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Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: ColdFusion718
Whatever happened to social responsibility? All of you who said the OP should mind his own business, sure he should have. However, here's the flip side. If you had kids who were doing something obviously dangerous to their safety, wouldn't you appreciated if a kind neighbor exercised some adult authority over them? Jesus H. Christ, we've become a nation of "all about me"'s. Sure, it is your right to tell your children what to do, but damn it sometimes they just don't have any sense when you are not around, that's when the good neighbor comes in handy.
The OP went overboard. He told the kid twice, and explained it. Once the kid came back again, he needed to let the matter drop.

He crossed the line from "good neighbor" and went straight into "neighborhood busybody".

ZV
 

Gunslinger08

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Don't listen to these guys. Just because someone else is a horrible parent doesn't mean you should let the kid put himself in danger without really letting him know it's stupid and dangerous.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Linflas
And there in a nutshell is the genesis of lack of respect for authority. Back when I was a kid if an adult told me to not ride my bike in that area I didn't ride my bike there. If had gone to my father he would have backed up the neighbor unless it was something totally off the wall and even then he probably would have somewhat backed the adult and had a conversation with him later with me not around.

if the kid is rideing on private property yeah. i fine tell the kid to get off. BUT it was a public road.

teh OP went overboard. tell him once. the kid had permision to ride in the street.
 

PepePeru

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if that were my parents they would have taken your side, Citrix.

but then again, as i kid, i respected my elders. if i sassed back to my parents or if they saw me sassing a neighbor i wouldve been punished.
 

KLin

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Sounds like we need a poll to see if the OP was in the wrong or not. :p
 

jdini76

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This was a sitution you should have let Darwin handle. Tell the kid once. After that, there ain't much you can do.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
While your intentions were good, you overstepped your boundaries. Told the kid what to do once, he obviously relayed the message to his father, his father overrode your instructions and the kid did was his father told him to do. MYOFB.

The only ones overstepping boundaries is people like you supporting bad parenting.

Adults are supposed to be the examples for the kids.

Letting that kid do whatever the fvk he wants is what breeds criminals.

There is a fine line between setting an example and overstepping a "boundary" and Citrix got no where near the fine line.

The father is a bad example, most likely a bad parent and the kid is already a sh!t.
 

Andy22

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Your neighbor was right, you were wrong.

You offered up advice, telling the kid to play somewhere else. He didn't take the advice. End of story. Time to get off your power trip and stop being the neighborhood safety police.

x2 However...the other dad is a jerk and his son looks to be growing up just like him.

 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: Linflas
And there in a nutshell is the genesis of lack of respect for authority. Back when I was a kid if an adult told me to not ride my bike in that area I didn't ride my bike there. If had gone to my father he would have backed up the neighbor unless it was something totally off the wall and even then he probably would have somewhat backed the adult and had a conversation with him later with me not around.

thats right. when i was a kid if an adult told me something like that my dad would have expetcted nothing less than to comply and i expect the same out of my kids.

I didnt tell the kid to go away because i didnt want him riding on "my street" my point was just go someplace else until the crews are done.

 

imported_Imp

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Good for you telling him off. Kids are stupid and need a friendly reminder. Sounds like 'daddy' was just a control freak and was more worried that you told him to do anything than his safety....and.... sorry, guy is doing yoga or something on the floor in the cubicle next to me... werd.
 

SoulAssassin

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
While your intentions were good, you overstepped your boundaries. Told the kid what to do once, he obviously relayed the message to his father, his father overrode your instructions and the kid did was his father told him to do. MYOFB.

The only ones overstepping boundaries is people like you supporting bad parenting.

Adults are supposed to be the examples for the kids.

Letting that kid do whatever the fvk he wants is what breeds criminals.

There is a fine line between setting an example and overstepping a "boundary" and Citrix got no where near the fine line.

The father is a bad example, most likely a bad parent and the kid is already a sh!t.

So then where does the boundary lie? Should he have spanked the kid when he didn't listen? Should he have locked the kid in his basement to protect the child from himself? The father may very well be a bad parent, he may also be a very good parent making a bad decision because some stranger is telling his child what to do. The father could have seen what was going on, assessed the situation and determined that there was no real danger (let's face it, those steam rollers don't cruise at 60mph and they were "one block up") and allowed his child to continue riding his bike. The OPer very well could be overreacting to the danger. Personally, from the description, I don't think there was an imminent threat and even for the sake of argument if there was I still believe should have stood down after making the first request.

