How anyone can defend this is beyond me. Jail a women for wearing a headscarf that is an important part of her beliefs. That makes a ton of sense. I don't give a shit what your courtroom rules and regulations say, that is ridiculous.
jonks
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Originally posted by: sdifox
I am pretty sure the ban was universal, like I said. So we are agreeing with difficulty
I'm a difficult person.
My initial disagreement with you had to do with whether the judge's rule should be treated differently than a law.
Just saw your reply on Lemon. The education funding there had to do with whether or not the government giving parochial schools public tax dollars was a violation fo the separation of church and state. Funding isn't a law, but it is government action. Lemon is the go-to case for 1st amendment/religion cases. As you probably know, most SC cases have far larger implications than the facts at hand. The case may have dealt with nonpublic teacher compensation, but the case established the modern framework for government/religious interaction.
Actually I did. I don't care if she cursed, I would curse too if I was being kicked out for that.
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The court has a no headgear rule that appllies equally to all people regardless of race, sex or religion.
Now... why is that so hard to understand and why in the world do you think that would give you or anyone else the right to show contempt to the court?
Because the rule does not apply equally to all people. It applies less to people whose religion does not require them to wear headgear, versus those who feel they are obligated to wear headgear by their faith. And like I said I don't care what the rule says, putting someone in jail for wearing a hat, especially when it is for religious purposes, is ridiculous. It. Is. A. Fucking. Hat.
Jeff7
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Oh no, her culture's silly rules on head attire interfered with our silly rules on head attire!!!
Isn't our species kind of weird sometimes?
?Did you ever notice any time you see two groups of people who really hate each other, chances are good they?re wearing different kinds of hats? Keep an eye on that, it might be important.? - George Carlin
Isn't our species kind of weird sometimes?
?Did you ever notice any time you see two groups of people who really hate each other, chances are good they?re wearing different kinds of hats? Keep an eye on that, it might be important.? - George Carlin
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She. Wasn't. Jailed. For. Wearing. A. Fucking. Hat.
And, no, equality is equality. You damn feelings or beliefs have nothing to do with it. Either all men are equal, or they are not. Personally, I like the all men are equal rule. Trust me, in the long run it benefits minorities and minority religions.
You're cutting off your nose to spite your face here and not even seeing it. By asking to make some men more equal because of their beliefs or feelings, you'll create exactly the opposite of what you really seek. In that case, the MAJORITY feelings and beliefs will get the preferential treatment at the expense of the minority.
If I was asked to leave and said "This is fucking bullshit" as I turned to leave I don't think I would be jailed for 10 days the vast majority of the time. It is obvious the judge has some sort of vendetta.
We are debating if a woman is allowed to wear a headscarf inside a courthouse. Who keeps bringing up "she wasn't arrested for that? she is in the wrong".
If that is true.. why is this thread created? This thread is looking more and more like a "the evil Muslim woman is wrong she cursed in the courtroom" rather than the main discussion.
If that is true.. why is this thread created? This thread is looking more and more like a "the evil Muslim woman is wrong she cursed in the courtroom" rather than the main discussion.
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Actually, if you'd read all my posts, you'd find that the no headgear rule makes a lot of sense in a court room. And to make it easier and not waste time, they just banned all headgear instead of trying to pick and choose the disruptive ones.
My panties aren't in a bunch. Maybe yours are?
It isn't equal. It is like if you banned pants in the courtroom. Obviously this rule hurts men more than women, because women have no problem wearing a dress but you are humiliating the men by making them wear skirts.
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Hmmmm, just noticed this part of the whole to-do:
So . . . she was not even IN the courtroom, AND was turning to leave but, teh noes, uttered an expletive, and THIS constitutes contempt of court? For THAT they handcuffed her and put her in jail?
Sounds like a red-neck overreaction to me, no wonder they caved and set her free.
So . . . she was not even IN the courtroom, AND was turning to leave but, teh noes, uttered an expletive, and THIS constitutes contempt of court? For THAT they handcuffed her and put her in jail?
Sounds like a red-neck overreaction to me, no wonder they caved and set her free.
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