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Aimster

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I have no idea how this works, but since most if not all Muslim nations have a "tax" according to the Quran, will that money in the future go to the aid of the Tsunami victims? It's supposed to help Muslims who need help the most, right?

And also Saudi Arabia generates $$ billions of dollars in revenue just because of their religious sites. Don't they have some obligation to give that money to the Muslim nations hit by the Tsunami?
 

Aimster

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I know some Muslim countries have boxes on the street where people donate money. We are talking Millions of dollars combined if not more.
 

Stunt

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Muslim countries with the exception of Kuwait are VERY poor nations...i do not expect them to be making very large donations.
 

Stunt

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Look at these debt to GDP ratios of key muslim nations:
Lebanon 185.10
Egypt 101.80
Saudi Arabia 94.60
Jordan 92.70
Syria 89.00
 

GreatBarracuda

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Originally posted by: Aimster
I have no idea how this works, but since most if not all Muslim nations have a "tax" according to the Quran, will that money in the future go to the aid of the Tsunami victims? It's supposed to help Muslims who need help the most, right?

And also Saudi Arabia generates $$ billions of dollars in revenue just because of their religious sites. Don't they have some obligation to give that money to the Muslim nations hit by the Tsunami?

And you are asking this question to who? The AT P&N population which is generally non-muslim? And yes, Muslim countries are trying to help the victims of this disaster as much as they can. Last I heard was $30M USD from Saudi Arabia.
 

Stunt

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Also last time i checked we didnt donate on racial or religious terms but need and ability.
i'm sick of people asking the muslim nations to pony up cash when they can afford it least.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Also last time i checked we didnt donate on racial or religious terms but need and ability.
i'm sick of people asking the muslim nations to pony up cash when they can afford it least.

Yes the non oil producing muslim countries cant afford to help out, but the oil-filthy rich muslim countries can, but dont.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Stunt
Also last time i checked we didnt donate on racial or religious terms but need and ability.
i'm sick of people asking the muslim nations to pony up cash when they can afford it least.

Yes the non oil producing muslim countries cant afford to help out, but the oil-filthy rich muslim countries can, but dont.
Which ones might these be?
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Stunt
Also last time i checked we didnt donate on racial or religious terms but need and ability.
i'm sick of people asking the muslim nations to pony up cash when they can afford it least.

Yes the non oil producing muslim countries cant afford to help out, but the oil-filthy rich muslim countries can, but dont.
Which ones might these be?

Muslim nations cant afford it? The middle east is right behind China as the fast growing economic region in the world. But as for your question, Saudia Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Oman, etc etc etc. The people of these countries may be poor, but their governments/leaders/rulers, are filthly rich.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Stunt
Also last time i checked we didnt donate on racial or religious terms but need and ability.
i'm sick of people asking the muslim nations to pony up cash when they can afford it least.

Yes the non oil producing muslim countries cant afford to help out, but the oil-filthy rich muslim countries can, but dont.
Which ones might these be?

Muslim nations cant afford it? The middle east is right behind China as the fast growing economic region in the world. But as for your question, Saudia Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Oman, etc etc etc. The people of these countries may be poor, but their governments/leaders/rulers, are filthly rich.

your leaving out Kuwait

also why do we give billions of dollars to Egypt every year? i never understood that
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Stunt
Also last time i checked we didnt donate on racial or religious terms but need and ability.
i'm sick of people asking the muslim nations to pony up cash when they can afford it least.

Yes the non oil producing muslim countries cant afford to help out, but the oil-filthy rich muslim countries can, but dont.
Which ones might these be?

Kuwait, UAE, Qatar
 
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I believe that Kuwait is donating $100 million - $30 million in funds and $70 million in reconstruction projects from one of their own companies. I guess they could fudge those $70 million 'construction' projects around though. It must be pretty difficult to get an exact value, but even $30 million is pretty great for Kuwait.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Stunt
Also last time i checked we didnt donate on racial or religious terms but need and ability.
i'm sick of people asking the muslim nations to pony up cash when they can afford it least.

Yes the non oil producing muslim countries cant afford to help out, but the oil-filthy rich muslim countries can, but dont.
Which ones might these be?

Kuwait, UAE, Qatar
Ahhh so the nations with the 78th, 68th, and 113rd largest GDP respectivly.

These seem like idea candidates to lead the aid of one of the world's largest disasters :p

Gimme a break people.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Stunt
Also last time i checked we didnt donate on racial or religious terms but need and ability.
i'm sick of people asking the muslim nations to pony up cash when they can afford it least.

Yes the non oil producing muslim countries cant afford to help out, but the oil-filthy rich muslim countries can, but dont.
Which ones might these be?

Kuwait, UAE, Qatar
Ahhh so the nations with the 78th, 68th, and 113rd largest GDP respectivly.

These seem like idea candidates to lead the aid of one of the world's largest disasters :p

Gimme a break people.

Those countries are rich. Kuwait alone announced a $10 billion budget surplus. The GDP per capita of these nations is on par or 3/4 or so of Western European nations. I thought you were in love with equating stuff per capita.
 
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I think that Qatar is donating $25 million, UAE $20 million. Even though we don't know how much of these are actually just loans and what not, that's still pretty good.
 
