Mozilla CEO Resigns Under Pressure

[Virgorising]

YAY!!! ALL bigotry is pernicious. and hurts all of us.

And this, boys and girls, is how Capitalism is posed to work: We are the Deciders.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-anti-gay-moz_n_5085006.html

 

[Platypus]

As someone directly impacted by his viewpoints, I think this is incredibly wrong and an example of reverse bullying/mob mentality.

If his viewpoints impacted mozilla products or culture at all, sure, but they don't and this sets a very, very dangerous standard that I am not comfortable with at all.

 

[KeithTalent]

Seems like bullying to me and I thought bullying was considered bad these days. Don't agree with the guy at all, but I hate the internet lynching that seems to be so common place these days.

KT

Edit: also, what Platypus said.

 

[Virgorising]

As someone directly impacted by his viewpoints, I think this is incredibly wrong and an example of reverse bullying/mob mentality. If his viewpoints impacted mozilla products or culture at all, sure, but they don't and this sets a very, very dangerous standard that I am not comfortable with at all.

As they say, if U don stand for sumthin, you'll stand for anything.

And, if you can't identify with members of oppressed, discriminated against groups, sorry, that means you have no empathy beyond some miniscule thimble. It means you are tacitly endorsing something that is the enemy of all of us.

What people do matters. But not as much as WHO THEY ARE and where they are coming from, and what they Bring, given the latter impact what they DO.

 

[Virgorising]

As someone directly impacted by his viewpoints, I think this is incredibly wrong and an example of reverse bullying/mob mentality.

If his viewpoints impacted mozilla products or culture at all, sure, but they don't and this sets a very, very dangerous standard that I am not comfortable with at all.

Methinks you are wrongly identifying the nuclear LYNCHER/HATER HEREIN.

 

[Jeeebus]

Everyone is entitled to their personal beliefs... unless we disagree with them, and then they must suffer.

Agree 100% with Plat - I don't agree with this guy's beliefs, but unless the Mozilla homepage suddenly became an anti-gay platform or pro-LGBT websites were somehow not displaying on Firefox, then it is both sad and dangerous that this happened.

 

[BlitzPuppet]

ugh

Props to the guy for stepping down though. I'm sure he's a pretty good dude that just got steamrolled by idiots on the internet.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

I'm with Platypus. I was raised by gay parents, and the fact that they couldn't legally marry did have a harmful impact at certain points of their lives. That said, even though I disagree with Eich's views, I support his right to have them, and donate to political causes that support his viewpoint. It's not like he ever used Mozilla or Javascript as a platform for preaching intolerance, nor publicized his views on gay marriage; someone had to go digging through his past to uncover this donation. Supporting his firing is supporting the rights of employers to fire you for things they find on Facebook; equally absurd. Since when did private lives and business lives become inextricably intertwined?

 

[momeNt]

We took a step back as a nation today.

I'm calling on congress to work on passing a right to opinion and freedom from consequence law, this law would protect people to not only have certain protected opinions, but also be legally entitled to no change in their condition as a result of having that protected opinion.

The opinions that we would protect as a nation would obviously be fair and sensible, like being against SSM would be protected, but being against biracial marriages would not. Being for or against abortion would be a protected opinion as well.

 

[BikeJunkie]

Everyone is entitled to their personal beliefs... unless we disagree with them

Yep

 

[ultimatebob]

It's all well and good until someone crucifies YOU for having an opinion on a topic outside of the mainstream.

I might not agree with this guy's politics, but the way he got trashed in the online media was disgraceful. It's cyberbullying at it's ugliest.

If I was the CEO of Mozilla, I would have made them force me out. And then I would have sued them for wrongful termination, and sued OKCupid for defamation of character.

 

[Platypus]

As they say, if U don stand for sumthin, you'll stand for anything.

And, if you can't identify with members of oppressed, discriminated against groups, sorry, that means you have no empathy beyond some miniscule thimble. It means you are tacitly endorsing something that is the enemy of all of us.

