Mueller

[Younigue]

I know it's kind of hard for P&N regulars to put two and two together and all, but this article should clear things up a bit.

Bottom line is that the FBI failed to vet any of its information and sources. Steele lied to them, and because of their lack of attention to their sources, it wound up causing the FBI to misrepresent their warrant to the FISC.

On top of that, Bruce Ohr was feeding information to the FBI from his wife who worked for Fusion GPS. That information was also coming from Steele.

This means the warrant is essentially illegal. What the FBI presented to the court as three separate sources, was actually just one source, which was not vetted. James Comey and Andrew 'Andy' McCabe signed the documents asserting the veracity of information being given to the FISC to justify the warrants.

I find it disingenuous to think that the FBI would not vet its sources to spy on someone associated with a presidential campaign, unless they thought the FISA 'secret' court documents would never be revealed. If they failed to do that in this case, it was intentional.

That will probably kill the entire case, Page will probably win a civil suit, and Flynn's case will probably get dismissed.

Think not? From The Hill : "Ohr’s failure to notify the Department of Justice at any point about his and his wife’s relationships with the target of a congressional investigation and possibly a target of a Department of Justice investigation compares to one of the issues Mueller’s team used to get Michael Flynn to plead guilty: a failure to disclose meetings and relationships to federal authorities."


So on the back of all this, perhaps this makes more sense :

Mueller team seeks delay in Flynn sentencing
Now, if you want to dig further, look at who Natalia Veselnitskaya is, who does she work for? That's right, a law firm working for Fusion GPS.

Fusion GPS was paid by a law firm for work on behalf of a Kremlin-linked oligarch while paying former British spy Christopher Steele

Now this is my speculation, but I think it's pretty clear what happened. Fusion GPS was being funded by a Russian oligarch, and was used to feed the Trump Dossier to the DNC/Hillary campaign. At the same time, they tried to feed information to Trump on Hillary.

Guess which one bought it, and which one didn't? Which side colluded with Russia again?

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/7/christopher-steeles-trump-dossier-info-led-fbi-mis/

LOL!

 

[UNCjigga]

Easy, he wasn't a liberal with a vagina.

FTFY

Every single attack on Clinton has already been exposed for what it really is...blatant hypocrisy. Trump is so much worse, but you guys are so far off the deep end you can never concede it, no matter what he does in the next 3-7 years.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Yeh, Putin & his mind benders hate Hillary so we all should, obviously. Cuz buttery males, Benghazi & that pizza parlor thing.

Putin loved Hillary, she's one of his enablers and an easy mark for him.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Hillary Clinton is your superior human being in every perceivable way. Think of a quality that defines you as a person. She does it better.
Subhuman to HRC, maybe that is why you hate her so much. It is envy.

Well she can certainly get away with far more crimes and she's proven it time after time. Most people that destroy subpoenaed documents get convicted. She's basically a grossly negligent kind of person.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

FTFY

I'm a douche and a liar

FTFY

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Putin loved Hillary, she's one of his enablers and an easy mark for him.

So much wrong with this statement
Why was the Russian hack targeted on the DNC
Why did Jeb! & Rubio get hacked or probed by the Russians
Why was a Russian operative sent to Trump tower
Wikileaks explain it please
Why has President Trump not enacted the new sanctions on Russia
Why has President Trump to this very day not said anything negative of Russia?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

And why the fuck will there be a record number of Russians here and before you say it read the article the cap on the number of Russian invites was tripled or at minimum raised substantially

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/07/politics/russia-delegation-washington-prayer-breakfast/index.html

Get over your Hillary hate, she lost deal with it
BTW: I’m still waiting for her to be charged.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/14/obama-era-russian-uranium-one-deal-what-to-know.html

 

[Victorian Gray]

Putin loved Hillary, she's one of his enablers and an easy mark for him.

Vladi and the emperor just love ya to bits when you pull this shit. Doing your damnedest to help them destroy modern American civil society and not even expecting to get paid for it. As an idiot, you just can't get any more 'useful' than that.

 

[Jhhnn]

Putin loved Hillary, she's one of his enablers and an easy mark for him.

Yeh, that's why they slimed the Hell out of her, right?

 

[Younigue]

Putin loved Hillary, she's one of his enablers and an easy mark for him.

Holy shit you're stupid!

 

[shady28]

So much wrong with this statement
Why was the Russian hack targeted on the DNC
Why did Jeb! & Rubio get hacked or probed by the Russians
Why was a Russian operative sent to Trump tower
Wikileaks explain it please
Why has President Trump not enacted the new sanctions on Russia
Why has President Trump to this very day not said anything negative of Russia?

Meanwhile in the real world...

Trump bombs Russian backed Syrian forces :

US jets bomb 'pro-regime' forces in Syria

Perhaps the correct question is, why did the DNC / Hillary campaign and the FBI investigate Trump based on a Dossier provided by a company funded by a Russian Oligarch?

Forbes :

The Fusion-Steele matter is explosive because it suggests that Russia’s most damaging intervention in the 2016 campaign may have been its creation of the Steele Dossier, remarkably paid for by the Clinton campaign! If so, the Clinton campaign (not Trump) was the prime sponsor of Russia’s intervention in the 2016 election.​

 

[shady28]

Oh and it gets better....

Uranium One informant makes Clinton allegations in testimony

An FBI informant connected to the Uranium One controversy told three congressional committees in written testimony that Moscow routed millions of dollars to America with the expectation it would be used to benefit Bill Clinton's charitable efforts while Secretary of State Hillary Clinton quarterbacked a “reset” in US-Russian relations.

 

[Jhhnn]

Taj is so cute when he Gish gallops.

Meanwhile in the real world...

