My first DWI of the year

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BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
can someone explain what the difference between DUI and DWI is?

also, can't you still be pwned by the police even if your BAC is below the legal limit?

I'm pretty sure that DWI and DUI are interchangeable terms. Some states call it a DWI, some call it a DUI.
 

MartyMcFly3

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Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: tailes151
Question for the officers here, and I'm not trying to be sarcastic or facetious:

Campus police around here have been know to give out tickets for drunk people walking home from parties (Not underage, just drunk.) What are we *supposed* to do to get home after a party? Obviously not drive/ride a bike, but if we can't even walk home without taking a chance at getting ticketed, what are we supposed to do? Suppose the party is at someone's house that I dont know and therefore probably shouldnt just decide to crash at.

That's not illegal up here..you'll get picked up (protective custody) if it appears that you aren't safe if left alone, and we'll try to find someone to release you to. Dunno what you should do up there..drink at home? :p

Same. If we find intoxicated people on the roadways and they are over 21, we'll be nice enough to give a ride to either their neighborhood or the city limits. Only time it becomes an issue is if the person gives us problems. For campus police I recommend either finding a buddy who would give you a ride home, or just not walking on the sidewalks/streets. Or like JLee said, drink at home. With campus police, it's a whole different ballgame.
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3


Same. If we find intoxicated people on the roadways and they are over 21, we'll be nice enough to give a ride to either their neighborhood or the city limits. Only time it becomes an issue is if the person gives us problems. For campus police I recommend either finding a buddy who would give you a ride home, or just not walking on the sidewalks/streets. Or like JLee said, drink at home. With campus police, it's a whole different ballgame.

But...have you ever stopped at an ATM so the guy you arrested could grab bail money?
 

MartyMcFly3

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Originally posted by: NSFW
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3


Same. If we find intoxicated people on the roadways and they are over 21, we'll be nice enough to give a ride to either their neighborhood or the city limits. Only time it becomes an issue is if the person gives us problems. For campus police I recommend either finding a buddy who would give you a ride home, or just not walking on the sidewalks/streets. Or like JLee said, drink at home. With campus police, it's a whole different ballgame.

But...have you ever stopped at an ATM so the guy you arrested could grab bail money?

Nope. Not a taxi service.
 

JohnCU

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once at clemson i was walking home from the bar and the cops stopped me and wanted to arrest me for being drunk in public. i told them i was doing the right thing by walking and they said well you could walk out in front of someone and get killed and that would traumatize someone so i said ok and begged them to let me call a friend and they did.

 

jlee

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Ah, the harassing PM's have begun, courtesy of one of our most beloved trolls. Apparently he doesn't have enough balls to post in the thread. :p

Originally posted by: NSFW
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3


Same. If we find intoxicated people on the roadways and they are over 21, we'll be nice enough to give a ride to either their neighborhood or the city limits. Only time it becomes an issue is if the person gives us problems. For campus police I recommend either finding a buddy who would give you a ride home, or just not walking on the sidewalks/streets. Or like JLee said, drink at home. With campus police, it's a whole different ballgame.

But...have you ever stopped at an ATM so the guy you arrested could grab bail money?

I actually did drive this guy to an ATM- we were waiting for the bail commissioner to show up, and a bank is across the street from the PD. I was going to stay with him until the BC showed up anyway, so it wasn't a problem.
 

erub

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Originally posted by: SampSon
I drink and drive constantly.

I'll have a drink or two (no more than 1 per hour), if I'm planning to drive home. I don't get the people though who won't even have a single one if they have to drive (typically girls)..paranoid much?
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: erub
Originally posted by: SampSon
I drink and drive constantly.

I'll have a drink or two (no more than 1 per hour), if I'm planning to drive home. I don't get the people though who won't even have a single one if they have to drive (typically girls)..paranoid much?

I'd rather have that than someone who thinks they're ok but really isn't.
 

RadiclDreamer

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Give em hell copper!

I'm very anti-drunk driving and still believe that the laws in this country are far too lax on the subject.
1st offense should be 1 year in jail-5 years loss of license, unless they cause a fatal accident...then life in prison.
2nd offense should be 5 years in prison-lifetime loss of license, unless they cause a fatal accident...then life in prison.
3rd offense should be 20 years in prison...unless they cause a fatal accident...then life in prison.

i can agree with those penalties. IF they find a better way to do the test/bac, limits and what is a DUI.

it hink MADD has done far more damage to peoples lives then a few drunks on the road. they have pushed teh .08 (far to low and they are trying to get it even lower!) and stupid shit like having the keys on you while near/in the car is DUI (even if you are not the driver).

right now its not bad for the 1st one. you lose it for 6 months, have 2-5k fines, 1-2k lawyer fee, classees (impact panel etc), breath machine in car (+monthly fee for it) and some CS hours

the 2nd they nail you. but then again i feel after the 2nd DUI you shouldnt get to drive ever again.