The only ones overstepping boundaries is people like you supporting bad parenting.

Dave - I support and respect you more than a lot of people on this board, please don't make it personal.
 

Flyback

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Problems where you attempt to help others and look out for their best interest have two possible outcomes: If you get involved you're told to bluntly MYOB. On the other hand if you don't get involved and someone gets hurt, people call you a cold bastard and a million other things.

Screw 'em. Why bother with the hassle of helping others.
 

Whisper

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Whether or not you overstepped your bounds, the boy's father definitely reacted in an a$$hole-ish manner.
 
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what the hell man? you should of just kept your trap shut and got on with your own business....

if the kid falls under the tarmac laying machine or the steam roller, then boo hoo its not your fault.

i mean it is especially not worth giving kids a sound piece of advice today becuase they do not have respect for elders and clearly think that in their short 10-15 year life they know all there is to know about life and that you are 100% wrong. if thats the case id rather just let them get on with it. ill be there laughing my ass off when it all goes terribly wrong.

still it doesnt sound like he was in any imminent danger, and by the sounds of things its probably no great loss if the whole family went under the steam roller.
 

child of wonder

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More than likely the kid didn't go to his father and say "Daddy, this guy is telling me I shouldn't ride my bike around construction equipment or I could get hurt. He fears for my safety."

Odds are he said something like this "DADDY!!! *sob* This mean man says I can't ride my bike in front of his driveway! He said he was going to beat me up!"

The father is a moron. You did the right thing by warning the kid. When the dad came back you should've also said "once I'm done mowing my yard I'm going to sit in a lawnchair with a cold beer so I don't miss it when your kid gets too close to the construction workers and gets smeared into the concrete. Maybe you'll notice once the news hits the TV."
 

Gunslinger08

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Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
what the hell man? you should of just kept your trap shut and got on with your own business....

if the kid falls under the tarmac laying machine or the steam roller, then boo hoo its not your fault.

i mean it is especially not worth giving kids a sound piece of advice today becuase they do not have respect for elders and clearly think that in their short 10-15 year life they know all there is to know about life and that you are 100% wrong. if thats the case id rather just let them get on with it. ill be there laughing my ass off when it all goes terribly wrong.

still it doesnt sound like he was in any imminent danger, and by the sounds of things its probably no great loss if the whole family went under the steam roller.

I'll re-iterate. Just because someone has a sh!tty parent doesn't mean you should let them do stupid sh!t without letting them damn well know what they're doing is stupid and dangerous.
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: Linflas
And there in a nutshell is the genesis of lack of respect for authority. Back when I was a kid if an adult told me to not ride my bike in that area I didn't ride my bike there. If had gone to my father he would have backed up the neighbor unless it was something totally off the wall and even then he probably would have somewhat backed the adult and had a conversation with him later with me not around.

I think they were both wrong. Well, I back Citrix completely until the kid came back. At that point I disagree from what was posted that there was a clear danger (sorry, but I tend to think the constructions folks would go ape crazy if they in any way felt a kid was in danger). He should have just ignored 'the stare down'. We are talking about a kid who 'stared down' an adult into getting him to respond inappropriately. I think there is more than enough fault to go around. The 'do you understand English' was not the appropriate way to deal with a kid. If he truely felt strongly about the issue and wasn't on a power trip he should have simply followed the kid back and warned the parents of the danger (and if they still ignored him he should let them do as they see fit).

The other parent is also an idiot, he should have came over and poliety said thanks for watching out for our future Darwin award winner but I'm comfortable with what he's doing not 'did you tell my kid what to do' etc etc etc...
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
While your intentions were good, you overstepped your boundaries. Told the kid what to do once, he obviously relayed the message to his father, his father overrode your instructions and the kid did was his father told him to do. MYOFB.

There is a fine line between setting an example and overstepping a "boundary" and Citrix got no where near the fine line.

Yep, he crossed it. Come back when you have kids.