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SoulAssassin

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Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Next time call a cop. Get the "DAD" arrested for neglect and the kid in a foster home. You tried to be socially responsible but forgot that "no good deed goes unpunished".

The construction was going on a block away. I fail to see anything close to neglect. Please go away.

 

iamaelephant

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For the most part I think the OP might be right, but I also think he is contributing to the mentality that American (and many other nationalities too) kids need to be wrapped in cotton wool and protected from the big bad world. The machines were a block up the road and posed virtually no threat. Even if there was some sort of danger, the road crew would have shooed the kid anyway. That's my opinion just from reading the OP, maybe the situation was more dangerous than how I am picturing it.
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: jjones
In my experience, obnoxious, stupid children are a direct reflection of their obnoxious, stupid parents. Standing by and watching the little retard get flattened by construction equipment is just one way of not obstructing the cleansing of the gene pool. One can only hope that the parents have coronaries when they hear little Billy got squashed.

life is life, no matter how crappy that person may be.

and the family would probably get a ton of cash for it happening. as a parent, bad or not no kid deserves to be offed just because hes a jackass along with his dad
 

iamaelephant

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Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
what the hell man? you should of just kept your trap shut and got on with your own business....

if the kid falls under the tarmac laying machine or the steam roller, then boo hoo its not your fault.

That's not how a civilized society works, and it disgusts me that you think that way. In a modern, civilized society we look after each other, particularly the young.

i mean it is especially not worth giving kids a sound piece of advice today becuase they do not have respect for elders and clearly think that in their short 10-15 year life they know all there is to know about life and that you are 100% wrong.

That's how I thought when I was a kid. That's how all of my friends thought, that's how most kids think. It's a well known fact that young people have a false sense of invulnerability and know-it-all-ism. That's why we have to set artificial boundaries for them.


if thats the case id rather just let them get on with it. ill be there laughing my ass off when it all goes terribly wrong. still it doesnt sound like he was in any imminent danger, and by the sounds of things its probably no great loss if the whole family went under the steam roller.

Again this disgusts me. The world would be a better place without people like you.
 

kranky

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Originally posted by: D1gger
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Your neighbor was right, you were wrong.

You offered up advice, telling the kid to play somewhere else. He didn't take the advice. End of story. Time to get off your power trip and stop being the neighborhood safety police.

:thumbsup:

Right you are oh wise one.

At this point is would be up to the construction workers to chase the kid away if he was getting too close for safety. It was not the OP's place to continue to scold this kid.

So the OP was wrong to chase the kid off for being in an unsafe place, but if the construction crew did, that would be OK? How does that make any sense? If the kid is endangering himself, wouldn't it be appropriate for ANYONE to tell the kid about it?
 

Gunslinger08

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Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: D1gger
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Your neighbor was right, you were wrong.

You offered up advice, telling the kid to play somewhere else. He didn't take the advice. End of story. Time to get off your power trip and stop being the neighborhood safety police.

:thumbsup:

Right you are oh wise one.

At this point is would be up to the construction workers to chase the kid away if he was getting too close for safety. It was not the OP's place to continue to scold this kid.

So the OP was wrong to chase the kid off for being in an unsafe place, but if the construction crew did, that would be OK? How does that make any sense? If the kid is endangering himself, wouldn't it be appropriate for ANYONE to tell the kid about it?

No! Mind your own damn business! I will not watch my kid and allow him to injure/kill himself if I want to!
 

sandorski

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OP should have dropped it after the first warning to the kid, but he is to be commended for at least caring.

Neighbour is an asshole, but who knows what the kid told him? Some parents just accept what their kids say in these situation, so if the OP told him a totally different story he may have simply dismissed everything the OP said.
 

iamaelephant

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Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Next time call a cop. Get the "DAD" arrested for neglect and the kid in a foster home. You tried to be socially responsible but forgot that "no good deed goes unpunished".

Operator: 9-1-1, what's your emergency?
WHAMPOM: There's some kid riding his bike on the road near my driveway, and he talked back at me when I yelled at him. Send the cops.
Operator: ...
WHAMPOM: Hello?
 

