Muslim woman discriminated against on plane

[Ichinisan]

The first terrosit attack on America soil was done by a white male named Timothy McVeigh.

I guess most people have forgotten this little fact.

Seriously? The first? In the entirety of American history?

 

[mindmajick]

Are you defending the poll results, where 75% in S. Asia and 50% in M.East want death for leaving Islam? With this much deflection... you seem to be defending it.

It'd be nice if Muslims were _ever_ seen condemning their extremists... instead of protecting them.

There are so many examples of Muslims condemning terrorism. You must receive news from multiple sources. The media promotes sensationalism but the truth is usually not hard to find if you look.

Here's the proof-
http://bfy.tw/6cB

 

[CZroe]

Eh that depends on how you define terrorist. Im sure if we go through our history there are many more before McVeigh. For starters just a few years earlier Ted Kaczynski.

Bill Ayers and his Weather Underground.

 

[inachu]

Seriously? The first? In the entirety of American history?

I used to work with his cousin. His cousin looks like exact twin.

 

[inachu]

The only reason why Muslims are not as a group completely terrible is because the vast majority choose to ignore the violent and brutal parts of the Quran. That's the good news.

The bad news is that the Quran can never be upgraded and some people think it's the literal word of God as told by the Prophet. There are always hardcore fundamentalists in every religion but Islam is by far the worst as they literally believe the Quran word for word, and those moron fundamentalists can thus be used as weapons by warmongers.

It's like, imagine that the world has several major and minor mobile phone OSes: Blackberry, iOS, Android, Windows, Symbian, Firefox OS, WebOS, etc. Now imagine that one of them (say, WebOS) can never legally (under the WebOS license) be upgraded from version 1.0 and that 1.0 was written 1400 years ago. That's Islam.

Sure, people can and have "forked" from the original 1.0, but there is a hardcore, militant group that believes that 1.0 should always remain "pure" and that any attempt to change it is a blasphemous "innovation" to be met with violence. So they attack anyone who tries to fork from 1.0, and also try to convert users from other operating systems.

Back to OP: If true, it's not a good thing to discriminate against Muslims in this way. It just stirs resentment and is not persuasive at getting people to drop WebOS. However, http://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim should be required reading for any would-be converts to Islam. Also, people who argue that "most Muslims don't REALLY believe ____" should read: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/ For instance, look at the % of Muslims polled who think that leaving Islam should be met with the death penalty. And the Pew poll didn't even survey the more hardcore places like Saudi Arabia, which would have even higher %.

For the record I believe most Muslims are good people, but DESPITE their cult (it is a cult of personality, let's be real here, the whole Mohammed-can-do-no-wrong-and-represents-the-word-of-God-and-his-Quran-is-the-infallible-and-literal-word-of-God thing is exactly like a cult), not BECAUSE of it. And even the "good" parts of the Islam are mostly stolen from the predecessor Abrahamic religions.

The Jesuits claim they are responsible for all of muslim terrorisms because they claim that thousands of years ago their very own people/followers were the ones who created the muslim faith because those other non jews were jealous of the jewish religion for all they had.

 

[Ns1]

flight attendant mucked up bad and white dude needs to DIAF.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Are you defending the poll results, where 75% in S. Asia and 50% in M.East want death for leaving Islam? With this much deflection... you seem to be defending it.

It'd be nice if Muslims were _ever_ seen condemning their extremists... instead of protecting them.

I see this poll and it shows that a majority Indonesians are for death of those who leave Islam and sharia law. They must have spoken with people in the only province that practices a strict form of Islam (North Aceh), it's also the only province in Indonesia that practices sharia law. All of those I've ever worked with in Indonesia were strongly against having sharia law. I have to think this is why 32 of the 33 provinces do not have sharia law.

 

[PokerGuy]

So, we have a story that just has claims from some woman about discrimination. How do we know any of that happened at all? How do we know what was said, to whom, and how? Was any of it recorded?

I don't have any idea of what actually happened, I don't know if she was discriminated against or not.

Basically, just SJW's looking for something to rage over. Idiots.

