Mozilla CEO Resigns Under Pressure

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waggy

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meh. I don't give a shit he donated money to something he felt needed it. that is his right.

I don't give a shit that people complained about. that is there right.

I understand why he was fired. I do think less of the company though. I would have far more respect if they came out and said while we don't agree with him we will defend his right to to speech and not bow down to peoples whims over what they agree or not agree with.
 

waggy

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Yeah, because that forum needs yet another poster who tries to sound intelligent by using words that he clearly doesn't understand, posts total nonsense (mothership essence?), and generally can't string together two coherent thoughts.

That's EXACTLY what P&N needs.

as brianham said..he will fit right in..:biggrin:
 

OVerLoRDI

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It's all well and good until someone crucifies YOU for having an opinion on a topic outside of the mainstream.

I might not agree with this guy's politics, but the way he got trashed in the online media was disgraceful. It's cyberbullying at it's ugliest.

If I was the CEO of Mozilla, I would have made them force me out. And then I would have sued them for wrongful termination, and sued OKCupid for defamation of character.

Yep.

This is a bad precedent. Especially since it appears that his personal views had zero effect on the company, its employees, or its products. This is just straight bullying.
 

lxskllr

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Yeah, because that forum needs yet another poster who tries to sound intelligent by using words that he clearly doesn't understand, posts total nonsense (mothership essence?), and generally can't string together two coherent thoughts.

That's EXACTLY what P&N needs.

Try it in the technical forums. It's the equivalent of using a paint brush, calligraphy, and Roman numerals to communicate engineering :^S
 

Virgorising

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Yeah, because that forum needs yet another poster who tries to sound intelligent by using words that he clearly doesn't understand, posts total nonsense (mothership essence?), and generally can't string together two coherent thoughts. That's EXACTLY what P&N needs.

When YOU pay taxes as I just did for a change, on the income YOU make from writing exposition, get back to me.

Shame on you and your poverty; trying to defend against poverty by waging a personal assault confirms the poverty.
 
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WelshBloke

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Especially since it appears that his personal views had zero effect on the company, its employees, or its products. .

That's not actually accurate. Several senior figures resigned because of his views and the companies main product was starting to be blocked from some websites.

Whether you agree with the outcome or not his views were having a detrimental effect on the company.
 

Virgorising

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That's not actually accurate. Several senior figures resigned because of his views and the companies main product was starting to be blocked from some websites.

Whether you agree with the outcome or not his views were having a detrimental effect on the company.

Many thanks for this contribution. Despite, the ignorant bigot/zealots here will exhaust themselves trying to to right click on it and send it to their recycle bins.

A doomed endeavor to be sure. Thank God.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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When you're that high up in the company, what you believe matters for their business. Money is the biggest way you can show that. Having people know they'd be indirectly funding their own disenfranchisement by supporting your product is not good for business. He brought it upon himself although I'm sure he believes his only mistake was having people find out.
 

jpeyton

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This is a bad precedent. Especially since it appears that his personal views had zero effect on the company, its employees, or its products.
Um, I don't think you know what you're talking about. It was affecting his relationship with employees, clients, donors, recruits, and others.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/3/55...ests-forced-mozillas-ceo-to-resign-in-11-days

When you're working for a company in the San Fran Bay Area, with a huge LGBT presence, being a homophobe in the public eye is the kiss of death.
 
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Virgorising

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Um, I don't think you know what you're talking about. It was affecting his relationship with employees, clients, donors, recruits, and others.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/3/55...ests-forced-mozillas-ceo-to-resign-in-11-days

When you're working for a company in the San Fran Bay Area, with a huge LGBT presence, being a homophobe in the public eye is the kiss of death.

:thumbsup:

And it, and anything like it, no matter the target of ignorant haters Should BE a kiss of death by all humans who are the opposite of ignorant haters.

And anyone in this thread who still thinks his only hatred is for gays, is a dilettante/boor who does not chase data.
 
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brianmanahan

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When you're working for a company in the San Fran Bay Area, with a huge LGBT presence, being a homophobe in the public eye is the kiss of death.

thinking that marriage should only be between a man and a woman is different than hating gay people

but a lot of people see it as the same thing
 

jpeyton

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thinking that marriage should only be between a man and a woman is different than hating gay people.
Thinking that your religion's version of marriage is the only version of marriage that matters, and should be written into law (Prop 8) so that people of all religions/non-religions/orientations need to follow your definition...that's incredibly ignorant.