SoulAssassin

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Originally posted by: kranky
So the OP was wrong to chase the kid off for being in an unsafe place, but if the construction crew did, that would be OK? How does that make any sense? If the kid is endangering himself, wouldn't it be appropriate for ANYONE to tell the kid about it?

It would, but there's a difference between telling the kid about it and pretty much demanding it and countering the instructions from the child's father. As I previously stated I applaud the OPer for the first action he took warning the kid (though I still don't think the danger was really there) it's after that where he went wrong.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: D1gger
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Your neighbor was right, you were wrong.

You offered up advice, telling the kid to play somewhere else. He didn't take the advice. End of story. Time to get off your power trip and stop being the neighborhood safety police.

:thumbsup:

Right you are oh wise one.

At this point is would be up to the construction workers to chase the kid away if he was getting too close for safety. It was not the OP's place to continue to scold this kid.

So the OP was wrong to chase the kid off for being in an unsafe place, but if the construction crew did, that would be OK? How does that make any sense? If the kid is endangering himself, wouldn't it be appropriate for ANYONE to tell the kid about it?

Not really. One warning is enough. Past that it's up to darwin.

OP cannot chase kid off public property. However workers of public property can. I would surely walk over to OP's house and tell him he can't tell my kid what to do just to put him in the wrong. Next comes the call to the cops for harrasing my kid if he did it again, past that it comes to blows.

Kid is engangering his wellbeing by his own choice. Let him do it and learn his lesson. C'mon, we all had "that guy" in the neighborhood who would like to tell people what to do. What did we do? Do it some more and tell our parents then watch the fight between the parents. good times...good times.
 

Gunslinger08

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: D1gger
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Your neighbor was right, you were wrong.

You offered up advice, telling the kid to play somewhere else. He didn't take the advice. End of story. Time to get off your power trip and stop being the neighborhood safety police.

:thumbsup:

Right you are oh wise one.

At this point is would be up to the construction workers to chase the kid away if he was getting too close for safety. It was not the OP's place to continue to scold this kid.

So the OP was wrong to chase the kid off for being in an unsafe place, but if the construction crew did, that would be OK? How does that make any sense? If the kid is endangering himself, wouldn't it be appropriate for ANYONE to tell the kid about it?

Not really. One warning is enough. Past that it's up to darwin.

OP cannot chase kid off public property. However workers of public property can. I would surely walk over to OP's house and tell him he can't tell my kid what to do just to put him in the wrong. Next comes the call to the cops for harrasing my kid if he did it again, past that it comes to blows.

Kid is engangering his wellbeing by his own choice. Let him do it and learn his lesson. C'mon, we all had "that guy" in the neighborhood who would like to tell people what to do. What did we do? Do it some more and tell our parents then watch the fight between the parents. good times...good times.

That's why we let our kids get in cars and try to drive when they're 9 years old, or run their own bath water when they're 2, or play with knives when they're 3.

Yes, you have to give kids their freedom and let them make their own mistakes, but letting them severely injure/kill themselves just to teach them a lesson is beyond ignorant.

Also, going to blows over some guy telling your kid to stay away from danger shows you have some serious issues.
 

bsobel

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So the OP was wrong to chase the kid off for being in an unsafe place, but if the construction crew did, that would be OK? How does that make any sense? If the kid is endangering himself, wouldn't it be appropriate for ANYONE to tell the kid about it?

Kranky, as it should be painfully clear from reading the thread. The kid was obviously NOT in danger. The OP over reacted and thought he could be. Once he did and was called on it, he dug his heels in and escalated the situation. Yes its OK for the construction crew to send him away, they have a realistic and proffesional view of the danger the child was in, not the neighbor half a block away. It's completely amazing to me you fail to grasp the obvious difference.

 

waggy

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Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: D1gger
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Your neighbor was right, you were wrong.

You offered up advice, telling the kid to play somewhere else. He didn't take the advice. End of story. Time to get off your power trip and stop being the neighborhood safety police.

:thumbsup:

Right you are oh wise one.

At this point is would be up to the construction workers to chase the kid away if he was getting too close for safety. It was not the OP's place to continue to scold this kid.

So the OP was wrong to chase the kid off for being in an unsafe place, but if the construction crew did, that would be OK? How does that make any sense? If the kid is endangering himself, wouldn't it be appropriate for ANYONE to tell the kid about it?

