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Much to my surprise, Acupuncture is drastically reducing my allergies

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I use a $7 dollar bottle of saline nose spray. No drugs. Just purified water and saline. I haven't had an allergy attack since I started using it at the beginning of this year's spring.
I am pretty much allergic to everything. Dust, pollen, grass, dog and cat dander, etc.
Nothing phases me now. Now I know what spring is like to normal people without allergies.
 
aphex said:
So my wife had been going for months and kept raving about how amazingly relaxing it was. I never believed her until I started going about 2 months ago to see if they could help with my allergies and a little relaxation to boot.

Well, much to my amazement, I was perfectly fine. No sneezing, no itchy throat, no stuffy nose. Nothing. I even let her climb all over me (which I never let her do anymore) and I was fine, not so much as even a sniffle.
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I read only these two paragraphs because your OP is too long.
 
Hey, it worked for Eli Stone! 😉

Seriously though, I think there's a lot to be said for alternative medicine. I'm not one for voodoo, but I don't think Western medicine has all the answers. There's a silly one I use sometimes - you put a banana peel on your forehead when you get a headache:

http://www.healpain.net/articles/banana.html

Surprisingly it actually works. I wouldn't go around telling people that, but try it next time your noggin' starts hurting :awe:
 
Kaido said:
Hey, it worked for Eli Stone! 😉

Seriously though, I think there's a lot to be said for alternative medicine. I'm not one for voodoo, but I don't think Western medicine has all the answers. There's a silly one I use sometimes - you put a banana peel on your forehead when you get a headache:

http://www.healpain.net/articles/banana.html

Surprisingly it actually works. I wouldn't go around telling people that, but try it next time your noggin' starts hurting :awe:
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It works better if you put vegan ketchup on the banana peel before you put it on your forehead 😉 😀
 
TridenT said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5snR...&p=3BA5A5421DF529A9&playnext_from=PL&index=85 May as well do this, guys.
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Inspector Jihad said:
well if agreeing with me is agreeing with evidence based medicine, then yes.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acupuncture#Scientific_theories_and_mechanisms_of_action

Reading wikipedia, it seems to note that there is in fact some evidence for the effectiveness of acupuncture in some situations and that even the NIH says that there might be something to it.

I'm pretty sure no one ever claims its an alternative to medicine, it goes alongside it if the patient chooses.
 
Inspector Jihad said:
i don't mind it as long as people understand its a placebo and not a real alternate to medicine.
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In order to have a placebo effect, an individual has to have an expectation that whatever they are doing is going to have some positive effect. In other words, acupuncture is only a placebo to a person if that person believes it's a real alternative to medicine.

If you absolutely know it's not actually doing anything useful, then you can't have a placebo effect.
 
tenshodo13 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acupuncture#Scientific_theories_and_mechanisms_of_action

Reading wikipedia, it seems to note that there is in fact some evidence for the effectiveness of acupuncture in some situations and that even the NIH says that there might be something to it.

I'm pretty sure no one ever claims its an alternative to medicine, it goes alongside it if the patient chooses.
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From the wiki: a critic's opinion of the NIH's opinion:
the [NIH's] meeting was chaired by a strong proponent of acupuncture, failed to include speakers who had obtained negative results on studies of acupuncture, and the report showed evidence of pseudoscientific reasoning
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So a pro-acupuncture sub-group within the NIH got together and determined, through a lack of any direct research (I assume they were using a weegie board), that acupuncture might be beneficial.

That should tell you something when a group of people who think it is beneficial can only officially determine that it might be beneficial.
 
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Mike Gayner said:
That's not what placebo is. You know nothing. As usual.
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You're a douche like usual.

The point is that even if acupuncture does nothing in an objective sense, if it helps people with problems then, on some level what the fuck is the big deal if this guy is getting relief?
 
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I love how all these idiots act like they're experts on the subject.

Here's the thing, numerous studies have been done on acupuncture. Some show that it is more effective than placebo, some don't. I've had western doctors recommend acupuncture. Anyone who says "all the scientific literature shows that acupuncture is a scam" is an ignorant asshole.
 
Mike Gayner said:
OK just keep in mind that the same quacks who have no respect for science or reality probably don't really give a shit about this alleged "germ theory" thing. I doubt those needles are all that clean.
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Why do you hump sheep then? it does nothing.
 
GaryJohnson said:
In order to have a placebo effect, an individual has to have an expectation that whatever they are doing is going to have some positive effect. In other words, acupuncture is only a placebo to a person if that person believes it's a real alternative to medicine.

If you absolutely know it's not actually doing anything useful, then you can't have a placebo effect.
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Exactly

I dont really trust all that alternative medicine stuff, but if the OP says it worked, why wouldnt I believe it? He said right there that he thought it would do nothing, but went for it anyway, so it cant be placebo
 
As usual, ATOT brings out some of the biggest trolls on the internet.

The OP didn't come here to sell anything and is not pushing his opinion. Many of you, however, are doing exactly the opposite. He shared an experience and you can feel free to have any opinion you want about it, but pretending like you actually know something to disprove his experience is ridiculous when he clearly stated it is doing something for him. It matters not whether it is really changing his body; his symptoms have subsided and that's all there is to it.
 
MrDudeMan said:
As usual, ATOT brings out some of the biggest trolls on the internet.

The OP didn't come here to sell anything and is not pushing his opinion. Many of you, however, are doing exactly the opposite. He shared an experience and you can feel free to have any opinion you want about it, but pretending like you actually know something to disprove his experience is ridiculous when he clearly stated it is doing something for him. It matters not whether it is really changing his body; his symptoms have subsided and that's all there is to it.
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