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My Brother is so addicted to WoW, we get into fights

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Originally posted by: Xyclone
Originally posted by: Alienwho
Originally posted by: Xyclone
It's too late now, his insecure attachment should have been avoided when he was a toddler. It is the fault of your parents, not you. The only thing to do now is to seek professional help or to just lay some SERIOUS discipline down on him, and I don't mean hitting/headlocks/other weird stuff. By the looks of it, I don't think he's going to college, so I'm not sure what you can do about the schoolwork thing.
Yeah, no college for him, not unless he has some miraculous change of heart in the next year or two. To be honest he says he wants to join the military, which is fine by us. I'm going to talk to my parents about seriously sending him to a military school or some kind of boot camp or something.

It's sad that kids today have so much more opportunity for higher eduction than their parents had, yet they waste it away on computer games.

I would disagree with the opportunities presented to everyone.

However, im not going to thread hijack.

OP: Your brother needs psychological therapy, and not from the crackpot hes going to.

Getting him to a good therapist should help, but its not going to be night and day, it takes a long time.
 
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Xyclone
Originally posted by: Alienwho
Originally posted by: Xyclone
It's too late now, his insecure attachment should have been avoided when he was a toddler. It is the fault of your parents, not you. The only thing to do now is to seek professional help or to just lay some SERIOUS discipline down on him, and I don't mean hitting/headlocks/other weird stuff. By the looks of it, I don't think he's going to college, so I'm not sure what you can do about the schoolwork thing.
Yeah, no college for him, not unless he has some miraculous change of heart in the next year or two. To be honest he says he wants to join the military, which is fine by us. I'm going to talk to my parents about seriously sending him to a military school or some kind of boot camp or something.

It's sad that kids today have so much more opportunity for higher eduction than their parents had, yet they waste it away on computer games.

I would disagree with the opportunities presented to everyone.

However, im not going to thread hijack.

OP: Your brother needs psychological therapy, and not from the crackpot hes going to.

Getting him to a good therapist should help, but its not going to be night and day, it takes a long time.

IThe opportunity is presented to anyone that wants it.
 
Originally posted by: Kwaipie
You respond to verbal abuse and destruction of property with physical harm to a family member? Maybe you should also get counseling.

i'll take all the verbal abuse in the world.

but if they lay a finger on my computer, their ass is grass.

 
Not to be a dick, and this is OT but then again....the forum is OT so...6'2 and 185 is not anything to brag about.
 
pay for the wow account, he'll play it through and realize how boring and dumb mmorpg's are.

problem solved 😛
 
Originally posted by: Alienwho
Let me start off by saying, that I am 23 years old. My brother is 15. My brother is completely devoid of humanesque tendencies, I swear he is lower than a dog. He has no sense of loyalty, passion, love, gratitude, justice, judgement, etc. He cares for no one and no thing. He absolutely refuses to do any kind of schoolwork.

Since I live relatively close to my parents, home, I visit a few times a week for dinner and to chat. I stopped by this afternoon to grab a package and talk with my mom. She told me my brother has been sneaking downstairs to play the computer at 2am, so she asked me to hide the monitor and stuff. I told her I could just password the computer and call it good.

About 10 minutes later, my brother comes home from school. My mom tells him he needs to find something to do today, such as homework, hanging out with friends, reading a book, riding his bike, whatever and that his computer time is over. He ignores her and goes directly to the computer. Finding it was password protected, he tries some things. I tell him it's useless and he'll never get it, so he might as well go find something else to do.

At this point he starts to slam doors and yell. My mom is extremely patient with him and tells him nicely that it's a beautiful day and he needs to do something outside. She also reminds him their "deal" where he has to do so much homework/chores and he could have so much computer time. He obviously failed at his end of the bargain.

My mom then tells him to go outside and get out some of his energy. He yells "I'm going to get out some energy by breaking stuff". At this point he is in the nice living room that is full of all kinds of statues and figurines. I go to confront him and tell him to relax and get over it, because it's not changing. At this point he gets in my face and puts his wiry arms up like he's going to hit me.

Now, I am 6'2", 185 pounds, in quite good shape (I lift 3 times a week and play numerous sports). My brother is about 5'7" and extremely scrawny and skinny (he doesn't do ANYTHING physical). So needless to say, when he got in my face I couldn't really help but chuckle to myself. Especially because this has happened before:

*Side Story* Now, what my brother lacks in brains and strength, he makes up by his complete stupidity, arrogance, bad judgement, and pure passionate hatred. A few months ago my mom grounded him from the xbox and asked me to take it away. As I was taking it away he freaked out, punched out some windows and kicked a few holes in the walls. As I walked back inside and realized what was going on, I went in his room and noticed all the destruction. I was still calm at this point though. My mom was trying to calm my brother down, and at this point he started to curse my mom into oblivion. Well this sent me over the edge, and I proceeded to nearly choke my brother unconscious, followed by restraining him on the ground for about 10 minutes while he boiled and freaked out. Once he calmed down, I cleaned up all the broken glass, and that was the end of that. I felt bad about it mere hours afterwards, and I wanted to apologize, but I would only apologize if he apologized first, because it was all his mess afterward. He never felt any remorse.

