Muslim Woman Jailed For Refusing to Remove Head Scarf in Court (and then cussing at the court)

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Sawyer
Why do Muslims like this expect the society they live in to change for them?

Why did blacks in the 1960s expect society to change for them?

Headgear is OPTIONAL. Skin color is NOT.

There is NO comparison. None whatsoever. Do NOT compare demands for special treatment based on religion to demands for equal treatment based on skin color.

I was covering his blanket statement more than the topic at hand, but anyway....

Don't you think forcing to her to not abide by her non-harmful religous practice is a bit extreme though? A bit of common sense goes a long way.

All the judge had to say is, "Well she's a muslim. Don't worry about it. No one's rights have been violated because she wore some headgear."

 

[ICRS]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Sawyer
Why do Muslims like this expect the society they live in to change for them?

Why did blacks in the 1960s expect society to change for them?

Headgear is OPTIONAL. Skin color is NOT.

There is NO comparison. None whatsoever. Do NOT compare demands for special treatment based on religion to demands for equal treatment based on skin color.

I was covering his blanket statement more than the topic at hand, but anyway....

Don't you think forcing to her to not abide by her non-harmful religous practice is a bit extreme though? A bit of common sense goes a long way.

There is NOTHING not harmful about her religion. It is a disease.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: ICRS
There is NOTHING not harmful about her religion. It is a disease.

Fuck you wise and beautiful woman. All you have ever done on this forum is troll.

 

[SAWYER]

Why is the ACLU not dispatching a team of lawyers to make sure that religion isn't trumping law? If these was a Christian with some silly hat with a cross being allowed shit would hit the fan

 

[IceBergSLiM]

everyones forgotten that america was formed so they could practice their religion without the interferences of government.

 

[SAWYER]

And wtf, does she sleep in it? Bathe in it? Take the stupid thing off for a short amount of time and be done with it

 

[Insomniator]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
everyones forgotten that america was formed so they could practice their religion without the interferences of government.

Yeah, in your house, or walking down the street. You enter a courtroom with rules and regulations, you stfu and abide. Too bad your stupid traditions aren't allowed there, deal with it.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Sawyer
Why do Muslims like this expect the society they live in to change for them?

Why did blacks in the 1960s expect society to change for them?

Headgear is OPTIONAL. Skin color is NOT.

There is NO comparison. None whatsoever. Do NOT compare demands for special treatment based on religion to demands for equal treatment based on skin color.

I was covering his blanket statement more than the topic at hand, but anyway....

Don't you think forcing to her to not abide by her non-harmful religous practice is a bit extreme though? A bit of common sense goes a long way.

All the judge had to say is, "Well she's a muslim. Don't worry about it. No one's rights have been violated because she wore some headgear."

Either the rules apply equally, or they do not. To make exceptions based on religion is saying one class does not have to follow a rule all other classes must follow.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
everyones forgotten that america was formed so they could practice their religion without the interferences of government.

Not if your religion violates the law or in this case, the EQUALLY APPLIED rules of the court.

 

[ICRS]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: ICRS
There is NOTHING not harmful about her religion. It is a disease.

Fuck you wise and beautiful woman. All you have ever done on this forum is troll.

:roll:

Look at the middle east a hell hole because of her religion.

Look at history, the dark ages, WW2, ect... religion is NOT harmless.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Insomniator

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
everyones forgotten that america was formed so they could practice their religion without the interferences of government.

Yeah, in your house, or walking down the street. You enter a courtroom with rules and regulations, you stfu and abide. Too bad your stupid traditions aren't allowed there, deal with it.

why do you hate freedom

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
everyones forgotten that america was formed so they could practice their religion without the interferences of government.

no one is stopping her from doing that, she is being refused entry to the courtroom and she is not plaintiff nor prosecution, meaning her presence is not required.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Actually I think she shouldn't have been asked to remove her head scarf. That isn't some trivial thing for muslim women.

Shush you. There is no place for tolerance in our society.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
everyones forgotten that america was formed so they could practice their religion without the interferences of government.

Not if your religion violates the law or in this case, the EQUALLY APPLIED rules of the court.

Well thats why they founded this country because in england practicing their religion was against the law so I don't see what you are getting at.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
everyones forgotten that america was formed so they could practice their religion without the interferences of government.

Not if your religion violates the law or in this case, the EQUALLY APPLIED rules of the court.

