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My Brother is so addicted to WoW, we get into fights

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Originally posted by: Alienwho
Originally posted by: Xyclone
It's too late now, his insecure attachment should have been avoided when he was a toddler. It is the fault of your parents, not you. The only thing to do now is to seek professional help or to just lay some SERIOUS discipline down on him, and I don't mean hitting/headlocks/other weird stuff. By the looks of it, I don't think he's going to college, so I'm not sure what you can do about the schoolwork thing.
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Yeah, no college for him, not unless he has some miraculous change of heart in the next year or two. To be honest he says he wants to join the military, which is fine by us. I'm going to talk to my parents about seriously sending him to a military school or some kind of boot camp or something.
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It's sad that kids today have so much more opportunity for higher eduction than their parents had, yet they waste it away on computer games.
 
For starters, sell the computer and any game systems. Make sure he does NOT have ANY access to that type of stuff, period, in the house. Also consider sending him to another psychiatrist, since the current one sounds completely useless. Consider military school.
 
Your family is messed up. Why is your mom making you parent your brother? Where the hell is his father? That's who should be taking away his Xbox and computer, not you. As for the violence... well, your account doesn't seem very impartial -- it could be that you've been beating him up (you sure don't seem to have any reservations about it, aside from "I felt bad, but I won't apologize first"). Given that none of you seem to be able to handle him, maybe he should go live with an aunt and uncle or something like that for a few months.
 
Originally posted by: hjo3
Your family is messed up. Why is your mom making you parent your brother? Where the hell is his father? That's who should be taking away his Xbox and computer, not you. As for the violence... well, your account doesn't seem very impartial -- it could be that you've been beating him up (you sure don't seem to have any reservations about it, aside from "I felt bad, but I won't apologize first"). Given that none of you seem to be able to handle him, maybe he should go live with an aunt and uncle or something like that for a few months.
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My dad's on a business trip, and my mom gets sick of my brother doing nothing for 10 days at a time.

She is the one doing the punishing, but when he flips out and starts trashing the house, she can't subdue him, I just happen to be around. What am I supposed to do, stand there and watch? Give me a break.
 
When was the last time you took the time to listen to him? It sounds like he feels no one listens to him and this is his way of lashing out at everyone surrounding him. Just take some time and be the big brother to him. Sit down with him this weekend and hell, just get out of the house. Go see a movie. Ask him how his week has been. Get to know your brother. It just seems to me that he see's how much of a success his older brothers and sisters are and he doesn't have the confidence that he'll be able to match it.

You give your brother the confidence that he can do something, he'll have the confidence to change.
 
marines/military future?

Anyway personally I'd get a psychologist not a psychiatrist. just my opinion on them. The psychiatrist simply uses drugs and it seems moreso a personality disorder that must be treated by talking and action rather than simply any drug. imo drugs don't "fix" a personality though it's not like I'm not a believer in depression.

It also sounds like he has no friends which may induce this behavior rather than the computer inducing his anti-socialness. he may be socially-inept but that could be the primary cause rather than the secondary.
 
To be honest the kid would make a great suicide general someday. I've watched him play Gears of War before, and the way he bosses around and commands all the 20-somethings he's playing with is pretty impressive.
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There's your in. How can you foster that and help him find self-worth? Have you explained to him how impressive that is?

See if you can find some sort of real-life Ender's Game scenario to put him into?
 
Maybe you should start by not referring to your brother as 'lower than a dog' and making fun his 'scrawny arms' and his height? yet you dont' fail to mention how big you are and how much you work out, in a thread that is supposed to be about your brother. It's obvious that he has problems that he isn't communicating. You aren't helping by ordering him around and putting him down in a forum. Try talking to him first on equal terms and not as an authoritative older brother. Maybe you'll need some professional help.
 
OP... from what you are saying your brother is mentally UNBALANCED.

He needs help. He may not have an actual medical condition... he might just be angry with his lot in life.

Being 15, a scrawny 5'7", and probably not smart or good looking can be horrible in HS. Some people in this situation don't care and are perfectly happy, some people care a little, some care a lot, and a small percentage can't handle it.

If your brother is one of those guys who can't handle it, this would explain his personality traits and recent behavior, especially his video game addiction (escape).

Also, in any case... beating him up and putting him in headlocks is not helping at all.
 

well I only read the first 2 paragraphs but I'm gonnan suggest that you invest a good $200 and hook him up with a hooker and a couple of condoms 🙂

after that, he'll have a new passion
 
Originally posted by: Rumpltzer
I doesn't sound like online gaming is your brother's problem. I sounds like he's going to be a pain in the ass no matter what it's about.

Have your parents tried being his parents? Other options would be to kill him, send him to boot camp, hand him over to a cult, find him a new shrink, etc.
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I agree. It isn't the gaming that is the source of the problem. Instead of takling his affinity for electronic entertainment you should try to shift his personality, though at this stage of development it would be difficult. Most likely, he won't change for a few years.

Something during his maturation steered him in this direct, but it will most likely be a while before he actually changes.
 
Originally posted by: Alienwho
Of course he's depressed. He spends every moment he can on the computer, in the dark. How could that possibly NOT make you depressed? Like I said, it's not like that's all he has to do. My dad bought him a motorcycle, in the summertime my family goes wakeboarding 5 times a week, in the winter we all ski/snowboard...of course he doesn't want to come. And if we force him, it makes the experience miserable for everyone.
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Maybe you need to stop trying to force him to be like the rest of you. I have five brothers and none of us is alike in everything. Half of us play sports, some of us would rather read a book, some of us would rather play computer games (yes, even WoW, though I'll never understand the attraction of it). Try doing something with him that he likes to do. It could be that he's acting like this to get attention or to find somewhere he fits in because your entire family has turned against him because he's a little different. I don't see anything changing until you and your family accept him for who he is. Swallow your ego and do whatever it takes to make it right or you will regret it forever.
 
Originally posted by: Xyclone
Originally posted by: Alienwho
Originally posted by: Xyclone
It's too late now, his insecure attachment should have been avoided when he was a toddler. It is the fault of your parents, not you. The only thing to do now is to seek professional help or to just lay some SERIOUS discipline down on him, and I don't mean hitting/headlocks/other weird stuff. By the looks of it, I don't think he's going to college, so I'm not sure what you can do about the schoolwork thing.
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Yeah, no college for him, not unless he has some miraculous change of heart in the next year or two. To be honest he says he wants to join the military, which is fine by us. I'm going to talk to my parents about seriously sending him to a military school or some kind of boot camp or something.
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It's sad that kids today have so much more opportunity for higher eduction than their parents had, yet they waste it away on computer games.
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Some professional help doesn't seem as though it could hurt. Your mother may indeed be a wonderful person, but sometimes being a wonderful person isn't always enough to effectively interact with, and appropriately discipline, a child.
 
You're not helping. Sounds like he acts out a ton, and then you beat him up, and repeat. He's too stupid to understand where you're coming from- from his perspective, you're just a big muscly jerk who comes in and hurts him.

There need to be clearly defined, way strict limits imposed, and enforced to the letter. After a while (read: a really long, almost unbearable time for everyone), he'll improve. Behavior modification at its most simple. He does his homework, he gets certain grades, he does so much exercise, etc.
When he starts to respond, he gets reinforcement- maybe a half hour of computer time per day, etc. Definitely not a lot more than that. The instant he acts up, tries to go over his limit, etc.- back to the restrictions, until he improves again.

to be honest, I'd keep this kid away from the military. Sounds like he's screwed up enough as it is- god knows what a healthy dose of intense brainwashing and desensitization to killing would produce.
 
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