Back to today. He gets in my face and I instinctively twirl him around and get him into a headlock. And get him down on the ground. He fights with everything he's got, but it's totally useless, he's not moving anywhere. I almost choke him dead once again, he freaks continues to freak out. I tell him to relax and I'll let him go. He shows no signs of calming down. Meanwhile my mom is talking of calling the police. I tell her to do it, call the police, get this kid out of here. She calls 911 and gets a message saying "this call will not go through". Heh, great. She gives up on that and I restrain my brother for another few minutes.

Eventually I feel his body tension go down a bit. I slowly let him go. He then goes for his shoes, puts them on, and stomps his way out of the house. He then hops on his bike, being sure to cause as much damage to our cars/garage stuff on the way out. He rides off and I tell him to do us all a favor and get hit by a car.

So that's my story. I don't know what to do. My mom is the most kind and patient woman in the world and she's trying her hardest. My dad is great, but he gets so frustrated with him that he doesn't know what to do. I'm the only one who gets into physical confrontations with him.

Why is he so incredibly addicted to these games? We try to get him to do stuff with us, motorcycles, wakeboarding, boating, sports, etc. But he just refuses and would rather sit in the office gaming. If you don't force him to eat, he never would. He would sit and play games for 5 days until his body just shut down and died. The sad thing is, he doesn't even have a WoW account, he just keeps playing the 5 day trial or whatever it is, over and over again. And the computer he plays on is so slow and old, it's like a slideshow. I'm not joking, I'm talking 1 frame per 2 seconds here. It's unbelievable.

Advice me.

Prison time. Consider it. You and your brother sound like you could stand some time to think about the fact that monkeys have more intuition than either of you.

 
Originally posted by: Alienwho
Originally posted by: Xyclone
It's too late now, his insecure attachment should have been avoided when he was a toddler. It is the fault of your parents, not you. The only thing to do now is to seek professional help or to just lay some SERIOUS discipline down on him, and I don't mean hitting/headlocks/other weird stuff. By the looks of it, I don't think he's going to college, so I'm not sure what you can do about the schoolwork thing.
Yeah, no college for him, not unless he has some miraculous change of heart in the next year or two. To be honest he says he wants to join the military, which is fine by us. I'm going to talk to my parents about seriously sending him to a military school or some kind of boot camp or something.

He *says* he wants to join the military? With a crappy physique, bad discipline, and general defiance of authority? He'll have a nice experience in boot camp...
 
i suggest a boot camp. a bit extreme but it will teach him to respect your parents and teach him that there are consequences for his actions. it is weird but i always fine that the youngest sibilings are usually the most troubled.
 
I suggest filing a petition against him so that he GETS psychiatric help, even if it's in a psychiatric ward which is what it sounds like he needs.
 
Originally posted by: ForumMaster
i suggest a boot camp. a bit extreme but it will teach him to respect your parents and teach him that there are consequences for his actions. it is weird but i always fine that the youngest sibilings are usually the most troubled.

Actually I have heard this somewhere before and it really does seem this way.
 
Sounds like you and a lot of people are dismissing his real issues by treating him like a spoiled/addict/prick. Like others said, ditch the 'tard of a psychiatrist he's going to now and get some real help. None of this sounds like a spoiled punk, more like serious behaviour/psychological problems that need to be worked out.
 
Originally posted by: Imp
Sounds like you and a lot of people are dismissing his real issues by treating him like a spoiled/addict/prick. Like others said, ditch the 'tard of a psychiatrist he's going to now and get some real help. None of this sounds like a spoiled punk, more like serious behaviour/psychological problems that need to be worked out.

:thumbsup:

Do this, stat.
 
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
I suggest filing a petition against him so that he GETS psychiatric help, even if it's in a psychiatric ward which is what it sounds like he needs.

This kid, as it's been described to this point, is FAR from needing inpatient or residential psychiatric care, trust me.

Besides, the OP mentioned that he's been going to a psychiatrist for years, so it's not that he's resistant to the idea...it just seems as though the psychiatrist isn't being particularly effective with this specific client. Beyond that, three years, IMO, is too long for anyone to be seeing a therapist if no real gains have been recognized.
 
Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
To be honest the kid would make a great suicide general someday. I've watched him play Gears of War before, and the way he bosses around and commands all the 20-somethings he's playing with is pretty impressive.

There's your in. How can you foster that and help him find self-worth? Have you explained to him how impressive that is?

See if you can find some sort of real-life Ender's Game scenario to put him into?



Originally posted by: kaymin
Maybe you should start by not referring to your brother as 'lower than a dog' and making fun his 'scrawny arms' and his height? yet you dont' fail to mention how big you are and how much you work out, in a thread that is supposed to be about your brother. It's obvious that he has problems that he isn't communicating. You aren't helping by ordering him around and putting him down in a forum. Try talking to him first on equal terms and not as an authoritative older brother. Maybe you'll need some professional help.

quoted for emphasis
 
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