music appreciation thread

[yoda291]

I like rock music...by rock music, I mean like the beatles, elvis, everly bros, sam cooke, and so on and so forth.

I also like house/dance music a lot...and trance.

I have little love for hip-hop, rap, etc

With this in mind, someone recommend me some music I would enjoy that is neither house/dance/rock or a fusion of any/all 3. so r&b, trance, alternative rock from any of the past 3 decades, hip hop, metal, etc are all good. I'll even try rap music and the like. THE catch is, you have to explain why the music you picked would be appealing for me to start in with and what I should be paying attention for (a particularly good solo, excellent instrumental, particularly excellent layering of tracks, etc).

I have a respectable listening arrangement here, (hd650s wired into my amp from a chaintech av710 in dual channel).

 

[Ryan]

You all should own this album. That is all.

 

[yoda291]

Originally posted by: rbloedow
You all should own this album. That is all.

um...why?

I can just as easily say you must all purchase the complete motown singles box set.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Stone Temple Pilots, or anything Scott Weiland's been involved in, really (well, other than drugs).
His musical arrangement is outside of the "norm", hence the usual "alternative" title, and his musical tastes/experiments in different groups cover a dynamic range where you'd be sure to find something you'd like.

Weezer
They started the whole "emo" scene. The secen isn't my bag (well, I do like the chicks), but their tunes are pretty catchy, reltively intelligent, and witty to boot. Well, their older stuff, anyway.

others I'm going to mention without explanations;

- Ben Folds Five
- Veruca Salt
- Tenacious D
- Jimmy Eat World
- White Stripes
- Local H
- Jet

This one might be a stretch, but;

-Goldfinger

 

[Zugzwang152]

britney spears :thumbsup:

 

[yoda291]

Originally posted by: Jehovah
Stone Temple Pilots, or anything Scott Weiland's been involved in, really (well, other than drugs).
His musical arrangement is outside of the "norm", hence the usual "alternative" title, and his musical tastes/experiments in different groups cover a dynamic range where you'd be sure to find something you'd like.

Weezer
They started the whole "emo" scene. The secen isn't my bag (well, I do like the chicks), but their tunes are pretty catchy, reltively intelligent, and witty to boot. Well, their older stuff, anyway.

question: what is "emo"? I used to listen to weezer when I was younger and it is catchy(was?).

any song recommendations for stone temple pilots?

 

[Mrvile]

Tenacious D :thumbsup: if you can handle it

 

[NTB]

Listening to Paul Simon at the moment (slip slidin' away). My taste in music is pretty firmly stuck in a period about 20-40 years past (60s-80s). Beatles, Beach Boys, Eagles, BOC, Van Halen, Steve Miller, ZZ Top, Heart, Toto, Boston, Grateful Dead, Doors, The Who, America, CSN & (sometimes) Y, Rolling Stones, Fleetwood Mac, Silver Bullet Band, Journey, Jackson Browne, Bad Company, and on and on and on...

Nate

 

[SelArom]

for STP: Check out Atlanta from No. 4. Totally wicked awesome song.

and since you're into electronic, check out Venus Hum. They have a really solid sound, but make use of unique sounds, almost symphonic. Check out The Bells, its a powerful, moving song.

-SelArom

 

[glorifiedg790]

Pearl Jam

 

[Cawchy87]

Steve Wynn - Smash Myself to Bits

I probilby like it so much because I associate it with a skate video, but it is an excellent song.

 

[yoda291]

MrVile: What is so special about Tenacious D's music that I might not be able to "handle" it?

NTB: I think we overlap a little in music, have some van morrison queued up here

SelArom: I have never heard of Venus Hum, will have to check it out. Is no.4 a worthwhile album to have/buy or is that song something special?

 

[Mrvile]

Well Tenacious D's lyrics can sometimes be, ah, suggestive, which might offend some people. Most people I know love them, so I doubt you'll have a problem with them, but just a precaution.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by: yoda291

Originally posted by: Jehovah
Stone Temple Pilots, or anything Scott Weiland's been involved in, really (well, other than drugs).
His musical arrangement is outside of the "norm", hence the usual "alternative" title, and his musical tastes/experiments in different groups cover a dynamic range where you'd be sure to find something you'd like.