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Stunt
Also last time i checked we didnt donate on racial or religious terms but need and ability.
i'm sick of people asking the muslim nations to pony up cash when they can afford it least.

Yes the non oil producing muslim countries cant afford to help out, but the oil-filthy rich muslim countries can, but dont.
Which ones might these be?

Kuwait, UAE, Qatar
Ahhh so the nations with the 78th, 68th, and 113rd largest GDP respectivly.

These seem like idea candidates to lead the aid of one of the world's largest disasters :p

Gimme a break people.

Those countries are rich. Kuwait alone announced a $10 billion budget surplus. The GDP per capita of these nations is on par or 3/4 or so of Western European nations. I thought you were in love with equating stuff per capita.

Kuwait, Qatar, and UAE are tiny. They're probably doing pretty good.
 

Stunt

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Middle East and Africa
Iran Iran has sent 221 tonnes of relief supplies consisting of medicine, tents, blankets, clothes and foodstuff to Indonesia as well as donating USD 675,000 through the Red Crescent.

Israel The Israeli government has sent supplies worth USD 100,000 to each affected country. In addition, an Israeli medical team was dispatched to Sri Lanka, and 150 IDF doctors and rescue and relief teams were mobilised for the region with 82-tonnes of aid including 9 tonnes of medicine, nearly 4,000 litres of mineral water, 12 tonnes of food, over 17 tonnes of baby food, 10,000 blankets, tents, sheeting, as well as power generators. An additional offer of assistance to India in the form of search and rescue teams from their Home Front Command as well as food and medicine has also been extended, and the Israeli Ministry of Health has been dispatched to Thailand on medical mission. And ultra-Orthodox Jewish forensic workers, famous in Israel for post-terror bombing victim identification for families and proper burial, have been dispatched to the region to collect and identify victims. [77] (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/519314.html), [78] (http://www.uja.org/content_dis...html?ArticleID=142051), [79] (http://www.boston.com/news/wor..._bible_images?mode=PF)

Kuwait The Kuwaiti government has donated KWD 3m (USD 10m) as humanitarian aid.

Morocco The Moroccan Foreign Ministry has said that aid, consisting of medical supply, vaccines and blankets, will be dispatched to Indonesia, Sri Lanka, India, Thailand, Malaysia, and the Maldives.

Mozambique The Mozambique government has given a "symbolic" [80] (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4134485.stm) USD 100,000 to an aid appeal, and is encouraging businesses and individuals to donate to accounts set up by the local Red Cross.

Oman Oman is sending relief goods worth USD 3m for the victims of tsunami in Sri Lanka, Maldives and Indonesia.Ali Ibrahim Shanoon Al-Raisi, executive director of Oman Charitable Organization (OCC), the country's Red Crescent, said four consignments carrying 300 tonnes of goods each have already been flown to Sri Lanka and Maldives in the past three days.[81] (http://www.aljazeerah.info/7%2...%20Relief%20Goods.htm)

Qatar Qatar has offered USD 25m, plus food, medical and logistical supplies. [82] (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4151241.stm)

Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia has pledged a USD 30m aid package consisting of USD 5m worth of food, tents and medicine, to be transported and distributed via the Saudi Red Crescent and another USD 5 million in funds which will be given to several international aid groups such as the Red Cross and the UN High Commissioner for Refugees.

Syria A Syrian aeroplane loaded with 40 tonnes of medical and food aid took off from Damascus Airport to Indonesia Thursday . The Syrian government newspaper Al-Thawra quoted Syria's Health Minister, Maher al-Hussami, as saying that the load included 20 tonnes of medicine, food and drinking water, as well as 880 blankets

Turkey Turkey announced that it will donate TRY 1.7m (USD 1.25m), which will be used in reconstruction projects and be allocated to Sri Lanka, India, Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia and Maldives. Türk Kizilayi (http://www.kizilay.org.tr) is also collecting funds.

UAE USD 20m and 30 tonnes of food and medicine in the care of the Red Crescent, which is to deliver them to India, Indonesia and Sri Lanka [83] (http://www.channelnewsasia.com/killerwaves/aid.htm).

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digitalsm

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Stunt
Also last time i checked we didnt donate on racial or religious terms but need and ability.
i'm sick of people asking the muslim nations to pony up cash when they can afford it least.

Yes the non oil producing muslim countries cant afford to help out, but the oil-filthy rich muslim countries can, but dont.
Which ones might these be?

Kuwait, UAE, Qatar
Ahhh so the nations with the 78th, 68th, and 113rd largest GDP respectivly.

These seem like idea candidates to lead the aid of one of the world's largest disasters :p

Gimme a break people.

Those countries are rich. Kuwait alone announced a $10 billion budget surplus. The GDP per capita of these nations is on par or 3/4 or so of Western European nations. I thought you were in love with equating stuff per capita.

Kuwait, Qatar, and UAE are tiny. They're probably doing pretty good.

Kuwait, Qatar, and UAE, have vast reserves of money(for the size of nation they are), not to mention each has economic growth of 7-10%.
 

Aimster

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Indonesia is (or was?) the largest Muslim nation with the largest economy and they were the most hit.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Kuwait, Qatar, and UAE, have vast reserves of money(for the size of nation they are), not to mention each has economic growth of 7-10%.

Most of that is based on increased oil revenues.
Oil won't be around forever.