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Much to my surprise, Acupuncture is drastically reducing my allergies

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I sprained my ankle one time playing basketball and I was unable to put any pressure or walk. My father recommended acupuncture and I walked out of the clinic. Placebo my ass.
 
Dacalo said:
I sprained my ankle one time playing basketball and I was unable to put any pressure or walk. My father recommended acupuncture and I walked out of the clinic. Placebo my ass.
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So acupuncture can both cure allergies and mend sprained muscles? I don't get it - what's being applied by the procedure to produce these two very different outcomes?
 
While I find it difficult to believe that acupuncture has any therapeutic effects, as long as they don't stick those damn needles in your chest and cause a pneumothorax, more power to you.

Seriously though, I've heard of more than one acupuncturist causing a pneumothorax, so be careful...
 
Dacalo said:
I sprained my ankle one time playing basketball and I was unable to put any pressure or walk. My father recommended acupuncture and I walked out of the clinic. Placebo my ass.
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An hour lying down (feet elevated) with someone massaging your ankle is more than enough to explain the effect.
 
I have never had accupuncture so cannot comment with any personal knowledge on its success, but to dismiss it as a crock based on study's from the AMA (who have an obvious bias) and other organizations seems a bit silly.

It's like the AMA study's that show chiropractic medicine to be bunk too, which I can say WITH personal experience is completely not true.
 
ShadowOfMyself said:
Exactly

I dont really trust all that alternative medicine stuff, but if the OP says it worked, why wouldnt I believe it? He said right there that he thought it would do nothing, but went for it anyway, so it cant be placebo
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You wouldn't believe it because it's not supported by any evidence. If I told you I'm possessed by the ghost of Jimi Hendrix and he cured my [insert ailment here] with his magic ghost powers would you believe it?
 
Slick5150 said:
I have never had accupuncture so cannot comment with any personal knowledge on its success, but to dismiss it as a crock based on study's from the AMA (who have an obvious bias) and other organizations seems a bit silly.

It's like the AMA study's that show chiropractic medicine to be bunk too, which I can say WITH personal experience is completely not true.
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This!

Like someone said earlier, if it works for you great! If it doesn't then it doesn't. I've never tried it myself but I would never dismiss something because someone says it doesn't work (without any personal experience themselves and within reason).

Unfortunately, sheep will always be sheep
 
MrDudeMan said:
As usual, ATOT brings out some of the biggest trolls on the internet.

The OP didn't come here to sell anything and is not pushing his opinion. Many of you, however, are doing exactly the opposite. He shared an experience and you can feel free to have any opinion you want about it, but pretending like you actually know something to disprove his experience is ridiculous when he clearly stated it is doing something for him. It matters not whether it is really changing his body; his symptoms have subsided and that's all there is to it.
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Come on.... It's ATOT..... Who cares what the content of his post contains? We're here to tell him he's wrong, pick apart his details, and ignore the base subject of the post.
 
It isn't a placebo if he never had an expectation of it working prior to entering. Placebo would be having him now go to another "Acupuncturist" who doesn't actually stick him with any needles.

However if something like acupuncture or faith healing does work for someone, with little understanding of why, it can still be dangerous to them. For instance, take the guy who had a sprained foot, let's say that acupuncture just treats the pain, somehow blocks a pain receptor so that he can walk out fine. He thinks he's fine, but what he doesn't realize is his sprain was really a break that wasn't properly diagnosed and now it is going to heal terribly wrong. You have to be very careful treating a 'symptom' without treating the 'cause'.

With Aphex's issue, he has a very valid way of testing his issue. If his throat doesn't swell up, eyes water, or whatever, then it is resolved. He should probably try dropping the acupuncture just to see what happens. If all he is going for is the relaxation at this point, maybe a massage would be money better spent.
 
My brother's wife is a practicing MD. She also gives lectures on acupuncture.

She has performed acupuncture on my other brother (not her husband) several times, and he thinks it works.

She's even tried acupuncture on my dad (another MD) and he thought it worked.

I was feeling really bad one day, and she tried it on me. Fifteen minutes after she pulled out the last needle, I puked my guts out. But then I felt much much better. I don't think she can take credit for that though.
 
I have a cousin in who administers acupuncture at a state hospital in china(legit in terms of hospitals). He does it for a living. Through years of experience and testing on himself, HE believes it's all placebo.
 
TridenT said:
lol, you have won the ignore list.

Every hear of logical fallacies? Probably not, since you are a dumbass... I mean, I've said this like 10+ times now and it's true every time.
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You seem very hostile. Are you really such a smarty pants yourself?
 
are you sure those needles dont contain lead? ive heard that nothing coming out of china is any good

usa usa usa
 
do whatever you want to yourself, but i prefer any treatment on my body to be backed by reason, logic and evidence. otherwise, i might as well pray to god to treat me.
 
Mike Gayner said:
You know how every good study that has ever been done has shown acupuncture to be nothing more than an elaborate placebo? Does this bother you?
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I could be wrong but I thought that for pain relief at any rate it had been shown to have some mild benefits. For everything else yeah I agree.
 
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