My dad thinks it's ridiculous to own a gun...

[skyking]

Fine, tell me why it ISN'T a good idea to have one in your glove box?

1) you are accosted in a parking lot going to your car. did it help you there?
2) car is stolen. Thank you for helping arm the crooks. no, really.
3) car is not stolen, just broken into. see above.
4) something happens on the road. you decide to arm yourself rather than:
A) call the police
B)drive defensively and get out of there
Welcome to jail!

Cars are the worst possible place to "store" a gun. Cars are stolen or broken into all the time, even with sophisticated alarms.
If you feel the need to carry, carry. At least then you can defend your gun from the crooks.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: PAB

Originally posted by: goku
we were talking about roadrage a week ago and he happened to mention that people were so crazy that they keep guns in their glove compartment and I was like .

Do you think it's unreasonable to keep a pistol in your glove compartment? I've always considering owning a few guns of my own but it seems like my dad would look down upon that...

There's a 357 in my glovebox in case someone does something stupid. I find it's pretty good peace of mind.

Both PAB and goku think that it's a good idea to have a gun in their glovebox. I have never heard of a more compelling argument toward the stupidity of a viewpoint.

/thread.

Fine, tell me why it ISN'T a good idea to have one in your glove box?

One of the biggest problems is that the gun is accessible to the passengers.

What kind of situations would you need access to a firearm? A carjacking relies on surprise, to prevent the victim from having time to react and/or drive away. In that situation it may be doubtful that you will be able to reach over, open the box, and retrieve and ready the weapon since the first indication you would have is seeing the offender pull out his gun. If it is to be a forseeable situation then it lends itself to being used in a volatile or emotional one. The roadrage context that your dad was talking about is a good example. If a person is in a highly enraged state, then having a gun in their box is obviously a bad situation. On the otherhand, if you are confronted with a potentially violent person, the best thing to do is to try and avoid the confrontation. You can stay in your car or you can try to drive away. Making the decision to go over and retrieve a firearm from your glove box drastically escalates the situation. It's different then say a home invasion or being approached on the street where you are placed in a very vulnerable situation. Not to mention the fact that it's also a legal conundrum. Concealed carry does not always cover keeping a gun in your box. Like in Ohio I believe, your glove box must have a lock on it for a CCW to be able to transport a firearm in it. Other states say that you can't keep it loaded if it's in the box. Then you also have to be aware of the local town's laws as well since they supercede state.

Concealed carry or home defense in my mind are different situations. But the inherent risks versus the scenarios where you would need access to a gun in your glove box (as opposed to say your trunk) in my mind make keeping a gun in your glove box a poor choice.

 

[Kaieye]

The odds are if you have purchase a gun , it would probably be used on someone you know instead of a stranger or assailant.

 

[rise]

me thinks OP is a little boy trying to be all grown up.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Your an idiot

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[BoberFett]

Keeping it in the glovebox is pretty stupid. In the event that you'd need it, would you be able to lean over and grab it? If you really feel the need to carry, get your CCW and have it on your person.

In fact, in a lot of places I believe having a gun in your car is considered having a concealed weapon, and if you aren't licensed you are breaking the law.

 

[puffff]

Originally posted by: skyking

Fine, tell me why it ISN'T a good idea to have one in your glove box?

1) you are accosted in a parking lot going to your car. did it help you there?
2) car is stolen. Thank you for helping arm the crooks. no, really.
3) car is not stolen, just broken into. see above.
4) something happens on the road. you decide to arm yourself rather than:
A) call the police
B)drive defensively and get out of there
Welcome to jail!

Cars are the worst possible place to "store" a gun. Cars are stolen or broken into all the time, even with sophisticated alarms.
If you feel the need to carry, carry. At least then you can defend your gun from the crooks.

couldn't have put it better myself :thumbsup:

 

[BigJ]

I like potato chips.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Your an idiot

You're the idiot here...

 

[bigdog1218]

Is there any actual shred of evidence that shows owning a gun actually makes you safer? Isn't it the exact opposite, like someone mentioned above, that the majority of you "tough" guys will most likely end up shooting the wrong person. I own 3 guns from when I used to hunt but I they don't give me piece of mind, like some paranoid ready to pee my pants child, just in case someone breaks into my house.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: skyking

Fine, tell me why it ISN'T a good idea to have one in your glove box?

1) you are accosted in a parking lot going to your car. did it help you there?
2) car is stolen. Thank you for helping arm the crooks. no, really.
3) car is not stolen, just broken into. see above.
4) something happens on the road. you decide to arm yourself rather than:
A) call the police
B)drive defensively and get out of there
Welcome to jail!