 

[JackBurton]

CNN loves stirring up racial shit. Any little story they find that they think they can turn into some racial BS headline, they'll do it. Why? Because that's what sells now.

 

[PokerGuy]

CNN loves stirring up racial sh*t. Any little story they find that they think they can turn into some racial BS headline, they'll do it. Why? Because that's what sells now.

Hey, I'm sure lots and lots of SJW's are waiting just to lap up this kind of crap, and when you have CNN's ratings, you do what you have to.......

 

[umbrella39]

Derp derp derp

 

[Ns1]

So, we have a story that just has claims from some woman about discrimination. How do we know any of that happened at all? How do we know what was said, to whom, and how? Was any of it recorded?

I don't have any idea of what actually happened, I don't know if she was discriminated against or not.

Basically, just SJW's looking for something to rage over. Idiots.

We know something happened because united admitted so on their site. As to the accuracy of what happened well see if other witnesses turn up.

 

[blastingcap]

I see this poll and it shows that a majority Indonesians are for death of those who leave Islam and sharia law. They must have spoken with people in the only province that practices a strict form of Islam (North Aceh), it's also the only province in Indonesia that practices sharia law. All of those I've ever worked with in Indonesia were strongly against having sharia law. I have to think this is why 32 of the 33 provinces do not have sharia law.

I don't know when you last visited Indonesia, but things are changing there. Also, do you seriously think Pew was so incompetent that it only polled Aceh? Come on!

Anyway, SE Asia is more than just Indonesia; there's also Malaysia and a few other places like Brunei. And if you look at what's been going on there, they've been taking a turn for the more conservative, such as:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/22/opinion/indonesias-rising-religious-intolerance.html - Among other things, an atheist was beaten up for being an atheist; the angry Muslims who beat him up called the cops, who arrested him instead of the mob! And Indonesians have made it very difficult to even open up a non-Mosque house of worship. Also:

"The Ahmadiyya Muslim community is perhaps the most persecuted. Violent attacks against this group, whose beliefs are considered heretical by many conservative Muslims, have increased significantly. Last year I met victims of one of the worst outbreaks of violence, an attack on Ahmadis in Cikeusik on Feb. 6, 2011, which left three people dead.
One man described how he was stripped naked and beaten severely and a machete was held at his throat. He was dragged through the village and dumped in a truck like a corpse. Another man fled into a fast-flowing river, pursued by attackers throwing rocks and shouting “kill, kill, kill.”

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/01/21/indonesia-rights-rollback-religious-minorities-women - "Militant Sunni Islamist groups, such as the Islamic Defenders Front (Front Pembela Islam, or FPI) have frequently threatened or attacked religious minority communities with impunity. Yet Indonesia’s home affairs minister, Gamawan Fauzi, on October 25 praised the FPI as a potential “national asset.”

"Indonesia’s official Commission on Violence against Women reported in August that national and local governments in Indonesia had passed 60 new discriminatory regulations in 2013 in addition to the 282 such rules already on the books. These include 79 local bylaws requiring women to wear the hijab, or head scarf. In August, H.M. Rasyid, a district education chief in south Sumatra, proposed that high school girls be subjected to mandatory “virginity tests” to tackle perceived problems of “premarital sex and prostitution.” Raysid later insisted he had been misquoted – but similar tests were also proposed in East Java.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22165159 - "an increasing trend of intolerance in Indonesia" with description of how minority religions are treated

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/w...t-underlines-malaysias-culture-wars.html?_r=0 - Can't even touch a dog in Malaysia without controversy

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/...g-worst-in-faith-based-discrimination-says-gl - "A first survey of 60 countries last year showed just seven where death, often by public beheading, is the punishment for either blasphemy or apostasy - renouncing belief or switching to another religion which is also protected under U.N. accords.

But this year's more comprehensive study showed six more, bringing the full list to Afghanistan, Iran, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates and Yemen." Those are state-sanctioned death penalty for leaving Islam. Even if not strictly enforced the fact that it's even possible for such laws to be passed there is revealing. And the cops in those countries often look the other way rather than protect religious (or other) minorities. Just ask the guy who got beaten up for being atheist, and then got jailed by the cops for "blasphemy" (see above re: Indonesia).