Weezer
They started the whole "emo" scene. The secen isn't my bag (well, I do like the chicks), but their tunes are pretty catchy, reltively intelligent, and witty to boot. Well, their older stuff, anyway.

question: what is "emo"? I used to listen to weezer when I was younger and it is catchy(was?).

any song recommendations for stone temple pilots?

Emo is an offshoot of Punk/Goth, or something like that - but instead of black, they wear dorky clothes - going for that whole "ironic cool" thing - you dig?

Like I said, it's not my bag, so I'm probably not the person to be asking.

As far as STP/Scott Weiland songs go, here's a few of my recommendations. It's a full palette, but if I *had* to pick the ones I'd listen to first . . . well, they're in bold for ya.

STP (spanning their entire discography)
---
- Plush
- Sex Type Thing
- Interstate Love Song
- Trippin' On A Hole In A Paper Heart
- Vasoline
- A Song For Sleeping
- No Way Out
- Too Cool Queenie
- Big Empty
- Dumb Love
- Wondeful
- Sex and Violence
- Atlanta

Scott Weiland
---
- Barbarella
- Son

Velvet Revolver
---
- ??? I've yet to listen to the whole album.


edit: I'm going to snatch the question about No.4 - it was STP's foray into the harder type of music, and personally, I really like it. But it's not really representative of their style, IMO. I'd say that overall their best album would have to be Purple. A lot of people agree but others might say Core is their best, but I like Purple a little better.

 

[SelArom]

Originally posted by: yoda291
MrVile: What is so special about Tenacious D's music that I might not be able to "handle" it?

NTB: I think we overlap a little in music, have some van morrison queued up here

SelArom: I have never heard of Venus Hum, will have to check it out. Is no.4 a worthwhile album to have/buy or is that song something special?

a lot of people didn't like the album, but I bought it and enjoyed it. in fact i have all the stp albums, and I like them all. core is a must have tho for sure. hey and check out The Complex by the Blue Man Group. That is a totally amazing piece of art, and the show was even better. Venus hum opened for them when I saw them that's how i found out about em.

-SelArom

 

[glorifiedg790]

word of advice - any band named after a piece of geography sucks.

 

[Mrvile]

Originally posted by: glorifiedg790
word of advice - any band named after a piece of geography sucks.

?

 

[cjgallen]

DragonForce - Sonic Firestorm

 

[Cobalt]

Originally posted by: Jehovah
Stone Temple Pilots, or anything Scott Weiland's been involved in (except Velvet Revolver), really (well, other than drugs).
His musical arrangement is outside of the "norm", hence the usual "alternative" title, and his musical tastes/experiments in different groups cover a dynamic range where you'd be sure to find something you'd like.

Weezer
They started the whole "emo" scene. The secen isn't my bag (well, I do like the chicks), but their tunes are pretty catchy, reltively intelligent, and witty to boot. Well, their older stuff, anyway.

others I'm going to mention without explanations;

- Ben Folds Five
- Veruca Salt
- Tenacious D
- Jimmy Eat World
- White Stripes
- Local H
- Jet

This one might be a stretch, but;

-Goldfinger

 

[JoeKing]

Radiohead "Pablo Honey"
Smashing Pumpkins "Siamese Dream"
Muse "Showbiz"
Nirvana

and why? Because it's good. Just listen and you will see.

 

[NTB]

Originally posted by: glorifiedg790
word of advice - any band named after a piece of geography sucks.

like what? Kansas? Boston? America? Chicago?

Nate

 

[yoda291]

funny aside, I had an AIM convo that went like:
me: Hey, have you ever heard of "atlanta"?
him: the city?
me: the song...stone temple pilots.
him: check your email in like 5 minutes. no talky dooey.

he's emailing me like a bagillion flacs. hahaha. I'm listening to Tripping on a hole right now, there's a really nice instrumental piece about 2 minutes in I like. It's definitely not the kind of music I'm used to...but it could grow on me.

I just ordered blue man group - complex and and stp - core off recommendations. (I knew those gift cards my aunts kept buying would come in handy).

JoeKing - not until you listen to sam cooke, buddy holly, and Ratty - Sunrise. Overall, I don't like smashing pumpkins or nirvana much at all...so your other choices are a little iffy.

cjgallen - who the heck is that?

 

[JoeKing]

Originally posted by: yoda291
JoeKing - not until you listen to sam cooke, buddy holly, and Ratty - Sunrise. Overall, I don't like smashing pumpkins or nirvana much at all...so your other choices are a little iffy.

