My journey to successfully game under Linux (and overcome Microsoft's Stranglehold)

[igor_kavinski]

Do let us know if switching leads to any wonkiness or loss of data or settings or whatever. Can you switch back to previous one or switch between multiple desktops easily whenever you want?

 

[Indus]

Interesting.. I couldn't find Hop through terminal after installing it through terminal.. it was hidden.. but I'm going to add one rather than replace

 

[Zepp]

Nevermind I found it..

Switching Desktop Environments / Edition 🚀 Ultramarine Wiki

Add/remove the DE/edition with Ultramarine Hop.

wiki.ultramarine-linux.org

sudo dnf install hop

interesting, I didn't even know about Hop, but I did have to search around more than I thought I would to find the right terminal commands to install GNOME. What ended up working for me was "sudo dnf install @gnome-desktop"

I'll have to try this hop out

I have cinnamon and GNOME alongside my default Budgie. aside from the extra terminals, text editors and file managers the only wonkiness I noticed is GNOME screen timeout doesnt work at all for some reason. Monitors will remain on indefinitely despite the power setting saying screen will lock after 15min.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Are Linux GUI applications desktop environment agnostic?

Is there a chance that an application may require a specific desktop environment to launch?

If an application doesn't launch, where does one go to see the reason for the failure? In Windows, usually Event Viewer says something.

 

[Indus]

Are Linux GUI applications desktop environment agnostic?

Is there a chance that an application may require a specific desktop environment to launch?

If an application doesn't launch, where does one go to see the reason for the failure? In Windows, usually Event Viewer says something.

Never encountered that myself but I've done very limited testing with that.

You can download a GNOME utility and use it in KDE like I did that with disks to fix my mounting problem..

So you can use KDE apps from GNOME too.

 

[Indus]

interesting, I didn't even know about Hop, but I did have to search around more than I thought I would to find the right terminal commands to install GNOME. What ended up working for me was "sudo dnf install @gnome-desktop"

I'll have to try this hop out

I have cinnamon and GNOME alongside my default Budgie. aside from the extra terminals, text editors and file managers the only wonkiness I noticed is GNOME screen timeout doesnt work at all for some reason. Monitors will remain on indefinitely despite the power setting saying screen will lock after 15min.

Hop seems broken.. it says downloading Gnome but nothing happens and it seems frozen.. even my network meter sees no activity.

 

[Zepp]

Are Linux GUI applications desktop environment agnostic?

Is there a chance that an application may require a specific desktop environment to launch?

If an application doesn't launch, where does one go to see the reason for the failure? In Windows, usually Event Viewer says something.

from my experience they are DE agnostic

yep there are logs similar to windows event viewer

 

[igor_kavinski]

yep there are logs similar to windows event viewer

Is there something centralized like the Event Viewer to view all these logs or does one need to know which folder to go look in and then maybe find a log analyzing tool for the particular type of log to parse it?

 

[manly]

Thanks to this forum, Linux gaming hits an all-time high on Steam of nearly 3%.

https://www.techspot.com/news/108913-july-steam-survey-rtx-5000-surge-new-top.html

 

[Zepp]

Is there something centralized like the Event Viewer to view all these logs or does one need to know which folder to go look in and then maybe find a log analyzing tool for the particular type of log to parse it?

IIRC it's in a particular folder and yep there are various tools/apps for analyzing logs I just dont have any experience using any.

 

[WelshBloke]

I can work with GNOME.. I've tried to make myself like it.

My dealbreaker is the scaling model.. its' always either 100% or 200% and nothing inbetween while I like 125% on 2560 x 1440.

Let me know if you have fix or work around to that problem because I don't like looking at interfaces with small fonts and very small icons that're hard to click accurately.

BTW you'll be surprised how clean my desktop is in KDE.. I keep clutter down to a minimum.. and I'm using a launcher that looks like GNOME when going through apps.

Enable the fractional scaling option in display settings.

 

[WelshBloke]

Yeah at this point there's no going wrong with linux.. just do what you're happy with.

I think you might have noticed on windows or my wife's computer with LMDE I like my taskbar at the top with clock in the middle.. so there are some GNOME things I really like.. especially it's simplicity. For my wife she really likes it like that.

She has a strange problem though.. she uses a virtual keyboard that is bi lingual and switches with a key press. It's called Onboard.. comes pre-installed with Linux Mint but it won't work with Wayland.

So I can't move her to Fedora.. nor can I update her system till I'm sure that is working.. but as long as it's working.. don't fix it!

sudo apt install onboard

That works for me. Is that the one?

 

[WelshBloke]

I've never had much luck switching desktop environments on Linux. Something always breaks the original DE or the new one never quite works as well as it should if it was the only one installed.

 

[Indus]

sudo apt install onboard

That works for me. Is that the one?

Yes but it doesn't work in Fedora, Ultramarine, Bazzite, Nobara or CachyOS

even with the correct command of sudo dnf install

Even the support forums don't have an answer for it:

Can't get Onboard to work on Fedora 40

I used to have Onboard as my onscreen keyboard on Mint then when I swapped to Fedora 40 KDE, I couldn't find a working version for it or for any onscreen keyboard. It's the only thing that remains to would make experience on Fedora flawless. Any help on how to install it would be much...

forums.fedoraforum.org

 

[Indus]

I've never had much luck switching desktop environments on Linux. Something always breaks the original DE or the new one never quite works as well as it should if it was the only one installed.

That is true in base distros but I've had a much better time with the refined distros.

Also a generic install lacks something oftentimes and ends up borking just like you said