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My Brother is so addicted to WoW, we get into fights

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Originally posted by: DaWhim
cliffs?
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- OP's brother is addicted to the computer (WoW in particular)
- Brother freaks out and breaks stuff, OP puts brother in headlock
- OP and his parents are unsure of how to handle situation

 
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Refer to the "is it ok to spank your child" thread. Since he's 15, you need to create a "Is 15 too late to start spanking" thread.
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he might be to old for a spanking but a good ass whooping wouldn't hurt hell if i was to ever act like that when i was his age with my parents i would get it from my mom and my dad when he got home from work. Hell i remember one time my brother and i were fighting in the house and im 6'3 my brother is 6'2 and we were shaking the whole house when we would throw each other on the floor so my mom got a big pitcher of hot water threw it on us yeah we stopped real quick then she made us clean up the mess. i say take away the computer, the xbox every game he has. if he starts to destroy stuff again call the cops let them know what hes doing and that you can control him let him spend a couple hours in jail and if he starts to resist arrest with the cops hope the cops use a tazer gun on him he will stop resisting.
 
If he hasn't been making any progress with this Psychologist then it's probably time to look for another one.

My brother was a worthless little asshole, but in his case my mom had to accept a large part of the blame because she cushioned him and enabled him so he didn't have to mature. She would get mad and make big one-time changes like taking away all his video games but he would always get them back without learning anything or experiencing any real consequence. He was the baby of the family and she just wasn't ready to let him mature at a normal pace.
He finally grew up a little after high school and I get along with him really well now.
 
I definitely wouldn't call the police. You are the one dishing out the abuse and even you state it in extreme terms like "almost choke him dead." What he tells the police as the person on the receiving end of something that extreme may be enough to get him taken away by family services or something.
 
Wow good job except for the "hope you get hit by a car" part.

Stick up for your mom; it's got to be hard for her when he isn't even thankful for what she has done for him all his life.

Psychiatrists can be good and bad, I know people who have gotten more jacked up because the psychiatrist believes everything the patient says and do not know the full picture.

Good luck.


EDIT: oh and The sad thing is, he doesn't even have a WoW account, he just keeps playing the 5 day trial or whatever it is, over and over again. That just blows my mind.
 
Needs More Bootcamp.

Also, there's a free five-day cycling trial for WoW? 😕

I thought they only came in ten-day trial keys with retail copies?

Edit - I stand corrected, the virtual crack dealer is now giving out ten-day hits for free with no credit card. At least that eliminates the possbility of him committing fraud. 😛

- M4H
 
Dude...he's a fvcking teenager, what the hell do you expect?

Is he ugly? If so, he's depressed.

He's bummed out with life, you know, the whole "teen angst" thing...and you're not helping by telling him to get run over by a car, or whatever the hell you said...

He's the type of kid to kill himself...do you really want that?

Sounds like he needs a reality check...his current psych isn't cuttin the mustard...time to get him a new psychiatrist that will actually help, not feed you some BS telling you that he's OK because he isn't...

I don't think you realize how serious this is...you're playing with fire buddy...you well and scream at him when you really should not be...depression isn't something you can just turn off...sounds like you're doing more harm than good.
 
Nutdonet has a really good point. This could be really serious, maybe punishing him isn't enough, I think an addiction to games like this isn't normal.
 
Hahaha, great comments...

About any possible "assault" on my end. First of all, he's the one who assaulted ME. He was pissed at me for locking the computer, and he came at me with his arms flailing. I just simply acted in fight-or-flight mode and subdued him. I didn't really nearly choke him to death, it was more of a submission choke. I was a bit overkill in my description. It was just tight enough that he couldn't move his mouth under my arm and bite it (which he was definitely trying to do).

I wish the police would have made it, they would easily be able to tell what the problem is, because this kid won't go down without a fight, he would resist arrest, and it would be great for him to get a taser in the ass. Haha, and him get taken away by family services? Yeah right, we would never get that lucky. And if they DID take him away, they'd ship him back to us in 24 hours just to get him out of their hair. I highly doubt family services would take him away from him getting subdued by a sibling that doesn't even live in the same household, America isn't that messed up (yet).
 
Originally posted by: Smartazz
Nutdonet has a really good point. This could be really serious, maybe punishing him isn't enough, I think an addiction to games like this isn't normal.
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He's able to break away from reality...be in his "own" world so-to-speak...he's not the only one who gets addicted to gaming...but this is why he does it...he obviously isn't trying to COMPETE with anyone on WoW since he's only playing 5-day trials...each time he has to level...and that's all he's doing...it's allowing him to create a disconnect about what's going on in the real world and what's going on in his head.

I have a family member who went through very, very, similar episodes...he nearly axed himself a handful of times, still suffers from depression 10 years later, spent 3 years in prison...he never got any help before it was too late...

Alien...you gotta wake up man...
 