 

[PokerGuy]

We know something happened because united admitted so on their site. As to the accuracy of what happened well see if other witnesses turn up.

We know "something" happened, but we have no clue what, or if it was anything wrong at all. All we have is one womans claims.

If her claims are true, then shame on united. If not, then not. I won't be on the bandwagon of the SJW idiots who immediately run with unverified claims on social media, calling for boycots and other stupidity without actually knowing anything.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I don't know when you last visited Indonesia, but things are changing there. Also, do you seriously think Pew was so incompetent that it only polled Aceh? Come on!

Anyway, SE Asia is more than just Indonesia

I was in Indonesia less than a year ago. The fact that only 1 of 33 provinces practices sharia law tells me that the polls number of 72% who want sharia law can't be valid. If there was that amount of support the laws would have been changed long ago.

I understand that SE Asia is more than just Indonesia however, my comments were strictly concerning Indonesia.

 

[PokerGuy]

I was in Indonesia less than a year ago. The fact that only 1 of 33 provinces practices sharia law tells me that the polls number of 72% who want sharia law can't be valid. If there was that amount of support the laws would have been changed long ago.

I'll preface my comments with the fact that I'm not an expert on Indonesia, but don't they have essentially de-facto sharia law for muslims there? I thought there were religious courts and civil courts, and that religious courts have jurisdictions over a bunch of stuff for muslims. So in effect, Aceh has full sharia law, while the rest is somewhat of hybrid sharia law setup. I don't think the Pew research went into that much detail, but the gist of the polling is that the vast majority of people support religious (sharia) law in one form or another.

 

[thraashman]

Seriously? The first? In the entirety of American history?

I think of this when I think of early terrorist attacks on US soil. It could also be considered in the argument for earliest "school attack" in the US.

 

[blastingcap]

The fact that only 1 of 33 provinces practices sharia law tells me that the polls number of 72% who want sharia law can't be valid. If there was that amount of support the laws would have been changed long ago.

Sharia means different things to different people, and you also seem to have an impossibly optimistic viewpoint of how politics and laws work. There are so many oppressive regimes now and throughout history that it's actually the exception when laws accurately and quickly reflect what people want. In places like the US there is so much gridlock that it can take literally decades to move on certain topics because nobody can agree on even the definitions.

in any case I find it more disturbing that 76% of SE Asians polled would support execution of those who leave Islam.

 

[OutHouse]

The first terrosit attack on America soil was done by a white male named Timothy McVeigh.

I guess most people have forgotten this little fact.

holy shit are you stupid?

 

[Orignal Earl]

I don't think the Pew research went into that much detail, but the gist of the polling is that the vast majority of people support religious (sharia) law in one form or another.

See that's the thing, all Muslim do support Sharia in one form or another
The same way Catholics, Anglicans, Jews, Presbyterians, Hindus etc all support their religious laws and courts.

When you see a state trying to ban Sharia, they are essentially banning Muslims.
This has happened when a state tries to ban circumcision or kosher food

After Hitler, you wouldn't think this stuff could happen again, but gullible people will always be there to swallow up the crap

 

[HomerJS]

Bill Ayers and his Weather Underground.

I think the KKK has him beat.

 

[Oyeve]

Being mostly of Indonesian heritage, I do not care. . I am NOT religious in the least. My Indonesian family does not practice ANY religion. We are pretty damn chill and peaceful people.

 

[Orignal Earl]

According to a stewardess, opening alcohol is done every time to prevent it leaving the plane.
Not opening a can of pop is absolutely permitted for hygienic purposes

SJW 1 Racists 0

 

[cubby1223]

She requested an unopened can of coke for "hygienic reasons". That right there is indication this isn't the full complete story being retold. Later on "I felt the hate in his voice and his raging eyes."

She's prepping all her statements for a lawsuit.

 

[Nebor]

Muslims begin boycotting United Airlines

So what you're telling me is, the south tower of the World Trade Center could have been saved but for one can of soda?