You perfer classic rock by the sound of your picks. I'm giving you a sample of the greatest modern rock. Your ears haven't heard until you've listened through Pablo Honey and Siamese Dream.

Muse is often reffered to as a "harder" version of Radiohead. To some extent I agree. But think of their sound more a Radiohead ala Pablo Honey. They're poised to breakout in the US soon.

The Nirvana, well, it usually comes down to either you love em or hate em. But damn man you've gotta admire them. They created a new sound! And while the songs may seem simplistic the depth in the music is there.

But for peak sake man you said you want to hear good new music, at the very least listen to Pablo Honey. And please check out the Pumpkins "Cherub Rock", the first song on Siamese Dreams. The pumpkins sound was far diffrent than most of the recent stuff they released before the break up.

 

[yoda291]

Originally posted by: JoeKing

Originally posted by: yoda291
JoeKing - not until you listen to sam cooke, buddy holly, and Ratty - Sunrise. Overall, I don't like smashing pumpkins or nirvana much at all...so your other choices are a little iffy.

You perfer classic rock by the sound of your picks. I'm giving you a sample of the greatest modern rock. Your ears haven't heard until you've listened through Pablo Honey and Siamese Dream.

Muse is often reffered to as a "harder" version of Radiohead. To some extent I agree. But think of their sound more a Radiohead ala Pablo Honey. They're poised to breakout in the US soon.

The Nirvana, well, it usually comes down to either you love em or hate em. But damn man you've gotta admire them. They created a new sound! And while the songs may seem simplistic the depth in the music is there.

But for peak sake man you said you want to hear good new music, at the very least listen to Pablo Honey. And please check out the Pumpkins "Cherub Rock", the first song on Siamese Dreams. The pumpkins sound was far diffrent than most of the recent stuff they released before the break up.

I think you missed my point. My point being that it seems unlikely that I'd enjoy any of those music suggestions and that you haven't provided any convincing reason that I would/should. Indeed, you expressly refused to. The reason I asked that people explain why a particular song would appeal to me and get my foot wedged into a new genre is to avoid the fanboi-ism that pervades everything. Otherwise, I'm sure some fool would come in here spouting how I should listen to eminem and all other music sucks or that 50 cent is the greatest thing since sliced bread and I must be a madman to be listening to all this old stuff. So when you post that I should listen to band A B and C because you said so...you'll have to forgive me if I don't whip out the credit card immediately and starting pulling down plastic. Essentially, you're just telling me the music YOU enjoy and assuming that because you enjoy it, I simply must. Therefore, I reciprocate. I enjoy listening to the beatles and buddy holly, therefore, you must immediately love it. What I need is more, why is so-and-so good music?

The music I like is music that stands on its own merits and I'm generally of the impression that pretty much everything put out nowadays is garbage. I used to think house music was all derivative and just the same *thump**thump**thump**thump* until someone showed me that I was wrong and it was just bad sound systems and bad song selection that caused that stereotype. For instance, once you get past the weed culture stereotype, Hendrix is an absolutely brilliant musician. Once you get past the Xtasy popping party culture, you'll find lots of people like Sandra Collins or Flip and Fill produce some really good house and trance music.

For instance, I've just spent the past hour or so listening to stone temple pilots and already I can tell there's going to be a lot of their music I will never like. But there are a few which I am enjoying. I'm well aware that I'll probably never really develop a fondness for any suggestion here over what I already enjoy, but the whole point of this exercize is to at least be able to appreciate and enjoy other things and realize that not everything put out in the past 2 decades blows. Plus, you never know...I used to hate electronic music.

PS - my personal opinion of Nirvana is that they are to rock music what britney spears is to pop music (OMGWTF Crucify him!!!). Cobain was, in my estimation, an above average musician, but he wasn't doing anything that hadn't been done before and, arguably, done better. Hell, every other non-musical word out of his mouth was some angsty protest that he had sold out his "culture" and was being unoriginal. The only difference was, he was a marketing juggernaut. Spears is the same, she hasn't done anything that hadn't been done before, if not much better, by madonna, paula abdul, mariah, so on and so forth, the only diff, she's a marketing supernova.

 

[Ryan]

Imani p0wnm3s j00!!!