Originally posted by: Alienwho
I wish the police would have made it, they would easily be able to tell what the problem is, because this kid won't go down without a fight, he would resist arrest, and it would be great for him to get a taser in the ass. Haha, and him get taken away by family services? Yeah right, we would never get that lucky. And if they DID take him away, they'd ship him back to us in 24 hours just to get him out of their hair. I highly doubt family services would take him away from him getting subdued by a sibling that doesn't even live in the same household, America isn't that messed up (yet).
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wow. he's your brother, you're making him sound like a rabid dog.
 
Of course he's depressed. He spends every moment he can on the computer, in the dark. How could that possibly NOT make you depressed? Like I said, it's not like that's all he has to do. My dad bought him a motorcycle, in the summertime my family goes wakeboarding 5 times a week, in the winter we all ski/snowboard...of course he doesn't want to come. And if we force him, it makes the experience miserable for everyone.

wow. he's your brother, you're making him sound like a rabid dog.
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He's pretty much a rabid dog in human form. He's got a one track mind, and if he doesn't get what he wants, he goes ballistic and destroys anything he can get his hands on. At least dogs have loyalty, love and compassion, they even respect and fear the hand that beats them. This kid has none of that. He is incapable of speaking the words "sorry, thank you, please, etc." Dogs can express all of those words. He feels he is owed everything and can do whatever he desires whenever he pleases.
 
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: Smartazz
Nutdonet has a really good point. This could be really serious, maybe punishing him isn't enough, I think an addiction to games like this isn't normal.
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He's able to break away from reality...be in his "own" world so-to-speak...he's not the only one who gets addicted to gaming...but this is why he does it...he obviously isn't trying to COMPETE with anyone on WoW since he's only playing 5-day trials...each time he has to level...and that's all he's doing...it's allowing him to create a disconnect about what's going on in the real world and what's going on in his head.

I have a family member who went through very, very, similar episodes...he nearly axed himself a handful of times, still suffers from depression 10 years later, spent 3 years in prison...he never got any help before it was too late...

Alien...you gotta wake up man...
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I had a friend who was addicted to WOW and he said that was the reason he loved WOW so much, because it puts him into a world of his own where he can be anybody he wants to be on the internet.
 
It's too late now, his insecure attachment should have been avoided when he was a toddler. It is the fault of your parents, not you. The only thing to do now is to seek professional help or to just lay some SERIOUS discipline down on him, and I don't mean hitting/headlocks/other weird stuff. By the looks of it, I don't think he's going to college, so I'm not sure what you can do about the schoolwork thing.
 
Originally posted by: Smartazz
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: Smartazz
Nutdonet has a really good point. This could be really serious, maybe punishing him isn't enough, I think an addiction to games like this isn't normal.
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He's able to break away from reality...be in his "own" world so-to-speak...he's not the only one who gets addicted to gaming...but this is why he does it...he obviously isn't trying to COMPETE with anyone on WoW since he's only playing 5-day trials...each time he has to level...and that's all he's doing...it's allowing him to create a disconnect about what's going on in the real world and what's going on in his head.

I have a family member who went through very, very, similar episodes...he nearly axed himself a handful of times, still suffers from depression 10 years later, spent 3 years in prison...he never got any help before it was too late...

Alien...you gotta wake up man...
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I had a friend who was addicted to WOW and he said that was the reason he loved WOW so much, because it puts him into a world of his own where he can be anybody he wants to be on the internet.
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Hmmm... Yeah. I think the reason he gets so mad isn't necessarily because he's addicted to WoW, but simply because he doesn't get his way. He reacted the same way when we took the xbox away.

To be honest the kid would make a great suicide general someday. I've watched him play Gears of War before, and the way he bosses around and commands all the 20-somethings he's playing with is pretty impressive.

Aren't the suicidal kids usually really passive and quiet? My fear is that he's got so much aggression and energy that he doesn't expel (by regularly playing a simple game of basketball for example) that it just builds and builds for a few months, then explodes. I think he'll take a couple cheap shots and try to kill me a few times before he tries to kill himself.
 
Originally posted by: Xyclone
It's too late now, his insecure attachment should have been avoided when he was a toddler. It is the fault of your parents, not you. The only thing to do now is to seek professional help or to just lay some SERIOUS discipline down on him, and I don't mean hitting/headlocks/other weird stuff. By the looks of it, I don't think he's going to college, so I'm not sure what you can do about the schoolwork thing.
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Yeah, no college for him, not unless he has some miraculous change of heart in the next year or two. To be honest he says he wants to join the military, which is fine by us. I'm going to talk to my parents about seriously sending him to a military school or some kind of boot camp or something.
 
Originally posted by: Alienwho
Originally posted by: Xyclone
It's too late now, his insecure attachment should have been avoided when he was a toddler. It is the fault of your parents, not you. The only thing to do now is to seek professional help or to just lay some SERIOUS discipline down on him, and I don't mean hitting/headlocks/other weird stuff. By the looks of it, I don't think he's going to college, so I'm not sure what you can do about the schoolwork thing.
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Yeah, no college for him, not unless he has some miraculous change of heart in the next year or two. To be honest he says he wants to join the military, which is fine by us. I'm going to talk to my parents about seriously sending him to a military school or some kind of boot camp or something.
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Make sure it's the marines.
 
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