Well thats why they founded this country because in england practicing their religion was against the law so I don't see what you are getting at.

What if my religion says I must kill my wife if she cheats on me?

Should I be allowed to do so because that's what my religion says to do?

Obviously not.

Your rights end where others begin.

If the court has an EQUAL rule that no headgear is allowed, than it applies to ALL not just some.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Amused

Either the rules apply equally, or they do not. To make exceptions based on religion is saying one class does not have to follow a rule all other classes must follow.

Oh bullshit. Rules can be bent and exceptions can be made.

 

[SAWYER]

Again the people that think this is ok, what about a hat with a big cross on it? Would that be ok, why or why not? And if this was a Christian, do you think the ACLU would be fighting against it?

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Sawyer
Why do Muslims like this expect the society they live in to change for them?

Why did blacks in the 1960s expect society to change for them?

Headgear is OPTIONAL. Skin color is NOT.

There is NO comparison. None whatsoever. Do NOT compare demands for special treatment based on religion to demands for equal treatment based on skin color.

I was covering his blanket statement more than the topic at hand, but anyway....

Don't you think forcing to her to not abide by her non-harmful religous practice is a bit extreme though? A bit of common sense goes a long way.

All the judge had to say is, "Well she's a muslim. Don't worry about it. No one's rights have been violated because she wore some headgear."

Either the rules apply equally, or they do not. To make exceptions based on religion is saying one class does not have to follow a rule all other classes must follow.

So do you think that a woman wearing a hat is worth the trouble of law suits? It seems like a silly rule to begin with.

And isn't being held in contempt solely at the discretion of the judge? This whole ordeal could have been easily avoided, with no one getting their toes stepped on.

 

[Insomniator]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Insomniator

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
everyones forgotten that america was formed so they could practice their religion without the interferences of government.

Yeah, in your house, or walking down the street. You enter a courtroom with rules and regulations, you stfu and abide. Too bad your stupid traditions aren't allowed there, deal with it.

why do you hate freedom

If you check some of my old posts at P&N you'd see I am hugely for freedom and people being left the fuck alone, but apparently you can't understand the the difference between freedom in your home and in public and the law in a court room.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
everyones forgotten that america was formed so they could practice their religion without the interferences of government.

no one is stopping her from doing that, she is being refused entry to the courtroom and she is not plaintiff nor prosecution, meaning her presence is not required.

Actually as a public courthouse she has the same right to attend any public hearing as anyone else.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Actually I think she shouldn't have been asked to remove her head scarf. That isn't some trivial thing for muslim women.

Shush you. There is no place for tolerance in our society.

This has nothing to do with tolerance.

She demanded SPECIAL treatment and the right to break a rule that is applied equally to all. Instead of equal rights, she wanted UNequal rights.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
everyones forgotten that america was formed so they could practice their religion without the interferences of government.

Not if your religion violates the law or in this case, the EQUALLY APPLIED rules of the court.

Well thats why they founded this country because in england practicing their religion was against the law so I don't see what you are getting at.

What if my religion says I must kill my wife if she cheats on me?

Should I be allowed to do so because that's what my religion says to do?

Obviously not.

Your rights end where others begin.

If the court has an EQUAL rule that no headgear is allowed, than it applies to ALL not just some.

Because killing your wife violates her rights. Wearing a hat violates no ones.

 

[SAWYER]

Why why can sport hats not be allowed? If a religious article is but not a sports crap, isn't that some sort of discrimination?

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Insomniator

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Insomniator

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
everyones forgotten that america was formed so they could practice their religion without the interferences of government.

Yeah, in your house, or walking down the street. You enter a courtroom with rules and regulations, you stfu and abide. Too bad your stupid traditions aren't allowed there, deal with it.

why do you hate freedom

If you check some of my old posts at P&N you'd see I am hugely for freedom and people being left the fuck alone, but apparently you can't understand the the difference between freedom in your home and in public and the law in a court room.

oh so ur a believer in psudo freedom

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
everyones forgotten that america was formed so they could practice their religion without the interferences of government.

no one is stopping her from doing that, she is being refused entry to the courtroom and she is not plaintiff nor prosecution, meaning her presence is not required.

Actually as a public courthouse she has the same right to attend any public hearing as anyone else.

As long as she follows the EQUALLY APPLIED rules of the court.