump them into my video folder and they appear on my default movie app playlist. sweet

Your information about phones seems to be very out of date. What phone do you use?

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

Your information about phones seems to be very out of date. What phone do you use?

android phone. havent used an iphone since ios7, that was like... 2013? Anyway, i still have ipads/iphones around, stored away somewhere in a closet, collecting dust.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

When was the last time you used a Windows Phone? They do have wallpapers. Tiles being ugly are a personal preference.(I like them). Browsing doesn't crash on Windows 10. The app is resuming issue isn't as prevalent on Windows 10.
I still wouldn't recommend it though, but don't spread lies about it.

This year. Got a cheap one off contract. Running on windows 8.1. I dont see wallpaper! vlack screen with square tiles are all i see.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

GET UP TO SPEED WITH THE FEATURES OF IOS.

iOS 9 Safari supports "content blockers" natively now. I use "Purify" and it works very well for me.

Can your safari blocks ads in other apps? lmao. IOS is for simple minded users. thats it

 

[sweenish]

This year. Got a cheap one off contract. Running on windows 8.1. I dont see wallpaper! vlack screen with square tiles are all i see.

You do realize you're still arguing with old information? WP10 is a thing.

Android system-wide ad-blocking requires root, which is just as difficult as a jailbreak, depending on the device. And I'm pretty sure that jail-broken iOS also allows system-wide ad-blocking.

It's much better to get your ducks in a row, as opposed to arguing with gut reactions and out-dated information.

 

[tsupersonic]

This is why you stop feeding the troll (I said this a while back). The person clearly is biased towards Android, which is all fine and well. However, don't spread misfucking information to people. He clearly doesn't have a handle on the current situation on iOS or WM/WP. At this point, this thread has served its purpose.

 

[nerp]

You are just showing what I said is true. The masses have migrated to devices that are appliances. Many on this site no longer look to see what they can do with their equipment. They wait until the marketing divisions come out with their favorite color before they make a purchase decision. Day by day AT becomes more like Engadget, if not for the content, then for their visitors. Kind of like chicken and the egg.

Well, some of us have grown up and are busy raising children and working jobs and I spend my hours providing for my family and pursuing my interests in my free time. I built all my windows machines (aside from the laptops obviously) and I enjoyed building my new Skylake box. Nowadays, spending hours upon hours configuring obscure settings and futzing with pointless benchmarks and whittling away the hours screwing around with software and hardware doesn't hold my interest. I just want my stuff to work and help me get my work done and run my home network without complaint. The beauty of this current era in computing is that the huge vacuum of time just to get basic things working (DIP switches and COM ports anyone) is gone. It seems somewhat ironic to have someone turn up their nose as they accuse you of snobbery for having an iPhone simply because you're not interested in rooting a phone or playing with it like a toy but need to have a reliable device. I'm done with computers and devices demanding my time and energy. I have human mouths to feed. My Android phone is less alluring to me than my child's desire to play outside with her dad, or some Disney Infinity on the weekend. ..

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

You do realize you're still arguing with old information? WP10 is a thing.

Android system-wide ad-blocking requires root, which is just as difficult as a jailbreak, depending on the device. And I'm pretty sure that jail-broken iOS also allows system-wide ad-blocking.

It's much better to get your ducks in a row, as opposed to arguing with gut reactions and out-dated information.

Android does not require root to ad block. You arent following my argument are you? Android does not need to root to download 3rd party apps either, unlike IOS which many people jailbreak just to download pirated/hacked/mod apps... not that i condone that. Rooting is for flash a custom OS on your device nowadays. Many root required apps on android are no longer necessary because many of the functions are already integrated into the OS. On iPhone, you still need to jailbreak which in my analogy, i compare it to breaking down your own door, just to have features and functionalities android users enjoy WITHOUT ROOT. E.g. adding widgets, e.g adding automation, e.g ad block obviously :awe: and my favorite, custom launcher with wide myriad of theme packs. I can get my home screen to look anything i want it too.

windows 10 for mobile is still in beta the last time i check. If it is not yet commercial mainstream, why even bother to compare?

Rooting is nowhere as difficult as IOS, many android phones today are bootloader unlocked while IOS bootloader is shut tight. If an OEM is close minded like apple and decide to shut down their version of android, there is always the option to switch over to another manufacturer. No such freedom for IOS. Either accept apple's tight control or jailbreak.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

This is why you stop feeding the troll (I said this a while back). The person clearly is biased towards Android, which is all fine and well. However, don't spread misfucking information to people. He clearly doesn't have a handle on the current situation on iOS or WM/WP. At this point, this thread has served its purpose.

You're welcome to refute me with actual sound reasoning. If not, you are merely throwing at me ad hominem like a child who couldnt handle a dispute lol

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

Well, some of us have grown up and are busy raising children and working jobs and I spend my hours providing for my family and pursuing my interests in my free time. I built all my windows machines (aside from the laptops obviously) and I enjoyed building my new Skylake box. Nowadays, spending hours upon hours configuring obscure settings and futzing with pointless benchmarks and whittling away the hours screwing around with software and hardware doesn't hold my interest. I just want my stuff to work and help me get my work done and run my home network without complaint. The beauty of this current era in computing is that the huge vacuum of time just to get basic things working (DIP switches and COM ports anyone) is gone. It seems somewhat ironic to have someone turn up their nose as they accuse you of snobbery for having an iPhone simply because you're not interested in rooting a phone or playing with it like a toy but need to have a reliable device. I'm done with computers and devices demanding my time and energy. I have human mouths to feed. My Android phone is less alluring to me than my child's desire to play outside with her dad, or some Disney Infinity on the weekend. ..

Dont put words into my mouth. Not accusing anyone of snobbery and if you actually READ my posts, i had iterate countless times root is not needed for many of the functionalities that android users enjoy but IOS users do not. Shesh, IOS users are so easily offended. reminds of xbox vs ps4. You are angry because....??? why? someone likes android more because its more open? :|

 

[Phynaz]

Android does not require root to ad block.

Try to get it through your head that neither of the other platforms require it either.

You don't need root to download 3rd party apps on iOS.

You still haven't stated which device you use. Android isn't a device.

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

Try to get it through your head that neither of the other platforms require it either.

You don't need root to download 3rd party apps on iOS.

You still haven't stated which device you use. Android isn't a device.

oh really? checking.... app store is still the only option. Say that again when i can go on a website and just download an IOS app right there without the need to open up the app store or iTunes account.