Sorry but driving at all after drinking is stupid. Even if its .02. Dont do it period.
 

FDF12389

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Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Give em hell copper!

I'm very anti-drunk driving and still believe that the laws in this country are far too lax on the subject.
1st offense should be 1 year in jail-5 years loss of license, unless they cause a fatal accident...then life in prison.
2nd offense should be 5 years in prison-lifetime loss of license, unless they cause a fatal accident...then life in prison.
3rd offense should be 20 years in prison...unless they cause a fatal accident...then life in prison.

i can agree with those penalties. IF they find a better way to do the test/bac, limits and what is a DUI.

it hink MADD has done far more damage to peoples lives then a few drunks on the road. they have pushed teh .08 (far to low and they are trying to get it even lower!) and stupid shit like having the keys on you while near/in the car is DUI (even if you are not the driver).

right now its not bad for the 1st one. you lose it for 6 months, have 2-5k fines, 1-2k lawyer fee, classees (impact panel etc), breath machine in car (+monthly fee for it) and some CS hours

the 2nd they nail you. but then again i feel after the 2nd DUI you shouldnt get to drive ever again.

Sorry but driving at all after drinking is stupid. Even if its .02. Dont do it period.

Should i also not drive if my crotch itches? I might get distracted if i need to scratch my junk. We should also get away with window controls, who the hell drives with their window down, all that wind distracting you, you could kill someone.
 

Joemonkey

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Originally posted by: FDF12389
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Give em hell copper!

I'm very anti-drunk driving and still believe that the laws in this country are far too lax on the subject.
1st offense should be 1 year in jail-5 years loss of license, unless they cause a fatal accident...then life in prison.
2nd offense should be 5 years in prison-lifetime loss of license, unless they cause a fatal accident...then life in prison.
3rd offense should be 20 years in prison...unless they cause a fatal accident...then life in prison.

i can agree with those penalties. IF they find a better way to do the test/bac, limits and what is a DUI.

it hink MADD has done far more damage to peoples lives then a few drunks on the road. they have pushed teh .08 (far to low and they are trying to get it even lower!) and stupid shit like having the keys on you while near/in the car is DUI (even if you are not the driver).

right now its not bad for the 1st one. you lose it for 6 months, have 2-5k fines, 1-2k lawyer fee, classees (impact panel etc), breath machine in car (+monthly fee for it) and some CS hours

the 2nd they nail you. but then again i feel after the 2nd DUI you shouldnt get to drive ever again.

Sorry but driving at all after drinking is stupid. Even if its .02. Dont do it period.

Should i also not drive if my crotch itches? I might get distracted if i need to scratch my junk. We should also get away with window controls, who the hell drives with their window down, all that wind distracting you, you could kill someone.

also you shouldn't drive after eating a big meal! tryptophan, blood sugar changes, picking your teeth, all that stuff could cause you to kill someone!
 

eplebnista

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Dec 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: FDF12389
Should i also not drive if my crotch itches? I might get distracted if i need to scratch my junk. We should also get away with window controls, who the hell drives with their window down, all that wind distracting you, you could kill someone.

I ran my first car off the road and into a narrow stand of small trees at about 10mph when I was fighting with a moth that kept flying around my face when I was 16(it was about 7am and I was trying to get to school). :eek: To top it off the car sheared off one of the trees(trunk was 2-3 inches thick) and managed to wedge itself under the front fender(kind of like a fish being caught on a hook) so that the car was stuck. I had to borrow a saw and cut the trunk off close to the ground so that the car could be freed.
 

RadiclDreamer

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Originally posted by: FDF12389
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Give em hell copper!

I'm very anti-drunk driving and still believe that the laws in this country are far too lax on the subject.
1st offense should be 1 year in jail-5 years loss of license, unless they cause a fatal accident...then life in prison.
2nd offense should be 5 years in prison-lifetime loss of license, unless they cause a fatal accident...then life in prison.
3rd offense should be 20 years in prison...unless they cause a fatal accident...then life in prison.

i can agree with those penalties. IF they find a better way to do the test/bac, limits and what is a DUI.

it hink MADD has done far more damage to peoples lives then a few drunks on the road. they have pushed teh .08 (far to low and they are trying to get it even lower!) and stupid shit like having the keys on you while near/in the car is DUI (even if you are not the driver).

right now its not bad for the 1st one. you lose it for 6 months, have 2-5k fines, 1-2k lawyer fee, classees (impact panel etc), breath machine in car (+monthly fee for it) and some CS hours

the 2nd they nail you. but then again i feel after the 2nd DUI you shouldnt get to drive ever again.