Trump bombs Russian backed Syrian forces :

US jets bomb 'pro-regime' forces in Syria

Perhaps the correct question is, why did the DNC / Hillary campaign and the FBI investigate Trump based on a Dossier provided by a company funded by a Russian Oligarch?

Forbes :

The Fusion-Steele matter is explosive because it suggests that Russia’s most damaging intervention in the 2016 campaign may have been its creation of the Steele Dossier, remarkably paid for by the Clinton campaign! If so, the Clinton campaign (not Trump) was the prime sponsor of Russia’s intervention in the 2016 election.​

None of which explains the massive Russian propaganda effort to get Trump elected. You know- the verifiable hacking, the trolls, the bots, the ads. That happened. That's from private cyber security experts, the FBI, the IC, Twitter, Facebook & congressional committees. Or just go with right wing conspiracy theorists in defiance of that.

 

[jackstar7]

Sanctions, Sanctions, where are you?

 

[UNCjigga]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/14/obama-era-russian-uranium-one-deal-what-to-know.html

LOL.
https://youtu.be/8vCjyWlpmEY

 

[UNCjigga]

Meanwhile in the real world...

Trump bombs Russian backed Syrian forces :

US jets bomb 'pro-regime' forces in Syria

Perhaps the correct question is, why did the DNC / Hillary campaign and the FBI investigate Trump based on a Dossier provided by a company funded by a Russian Oligarch?

Forbes :

The Fusion-Steele matter is explosive because it suggests that Russia’s most damaging intervention in the 2016 campaign may have been its creation of the Steele Dossier, remarkably paid for by the Clinton campaign! If so, the Clinton campaign (not Trump) was the prime sponsor of Russia’s intervention in the 2016 election.​

LOL, your Paul Gregory link from June 2017 is hilarious. The same Paul Gregory who's gone completely silent since the Nunes memo fizzled out.

 

[Younigue]

LOL.
https://youtu.be/8vCjyWlpmEY

Agreed!

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Meanwhile in the real world...

Trump bombs Russian backed Syrian forces :

US jets bomb 'pro-regime' forces in Syria

Perhaps the correct question is, why did the DNC / Hillary campaign and the FBI investigate Trump based on a Dossier provided by a company funded by a Russian Oligarch?

Forbes :

The Fusion-Steele matter is explosive because it suggests that Russia’s most damaging intervention in the 2016 campaign may have been its creation of the Steele Dossier, remarkably paid for by the Clinton campaign! If so, the Clinton campaign (not Trump) was the prime sponsor of Russia’s intervention in the 2016 election.​

Oh and it gets better....

Uranium One informant makes Clinton allegations in testimony

Nice Alt Taj
I’ve asked before, when is she going to be charged? Your boys control everything right now, when can I expect her to be charged?
If she isn’t at least charged with a crime should I assume she is innocent or your boys are grossly incompetent which is it?

 

[cytg111]

Putin loved Hillary, she's one of his enablers and an easy mark for him.

Thats it. Demeted, retarded or straight up trolling. Take a pick.

 

[Puffnstuff]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/14/obama-era-russian-uranium-one-deal-what-to-know.html

Stop posting propaganda and use a neutral source.
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

 

[cytg111]

We have to come around to the fact that taj has been fully radicalized.

 

[brycejones]

Thats it. Demeted, retarded or straight up trolling. Take a pick.

Must be tajbot. Why can't it be all 3?

 

[mikeymikec]

Trump supporters, I have a puzzle for you.

Two of you are suggesting that the Steele dossier (which was part of the basis for the Russia investigation) is a load of BS: completed unvetted, biased with partisan motives, to the point that they should not have been able to get a warrant and the fact that their investigation is based on it shows that the FBI are also biased to the point of loss of objectivity.

Cast your minds back to the day when Trump admitted on the record to obstructing justice: that he fired Comey to impede the Russia investigation: http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/trump-admits-comey-firing-related-to-russia-probe-943201347824

What followed was the appointment of Mueller as special counsel. Let me draw your attention to this quote from a conservative media source:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/former-fbi-director-robert-mueller-appointed-special-prosecutor/

Republicans and Democrats alike have praised Mr Mueller as someone widely respected for his integrity and independence.

and

Mueller is a great selection. Impeccable credentials. Should be widely accepted.

First of all, Trump firing Comey: Do you think that his fellow Republicans either turned a blind eye to this, not bothering to even acquire a vague idea of what basis there might be for a connection between Trump and the Russia investigation as part of a check and balance to ensure that to the best of their knowledge and belief that Trump was not obstructing justice, then they would then do nothing as the investigation rolls on, then after the arrests come (being a sure-fire sign that there is some substance to the Russia investigation unless you honestly believe that a man who enjoyed bipartisan support for what must be the FBI's most important and high-profile investigation wouldn't pay sufficient attention to ensure his cases against each are watertight, because any mistake by the FBI in this investigation would cast further doubt on their competence and objectivity), then the Republicans start paying attention to the Russia investigation and decide that the dossier is BS?

Or do you believe that after Comey's dismissal by Trump, the Republicans did their jobs as they should by looking over the basis of the investigation, somehow decided that Trump wasn't guilty of obstruction of justice yet also decided that there is sufficient reason for the investigation to continue, then after the arrests come they then decide that the dossier is BS?

 

[Amused]

Followers of right-wing media remind me of followers of doomsday preachers.

Predictions and facts nearly consistently proved incorrect. Going through the history of Fox, Jones, etc shows well over a decade of utterly wrong propaganda.

From death panels to FEMA camps to martial law to Clinton death lists to a bad Obama economy to a conspiracy to hide unemployment... And the list could go on for days.

All easily proved wrong on the facts or by the test of time.

And yet... They keep watching.

Why?