And yes, it means you don't care about the rights of gay people.

Keep your religion in your church or at your home. I don't need it in the state house.

Good article here: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/...ief-had-to-resign/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
 

brianmanahan

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And yes, it means you don't care about the rights of gay people.

I'm fine with a civil union or some other form that's basically the same thing. But I don't consider it the same as an actual marriage between a man and a woman, because that's what the definition of a marriage has always been.

But that's a story for another forum... P&N.
 
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There's a lot of stuff a person could say that would immediately disqualify them for a job more important than shit-shoveler.

"JFK was assassinated by the CIA."

"The only thing I like more than a good quarterly profit report is the spasms of a hookers vagina as I sever her spinal cord with a k-bar."

"God came to me and told me that I had to lead this company down a path of evil in order to bring about the apocalypse!"

"While I do contribute to political campaigns, it is only with the goal of undermining the democratic process and instituting a fourth reich."

Being anti-gay (or pro-family, or whatever euphemism or rationale you prefer) is just moving, slowly, into the category of too-far-outside-the-mainstream-to-be-considered-a-functional-member-of-society.
 

Pulsar

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When YOU pay taxes as I just did for a change, on the income YOU make from writing exposition, get back to me.

Shame on you and your poverty; trying to defend against poverty by waging a personal assault confirms the poverty.

Can someone please translate this into human-speak?
 

akahoovy

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After Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, a reporter was interviewing the mayor at the time and got onto the topic of Roe v. Wade and asked him what he thought about it.

He replied, "I don't give a shit how they get back into the city."
 

BoomerD

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There's a lot of stuff a person could say that would immediately disqualify them for a job more important than shit-shoveler.

"JFK was assassinated by the CIA."

"The only thing I like more than a good quarterly profit report is the spasms of a hookers vagina as I sever her spinal cord with a k-bar."

"God came to me and told me that I had to lead this company down a path of evil in order to bring about the apocalypse!"

"While I do contribute to political campaigns, it is only with the goal of undermining the democratic process and instituting a fourth reich."

Being anti-gay (or pro-family, or whatever euphemism or rationale you prefer) is just moving, slowly, into the category of too-far-outside-the-mainstream-to-be-considered-a-functional-member-of-society.

Gawd-Dammit! I told you that in confidence...:colbert:

(there's just something about those dying quivvers that gets me...)
 

Virgorising

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Thinking that your religion's version of marriage is the only version of marriage that matters, and should be written into law (Prop 8) so that people of all religions/non-religions/orientations need to follow your definition...that's incredibly ignorant. And yes, it means you don't care about the rights of gay people. Keep your religion in your church or at your home. I don't need it in the state house. Good article here: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/0...ype=blogs&_r=0

INDEED!!!!

And again, separation of church and State was Jefferson's CORE MANDATE over time; that is why he truly was THE MOTHERSHIP of what Americans, including the malignant, stunningly ignorant, hater replicants....have the privilege of to this day.

Tho, one could say James Madison was a second Mothership in this re the Bill of Right.
It is also why we who work to get and cherish all of it, must then work ongoing to preclude any of it being eroded by said ignorant hater replicants.

Jefferson and the Bill of Rights[edit]

Main articles: Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause

Thomas Jefferson, the thirdPresident of the United States, whose letter to the Danbury Baptists Association is often quoted in debates regarding the separation of church and state.​

In English, the exact term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state", as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. In that letter, referencing theFirst Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson writes: "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State."[15]
The Bill of Rights was one of the earliest examples in the world of complete religious freedom (adopted in 1791, only preceded by the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen in 1789) but it was interpreted as establishing a separation of Church and State only after the letter of Jefferson (see section United States for more details). At the time of the passage of the Bill of Rights, many states acted in ways that would now be held unconstitutional, some of them with official state churches. All of the early official state churches were disestablished by 1833.
 
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Virgorising

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Quote: Originally Posted by Virgorising View Post When YOU pay taxes as I just did for a change, on the income YOU make from writing exposition, get back to me. Shame on you and your poverty; trying to defend against poverty by waging a personal assault confirms the poverty. Can someone please translate this into human-speak?

Not until you start to earn back the right and privilege to be one. A human.