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I don't understand the big deal with the FISA court issue given that in the entire history of FISA warrants there has only been one rejected request ever. What exactly is the argument they are trying to make?

It appears the old saying about grand jury indictments and ham sandwiches is probably analogous to FISA court warrants.
It's not supposed to be that easy to get a FISA warrant and in this particular case the FBI lied to the Judges by omitting the fact it was Hillary Clinton (the Democratic Party nominee) and the DNC that paid for the dossier and were seeking investigation into a member (or ex member) of the Republican nominees campaign and that by doing so got access to the Republican nominees records.
 

mikeymikec

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Not sure, last time I checked in, you were claiming that President Trump was obstructing justice by hiring a defense attorney or something. You'll have to remind me exactly what alleged remark President Trump made that made it appear to you he obstructed justice or colluded with the Russians or invited aliens to feast on his enemies.

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/mueller.2536183/page-5#post-39297169
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/mueller.2536183/page-6#post-39297991
 

Jhhnn

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It's not supposed to be that easy to get a FISA warrant and in this particular case the FBI lied to the Judges by omitting the fact it was Hillary Clinton (the Democratic Party nominee) and the DNC that paid for the dossier and were seeking investigation into a member (or ex member) of the Republican nominees campaign and that by doing so got access to the Republican nominees records.

Hillary didn't seek anything. The FBI did. And, uhh, what records do you speak of, Kimosabe? Did the FBI give them to the evil Hillary, or what?

That's one of your lamest obfuscations yet.
 
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It's not supposed to be that easy to get a FISA warrant and in this particular case the FBI lied to the Judges by omitting the fact it was Hillary Clinton (the Democratic Party nominee) and the DNC that paid for the dossier and were seeking investigation into a member (or ex member) of the Republican nominees campaign and that by doing so got access to the Republican nominees records.
Hillary didn't seek anything. The FBI did. And, uhh, what records do you speak of, Kimosabe? Did the FBI give them to the evil Hillary, or what?

That's one of your lamest obfuscations yet.

I’ll take that. Hillary goes to jail along with Trump Jr for taking foreign goods as opposition reasearch.
Count me in that’s a great deal.
 

zinfamous

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It's not supposed to be that easy to get a FISA warrant and in this particular case the FBI lied to the Judges by omitting the fact it was Hillary Clinton (the Democratic Party nominee) and the DNC that paid for the dossier and were seeking investigation into a member (or ex member) of the Republican nominees campaign and that by doing so got access to the Republican nominees records.

Still no idea why this actually matters (by the way: it doesn't. it never would. And you you know it). If the information is credible, it's credible. That's it. nothing more to discuss. OMG!: actual opposition research against a known crook turned up credible evidence that the known crook is really a crook! "But Oh dear me!...I can't possibly give this credible information to the authorities...because they might think I am biased for not liking a known crook! The credible information is suddenly invalid because it touched my oh-so-wrong hands! Oh dear, Here come the vapors!" /faints

Nune's dumbass memo even admitted that the dossier was further corroborated by a second, independent investigation, and further admits that the dossier did not initiate the investigation.

Those are known facts. Why do you insist that known facts are false? Why does your legion of retards--all republicans--insist on inventing this standard of bias where it has ever existed? You have literally marched down the avenue of creating novel rules that you and only you believe that the FBI and Law Enforcement must now follow. What a standard for the world to have to revolve around your protean notions of law and justice.
 

Amused

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sportage

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In this Trump coup, we've living in Alice in Wonderland.
Big things are small, little now large, up is down, right is left, and YOU are stuck in the big hole.
I'd say, put your hopes into the next two election cycles, 2018 and 2020.
But tragically, even that might no longer be doable.
Its like a cancer. How far has it spread, how deep is the invasion, is there any healthy tissue remaining?
How far has the coup spread? How deep is the invasion? Are there any healthy levels of government remaining?

On another matter, I myself have been studying repercussions of this new Trump tax law.
What is to come in this tax year 2018 and following years will shock middle class taxpayers.
And you thought you were getting a break.....?
Just wait. This will be most interesting and quite the eye opener to say the least.
Details, the devil is in the details as they say.
Details most have no idea of within this tax rewrite.
But... another day for all of that.
 
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