HE was a block away! he was not in any danger.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: D1gger
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Your neighbor was right, you were wrong.

You offered up advice, telling the kid to play somewhere else. He didn't take the advice. End of story. Time to get off your power trip and stop being the neighborhood safety police.

:thumbsup:

Right you are oh wise one.

At this point is would be up to the construction workers to chase the kid away if he was getting too close for safety. It was not the OP's place to continue to scold this kid.

So the OP was wrong to chase the kid off for being in an unsafe place, but if the construction crew did, that would be OK? How does that make any sense? If the kid is endangering himself, wouldn't it be appropriate for ANYONE to tell the kid about it?

The OP was wrong for pressing the issue.

1) OP bitchin' out the kid for playing around on PUBLIC property in NO immediate danger from a crew that is a block down the road. Kid tells dad, dad comes back and tells OP to mind his effin' business.

** If the construction crew was in close proximity to the kid, the kid would likely have sense enough not to ride around... however, if the kid is a dumbass... **

2) Construction crew tells kid, "Buzz off, we're trying to pave." Kid gets pissed and tells his dad some guy says he can't ride in the street. Dad comes out, sees that the person in question is a paver and not some Joe Schmo and likely turns around and goes back in his house w/o incident.

The OP really had no authority to tell the kid anything if was not in immediate danger. I guess that telling him nicely the first time is commendable, but after that you just come across as being an ass.
 

bsobel

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Also, going to blows over some guy telling your kid to stay away from danger shows you have some serious issues.

Rule #1 Everyone is tough on the internet
Rule #2 Everything posted is a fair and accurate description of events and there is no chance it's one sided
Rule #3 Eventually Nazi's will be mentioned.

 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
That's why we let our kids get in cars and try to drive when they're 9 years old, or run their own bath water when they're 2, or play with knives when they're 3.

Yes, you have to give kids their freedom and let them make their own mistakes, but letting them severely injure/kill themselves just to teach them a lesson is beyond ignorant.

Also, going to blows over some guy telling your kid to stay away from danger shows you have some serious issues.

All I'm trying to say is never try to parent another's child, especially when the child was given a direct order to disregard said asshat. It sparks off protection mechanisms that defy logic.

Don't tell me you didn't use this to your advantage when you were a kid.
 

esun

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You were both wrong, IMO. You shouldn't bother the kid or call out his father, but his father should have taught him a little respect for others (and have some himself). Adults can be so immature sometimes it's almost scary.
 

potato28

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Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
While your intentions were good, you overstepped your boundaries. Told the kid what to do once, he obviously relayed the message to his father, his father overrode your instructions and the kid did was his father told him to do. MYOFB.

But who would've been calling 911 if the kid got hurt? I think OP did the right thing.
 
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Originally posted by: iamaelephant
For the most part I think the OP might be right, but I also think he is contributing to the mentality that American (and many other nationalities too) kids need to be wrapped in cotton wool and protected from the big bad world. The machines were a block up the road and posed virtually no threat. Even if there was some sort of danger, the road crew would have shooed the kid anyway. That's my opinion just from reading the OP, maybe the situation was more dangerous than how I am picturing it.

I'm not seeing how this contributes to that mentality, since that is usually applied to "too much sex/violence on TV, oh noes!!" but w/e. OP was in the right in my opinion, and I see no issue with telling the kid to ride elsewhere when he's riding his bike up and down the street right up to the construction, though I doubt he was in any real danger.
 
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Originally posted by: bsobel
So the OP was wrong to chase the kid off for being in an unsafe place, but if the construction crew did, that would be OK? How does that make any sense? If the kid is endangering himself, wouldn't it be appropriate for ANYONE to tell the kid about it?

Kranky, as it should be painfully clear from reading the thread. The kid was obviously NOT in danger. The OP over reacted and thought he could be. Once he did and was called on it, he dug his heels in and escalated the situation. Yes its OK for the construction crew to send him away, they have a realistic and proffesional view of the danger the child was in, not the neighbor half a block away. It's completely amazing to me you fail to grasp the obvious difference.

i have no problem with how the OP acted especially with the kid acting like a turd.