What people do matters. But not as much as WHO THEY ARE and where they are coming from, and what they Bring, given the latter impact what they DO.

what an incredibly sad and myopic post, none of this is even remotely true and frankly it's embarrassing.

 

[Platypus]

It's all well and good until someone crucifies YOU for having an opinion on a topic outside of the mainstream.

I might not agree with this guy's politics, but the way he got trashed in the online media was disgraceful. It's cyberbullying at it's ugliest.

If I was the CEO of Mozilla, I would have made them force me out. And then I would have sued them for wrongful termination, and sued OKCupid for defamation of character.

He likely stepped down due to the potential backlash against donations for the project and that's commendable. It's pathetic that misplaced mob justice forced his hand.

 

[purbeast0]

fucking hate firefox. fixing a bug in it right now where bootstrap stuff looks perfectly fine on chrome but on firefox it's being a wise and beautiful woman as usual. pos browser.

 

[Virgorising]

what an incredibly sad and myopic post, none of this is even remotely true and frankly it's embarrassing.

I stand proudly by every single word, not one of which I have come to cavalierly.

 

[Virgorising]

I am wondering, with the premise some here may be big gun fans, if a given CEO were pro active re gun control, what the response would have been?

 

[ultimatebob]

That said, Firefox has kinda sucked for the past few years. I've had so many problems due to broken plugins over the past 15 or so version upgrades.

 

[SlowSpyder]

This is what happens in high profile positions, right or wrong. It isn't exactly a secret.

 

[Virgorising]

It's all well and good until someone crucifies YOU for having an opinion on a topic outside of the mainstream.

This is NOT about THE MAINSTREAM. This about not endorsing, and railing against actual evil as consumers with free speech, a luminous, mostly intact American privilege, as per our FOUNDERS.

Again, all species of bigotry are the same, the given categorical target is moot. And all species are equally evil.
Even in my famously progressive city, violent hate crimes still abound.

 

[lxskllr]

I was pissed about their new interface changes, but they're fixed with an addon. I don't agree with offloading customization to addons, but right now I'm happy enough.

 

[Jeeebus]

This is NOT about THE MAINSTREAM. This about not endorsing/railing against actual evil.

Again, all species of bigotry are the same, the given categorical target is moot. And all species are equally evil.

For the sake of curiosity, what country are you from?

 

[halik]

Everyone is entitled to their personal beliefs... unless we disagree with them, and then they must suffer.

Agree 100% with Plat - I don't agree with this guy's beliefs, but unless the Mozilla homepage suddenly became an anti-gay platform or pro-LGBT websites were somehow not displaying on Firefox, then it is both sad and dangerous that this happened.

Second. Wholeheartedly agree. Preaching tolerance, unless it's a view you disagree with.

 

[crashtestdummy]

I'm with the consensus here. It's thoroughly depressing to me that he had to step down over this. I completely disagree with his viewpoint on the topic, but it had no effect on the company. We shouldn't be able to ostracize people just because of their political views.

All the people clamoring for his downfall would be equally horrified if a CEO who gave money to planned parenthood were kicked out over backlash. There's little difference in my view.

 

[ultimatebob]

This is NOT about THE MAINSTREAM. This about not endorsing/railing against actual evil.

Again, all species of bigotry are the same, the given categorical target is moot. And all species are equally evil.

The 1st Amendment says that he has the right to think how he wants to think, whether it be about not supporting gay marriage or supporting the marriage of farm animals.

In this case, there were millions of people who agreed (and likely still agree) with him. Do you want to destroy their careers as well?

 

[ImpulsE69]

This is an interesting twist really.

The guy was basically anti gay. Makes it hard to try to protect freedom of beliefs or speech when your belief basically oppresses others freedoms? It's like people picking and choosing what they believe in the bible.

I do think that what you do outside work should not impact work as long as YOU don't let it, but the new reality of the world is that just isn't the case. Everyone is watching everyone else and in everyone's business just waiting to tell on them.

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