Sorry but driving at all after drinking is stupid. Even if its .02. Dont do it period.

Should i also not drive if my crotch itches? I might get distracted if i need to scratch my junk. We should also get away with window controls, who the hell drives with their window down, all that wind distracting you, you could kill someone.

Not even close to being the same thing...
 
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Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
can someone explain what the difference between DUI and DWI is?

also, can't you still be pwned by the police even if your BAC is below the legal limit?

I'm pretty sure that DWI and DUI are interchangeable terms. Some states call it a DWI, some call it a DUI.

I always thought DWI is over the limit of .08 while DUI is under .08 but over say, .04 and you were driving in a way that was not 'normal'.
 

AnonymouseUser

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jlee

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
can someone explain what the difference between DUI and DWI is?

also, can't you still be pwned by the police even if your BAC is below the legal limit?

I'm pretty sure that DWI and DUI are interchangeable terms. Some states call it a DWI, some call it a DUI.

I always thought DWI is over the limit of .08 while DUI is under .08 but over say, .04 and you were driving in a way that was not 'normal'.

Nope. They're the same thing.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
can someone explain what the difference between DUI and DWI is?

also, can't you still be pwned by the police even if your BAC is below the legal limit?

I'm pretty sure that DWI and DUI are interchangeable terms. Some states call it a DWI, some call it a DUI.

I always thought DWI is over the limit of .08 while DUI is under .08 but over say, .04 and you were driving in a way that was not 'normal'.

Nope. They're the same thing.

In most states, I agree. Different states, different terms, but there are different terms for driving in varying states of intoxication also. Here in Kahleeforneeya, there's also "Wet and reckless," which indicates that the person has been drinking, but perhaps is not quite to the .08 BAC, or the courts accept is as an alternate to DUI. However, "regular" people rarely get that, it's reserved for "important" people like judges who get busted for DUI and other folks who are too "special" to be charged with DUI. (and are usually far over .08)

"California DUI - Wet and Reckless Reduced Charge
Wet Reckless (enacted January 1982).

Plea Bargin Down from a DUI charge to a 'Wet Reckless' charge

This is a charge to the lesser included offense of violation of 23103. The term wet reckless does not actual appear anywhere in the statutes.

Instead, a 23103 conviction is specially permitted where (1) the defendant pleads guilty to a California DUI violation of 23103, in satisfaction of or as a substitute for, an original charge of non-injury drunk driving 23152, (2) the prosecutor states for the record a factual basis, including facts disclosing whether or not alcohol or drugs were consumed, and (3) the court advises the defendant of the drunk driving sentence enhancement consequences of the conviction (23103.5).

Wet Reckless 23103.5
1. Counts as a prior conviction is convicted again within 10 years.
2. Insurance companies treat it as a California DUI.

A "dry" reckless is also an occasional disposition in a DUI. Where "dry" reckless is the disposition, there need not (and must not) be compliance with 23103.5. That's because the separate offense of reckless driving could have been charged in the first place. Therefore it's not a satisfaction or substitution (23103.5) for a drunk driving charge.

A "dry" reckless conviction results where a charge of violation of 23103 is simply added to the complaint as an offense that could have been charged originally, the defendant pleads guilty to it, and the DUI charge is dismissed.

To be certain that the conviction will not become a DUI sentence enhancement in the future, be sure to state that the conviction is understood by all to be "not in accordance with 23103.5". And be sure the clerk understands that Disposition Code "R" does not go on the abstract sent to the DMV.

WET RECKLESS PENALTIES

Approximately 17 years ago, the legislature created a new statute known as "wet reckless" - reckless driving that is related to alcohol (Vehicle Code Section 23103.5). It is a bazaar fiction that there is no requirement that there is any reckless driving. The legislature's purpose was to encourage plea bargains in close cases - giving defendants a reason to plead guilty and yet giving to government a way to get convictions. The following are the approximate usual penalties imposed for cases reduced from a DUI to a "wet reckless" (as of March 1999):

$600 - 1,200.00 in fines;
three years of "informal probation"

It is important to remember that a person who receives this reduction is still viewed as having suffered a "prior" DUI conviction should they receive another DUI arrest in California the next ten years. This means you are treated the same by the DA and the judge as if you had pled to a DUI instead of the wet reckless. DMV and insurance companies treat the charges the same also (Two points against your license and increased insurance premiums)."

 

jlee

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Yep- but the terms DWI/DUI/OWI/OUI are essentially interchangeable. :)

That's interesting, though- didn't know Cali had a 'sub-DUI' offense..