Muslim woman discriminated against on plane

[Venix]

If this woman got indignant over them refusing to give her a sealed can of soda and made up the whole thing to play the victim like this guy did, what would be different? It's an equal possibility. We can't condemn United. We don't know who is telling the truth, but I will say that her behavior is strikingly familiar and I do wonder if she made it all up.

You're being generous to call it an equal possibility. I think it's much more likely that she fabricated major parts of the story, if not the entire thing.

The two-dimensional cartoon villain passenger, the convenient immediate hypocrisy of the flight attendant that proves her discrimination beyond any doubt, the "social justice"-aware pilot who apologizes for his "white privilege"--I've watched low budget made-for-TV movies with more believable plots. Maybe it happened just as she said, but absent any corroborating evidence or witnesses, I'm comfortable with dismissing it as a probable case of yet another "social justice" twit lying to further a narrative.

 

[cubby1223]

You're being generous to call it an equal possibility. I think it's much more likely that she fabricated major parts of the story, if not the entire thing.

The two-dimensional cartoon villain passenger, the convenient immediate hypocrisy of the flight attendant that proves her discrimination beyond any doubt, the "social justice"-aware pilot who apologizes for his "white privilege"--I've watched low budget made-for-TV movies with more believable plots. Maybe it happened just as she said, but absent any corroborating evidence or witnesses, I'm comfortable with dismissing it as a probable case of yet another "social justice" twit lying to further a narrative.

And when it's finally revealed the story was embellished beyond recognition, the narrative will change to "A situation like that could have happened, and we need to continue shaming white corporate America because of the possibility."

 

[Blue_Max]

Or they could just mind their own business. Between Original Earl and Victorian Grey I've grown to dislike Canadians even more than when I worked for a fat, pompous RCR Major.

Hey, we're not all super-mega-college-liberal sheeple who believe that radical (which just means "actively-practicing") islam can be quelled with BIG hugs and complete acceptance for their way of life in our countries.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Hey, we're not all super-mega-college-liberal sheeple who believe that radical (which just means "actively-practicing") islam can be quelled with BIG hugs and complete acceptance for their way of life in our countries.

I wish I could give you a big hug and make all the radical Islamics and feminists leave you alone

 

[umbrella39]

Looks like United has dismissed the entire thing. Good on them.

You were saying....

The flight attendant who refused to give a Muslim an unopened can of soda because she said it could be used "as a weapon" will receive additional sensitivity training before returning to her position, but will not serve United Airlines customers in the future, her employer said.

Both the pilot and the flight attendant apologized to Ahmad after the flight, she said.

“United does not tolerate behavior that is discriminatory – or that appears to be discriminatory – against our customers or employees,” the company said in the statement.

In a statement Wednesday, Republic Airways Holdings, which owns Shuttle America, said it “deeply regrets the poor judgment and lack of sensitivity” the flight attendant demonstrated toward Ahmad. Both companies say they have opened investigations into the incident, and Republic Airways Holdings says it is “confident that this is an isolated incident.” Officials there are reviewing company training policies, Republic Airways said, and are “in the process” of reaching out to Ahmad to apologize.

http://www.latimes.com/travel/deals/la-trb-diet-coke-airline-apology-20150603-story.html

Face it... you could care less if this happened exactly as she has laid it out. She deserves to be treated like this in your world....

 

[blastingcap]

You were saying....



http://www.latimes.com/travel/deals/la-trb-diet-coke-airline-apology-20150603-story.html

Face it... you could care less if this happened exactly as she has laid it out. She deserves to be treated like this in your world....

"or that appears to be discriminatory" -- regardless of facts. It could be a witch hunt against the Duke LaCrosse players where people just assumed things. Have any eyewitnesses to the incident attested to what happened? Because it's still clear as mud to me right now.. UA doesn't want the publicity and it's easier to fire/dismiss/demote/whatever an employee than it is to stand behind her and take fire. So even if the attendant did not do what was alleged, UA would be tempted to just roll its eyes, apologize anyway, and put this incident behind them.

 

[cubby1223]

Face it... you could care less if this happened exactly as she has laid it out. She deserves to be treated like this in your world....

Ah, the remarks of a total idiot. Good job! You posts continue to lower the average IQ of this subforum

 

[Ns1]

"or that appears to be discriminatory" -- regardless of facts. It could be a witch hunt against the Duke LaCrosse players where people just assumed things. Have any eyewitnesses to the incident attested to what happened? Because it's still clear as mud to me right now.. UA doesn't want the publicity and it's easier to fire/dismiss/demote/whatever an employee than it is to stand behind her and take fire. So even if the attendant did not do what was alleged, UA would be tempted to just roll its eyes, apologize anyway, and put this incident behind them.

face it bro, chick got discriminated against and united handled the flight attendant.

 

[blastingcap]

face it bro, chick got discriminated against and united handled the flight attendant.

Tell me more about how you were there as an eyewitness.

 

[Ns1]

Tell me more about how you were there as an eyewitness.