Cars are the worst possible place to "store" a gun. Cars are stolen or broken into all the time, even with sophisticated alarms.
If you feel the need to carry, carry. At least then you can defend your gun from the crooks.

Well, only real reason I'd keep it in the glove box is because it wouldn't be very comfortable to have it in your pocket..

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Keeping it in the glovebox is pretty stupid. In the event that you'd need it, would you be able to lean over and grab it? If you really feel the need to carry, get your CCW and have it on your person.

In fact, in a lot of places I believe having a gun in your car is considered having a concealed weapon, and if you aren't licensed you are breaking the law.

Dead on. In most states having a weapon out of sight in a car is considered a concealed weapon, so it's stupid to have a gun in a glove compartment box because unless you have a concealed weapon licenses you're committing a felony.

 

[Leros]

After having been jumped and nearly escaping, my thoughts towarding owning a gun have changed. Something about nearly having the crap beaten out of you makes you think slightly differently. I still don't own a gun, I'm just paranoid to go outside after dark now.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: bigdog1218
Is there any actual shred of evidence that shows owning a gun actually makes you safer? Isn't it the exact opposite, like someone mentioned above, that the majority of you "tough" guys will most likely end up shooting the wrong person. I own 3 guns from when I used to hunt but I they don't give me piece of mind, like some paranoid ready to pee my pants child, just in case someone breaks into my house.

Owning a gun does not increase the chances of an ordinary person (to use an example posted a little while ago) turning into a dumbass that shows off his gun's safety by pulling the trigger with the gun in his mouth. It simply that a dumbass without guns is more likely to show off his ability to swallow pocket knives or juggle chainsaws instead.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
If you're responsible with firearms, keeping a gun in your glove compartment can do nothing but benefit.

Unless it accidentally goes off? Some people are unlucky like that

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: skyking

Fine, tell me why it ISN'T a good idea to have one in your glove box?

1) you are accosted in a parking lot going to your car. did it help you there?
2) car is stolen. Thank you for helping arm the crooks. no, really.
3) car is not stolen, just broken into. see above.
4) something happens on the road. you decide to arm yourself rather than:
A) call the police
B)drive defensively and get out of there
Welcome to jail!

Cars are the worst possible place to "store" a gun. Cars are stolen or broken into all the time, even with sophisticated alarms.
If you feel the need to carry, carry. At least then you can defend your gun from the crooks.

Well, only real reason I'd keep it in the glove box is because it wouldn't be very comfortable to have it in your pocket..

Jeez, you really can't be this stupid. At what point do you reach the conclusion that carrying a loaded pistol in your pocket is a good idea?

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Raduque
Guns in cars - it's all about penetration. You need something that you can hide on/near your seating position, that way, when the jacker sticks a 9mm in your face, you look suprised while you're shooting him through the door.

Somehow everything on ATOT is about penetration...

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Your an idiot

The irony here is delicious.

 

[Kirby]

What about in the compartment in the door? It's a lot more accessible if needed, though I'm not sure if that qualifies as concealed...

 

[Eeezee]

Your dad was talking about nutjobs who keep the gun in the glove box for the sake of shooting at other people. That would qualify as INSANE. What's wrong with carrying the gun on you? What's better about carrying the gun in the glove box compared to carrying it on your person?

 

[latino666]

I use to keep mine in the arm rest. It saved my ass a few times just showing it to the people that tried something.

If I moved back to MI I would get another one. Not much in WY to worry about

 

[BurnItDwn]

There is nothing wrong with owning a gun.


That being said, I know at least in Illinois, It's illegal to keep a gun in your glove box. While transporting a gun it needs to be in a locked box that's out of reach. Meaning in a box in the trunk ...

 

[LtPage1]

Well, unless you're a psycopathic criminal, I think it's your right to keep one there- but yes, I think it's unreasonable and crazy. No way in hell I'll ever own a gun, much less keep one in my car.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
There is nothing wrong with owning a gun.


That being said, I know at least in Illinois, It's illegal to keep a gun in your glove box. While transporting a gun it needs to be in a locked box that's out of reach. Meaning in a box in the trunk ...

word, but why go get one?

I've lived 20 years of my life without needing a gun. My parents have been living for 50+ years without a gun. I think the only time we even got close to needing one was when I got my ass kicked in front of my parents by some newbass thugs.

But seriously, unless you live in some ghetto, I don't see why you need a gun. Hell, if I lived in Oakland/Berkeley for the rest of my life, I don't think I would need a gun

 

[Oxaqata]

The only people who even need guns here are farmers, even the police rarely use them.