Tell me more about how her story has been disproved

 

[blastingcap]

Tell me more about how her story has been disproved

She had the burden of proof, and companies throw their employees under the bus all the time because it's not worth the hassle.

We also know that people make up stuff sometimes.. there are MANY documented hoaxes, as has been discussed earlier in this thread.

I'm not saying it didn't happen or that it did. I'm saying we don't know for sure what happened, and the company's actions are not dispositive.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Tell me more about how you were there as an eyewitness.

Tell us more about how *you* were there as an eyewitness.

You sure seem to have an awful lot invested in her being a liar.

Unless, of course, you have proof that she and the company are both lying. Have any of the other passengers or crew piped up to say so?

 

[umbrella39]

Ah, the remarks of a total idiot. Good job! You posts continue to lower the average IQ of this subforum

Ah... hits too close to home. Better job! You sure you weren't on the plane calling her names? Face it, you seem to be cut from the same cloth as the person I quoted. You know what I posted is true, and the truth hurts your butt. Underwhelming apologist is underwhelming. Your reply sets the bar so low that little sweet couldn't slide under it on his knees.

 

[blastingcap]

Tell us more about how *you* were there as an eyewitness.

You sure seem to have an awful lot invested in her being a liar.

Unless, of course, you have proof that she and the company are both lying. Have any of the other passengers or crew piped up to say so?

I don't have the burden of proof no matter how much you try to make it so, because I am not saying she lied. If you're trying to say that the story went exactly as she claimed, then YOU have the burden of proof. Stop picking a fight you cannot win and read the post IMMEDIATELY BEFORE your post.

She had the burden of proof, and companies throw their employees under the bus all the time because it's not worth the hassle.

We also know that people make up stuff sometimes.. there are MANY documented hoaxes, as has been discussed earlier in this thread.

I'm not saying it didn't happen or that it did. I'm saying we don't know for sure what happened, and the company's actions are not dispositive.

The most you can argue about is how often companies would rather fire their employees than let bad publicity drag on, but even then, I'm not saying it necessarily happened in this specific instance. And if you think companies don't sometimes jettison employees at the first sign of trouble, you're very naive. And you better not make dongle jokes. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/how-one-stupid-tweet-ruined-justine-saccos-life.html?_r=0

 

[Nebor]

Face it... you could care less if this happened exactly as she has laid it out. She deserves to be treated like this in your world....

3000%. I'd applaud the villainous redneck in this story. That's what she gets for traveling without a male escort anyway. She's not even good at her own shitty religion.

 

[WelshBloke]

3000%. I'd applaud the villainous redneck in this story. That's what she gets for traveling without a male escort anyway. She's not even good at her own shitty religion.

You sound more like spidey every post.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Quote:
Originally Posted by blastingcap

For the record I believe most Christians are good people, but DESPITE their cult (it is a cult of personality, let's be real here, the whole Jesus-can-do-no-wrong-and-represents-the-word-of-God-and-his-Bible-is-the-infallible-and-literal-word-of-God thing is exactly like a cult), not BECAUSE of it.



It works this way, too.

it does work that way, if the discussion was about Christians and not Muslims!!

 

[mikeymikec]

What this thread reminds me of:

 

[blastingcap]

it does work that way, if the discussion was about Christians and not Muslims!!

Stop selectively quoting only part of what I wrote, and then overwriting what I actually wrote. And I'm no fan of any of the Abrahamic religions by the way. This is about how how Islam sucks, not how Christianity sucks too. Most Muslims and Christians are cool though, just the religions are crap and Islam is crappier because of its inability to let go of 1400-year old texts whereas the vast majority of Christians understand that the Bible was not the literal word of God or written by God (even though a minority may believe so).

 

[Nebor]

You sound more like spidey every post.

Sorry, I've grown lazy at differentiating my various accounts over the last few months. I've been busy with some real life stuff.

 

[HomerJS]

I'd be more worried about this Christian woman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Gmdh1HCng

 

[feralkid]

I have my issues with the article and what they claim happened.

I have flown a bunch. I have NEVER gotten a Can of anything. they open it and give me 1/3 of it. I have never got a can let alone a full one.

shrug maybe its the flights i been on. but on both short and long flights it never happens.

also the argument that it could be used as a weapon i bad. really bad.

You have to ask for "a can" otherwise they pour it for you.

Yes the weapon argument is incredibly stupid.



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[feralkid]

That is my experience as well. Beer is given as a full can because the person buys the can. Everyone else gets a tiny cup of soda/water. I'm wondering if this lady wanted a full can and not just the cup. Hard to say, but the guy getting a full can of beer versus her getting a cup is not hypocrisy because the man purchased the full can of beer. :thumbsup:

The flight attendant may have messed up and not opened the can of beer, but policy is to open the cans.

Read the article, prepare to be enlightened.

 

[feralkid]

Ah, the remarks of a total idiot. Good job! You posts continue to lower the average IQ of this subforum

Apparently you haven't read many of Nebor's posts.