Mozilla CEO Resigns Under Pressure

[Virgorising]

It's saddening that people actually think this kind of witch hunt is a good thing. Goodbye sweet America.

By all means: defend one who is part of The Problem, and not those victimized by his ilk.

 

[Virgorising]

Yeah, what you are referring to came about in 1964, rather than the time the constitution was framed, and it in fact IS illegal for private enterprise discriminate against "protected classes" (including sexual orientation, per later caselaw) Again, it seems you may be confused about the legal aspect of the topic on hand and come in heavy on the emotional appeal.

Again, try to follow The High Court, starting with which cases it grants cert to. Including right NOW. It's so good to stay involved and current. It's a mandate and a core privilege.

 

[Drako]

By all means: defend one who is part of The Problem, and not those victimized by his ilk.

Who here is defending him? I actually have not seen anyone in thread defending him. How did you read that into my comment at all?

edit: and LOL at "The Problem".

 

[halik]

I honestly asked him what country he was from because I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt that he was from a non-English speaking country. Most of what he has written in this thread is incomprehensible and overly simplistic.

I thought maybe his command of the English language was just poor and that we should cut him some slack. Then when he chimed in with "our founding fathers" it blew that theory out of the water. I guess I'll fall back on that he's simply young, stupid, and incapable of critical thought.

The alternative, that he is an English-speaking adult with a fully developed mind, is too scary for me to accept.

Actually english happens to not be my native tongue either, so I'm usually pretty good at spotting poor grammar structure or awkward/non-native speaker turns of phrases. Not the case here, complex sentence structure and a garden of SAT words = junior high kid.

Agreed on the last point; terrifying.

 

[BoberFett]

This is NOT about THE MAINSTREAM. This about not endorsing, and railing against actual evil as consumers with free speech, a luminous, mostly intact American privilege, as per our FOUNDERS.

Again, all species of bigotry are the same, the given categorical target is moot. And all species are equally evil.
Even in my famously progressive city, violent hate crimes still abound.

I don't like your beliefs and want you fired.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Let's cut to the chase. I care less about Eich 's viewpoint or, the actions of his employees or, internet "backlash " than, I wonder how many bazillion dollars Eich will pocket for his vast contributions to Mozilla.

 

[Virgorising]

No small irony, I just this second got this email! See this? He was a messed up, pernicious INDIVIDUAL....AND NOW, MOZILLA is delineating the specifics!!!

Now, you clueless humans here attacking me....might choose to shift your invective hurling to MOZILLA PER SE.

SHAME ON YOU.

Mozilla stands up for equality Dear Jill,

Today, Mozilla’s Board of Directors and CEO Brendan Eich announced that Eich has decided to step down from the role of chief executive officer, effective immediately. The decision to step down comes after a week of intense backlash against Mozilla over Eich’s past support for efforts to deny equal marriage rights to gays and lesbians.
This is an important moment for the Mozilla community and a critical development in our ongoing fight for equality and the open web. As someone who signed the petition to Mozilla, you made a difference in this fight.
From Mozilla’s official statement:

“Brendan Eich has chosen to step down from his role as CEO. He’s made this decision for Mozilla and our community. Mozilla believes both in equality and freedom of speech. Equality is necessary for meaningful speech. And you need free speech to fight for equality. Figuring out how to stand for both at the same time can be hard.”​

No doubt Mozilla will be viciously attacked by the rightwing for taking this courageous stand.
You can show your support for Mozilla in several ways:

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Here are some suggested tweets:

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It’s important to remember that Mozilla is not a company, it’s a movement supported by tens of thousands of volunteers around the world. Mozilla is a non-profit organization fighting to keep the web open and free for all of us. They put people above profit, and fight for user choice and privacy. Their mission is vitally important to every grassroots movement, including the work that we do here at CREDO.
Read below today’s statement by Mozilla:

Mozilla prides itself on being held to a different standard and, this past week, we didn’t live up to it. We know why people are hurt and angry, and they are right: it’s because we haven’t stayed true to ourselves.

We didn’t act like you’d expect Mozilla to act. We didn’t move fast enough to engage with people once the controversy started. We’re sorry. We must do better.

Brendan Eich has chosen to step down from his role as CEO. He’s made this decision for Mozilla and our community.

Mozilla believes both in equality and freedom of speech. Equality is necessary for meaningful speech. And you need free speech to fight for equality. Figuring out how to stand for both at the same time can be hard.

Our organizational culture reflects diversity and inclusiveness. We welcome contributions from everyone regardless of age, culture, ethnicity, gender, gender-identity, language, race, sexual orientation, geographical location and religious views. Mozilla supports equality for all.

We have employees with a wide diversity of views. Our culture of openness extends to encouraging staff and community to share their beliefs and opinions in public. This is meant to distinguish Mozilla from most organizations and hold us to a higher standard. But this time we failed to listen, to engage, and to be guided by our community.

While painful, the events of the last week show exactly why we need the web. So all of us can engage freely in the tough conversations we need to make the world better.

We need to put our focus back on protecting that Web. And doing so in a way that will make you proud to support Mozilla.

What’s next for Mozilla’s leadership is still being discussed. We want to be open about where we are in deciding the future of the organization and will have more information next week. However, our mission will always be to make the Web more open so that humanity is stronger, more inclusive and more just: that’s what it means to protect the open Web.

We will emerge from this with a renewed understanding and humility — our large, global, and diverse community is what makes Mozilla special, and what will help us fulfill our mission. We are stronger with you involved.

Thank you for sticking with us.

Mitchell Baker, Executive Chairwoman​

Thank you for standing with the Mozilla community against the rightwing attacks that are sure to come in response to their courageous statement today.
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[LevelSea]

bullshit

 

[momeNt]

I'm over it.

 

[BoberFett]

Now, you clueless humans here attacking me....

Because you're a fuckwit who should be fired for your beliefs.

 

[Virgorising]

I don't like your beliefs and want you fired.

Not as clever as you obviously think. Just more dearth of discernment. Know that objective truth exists.

And see below, I pasted an entire email I just received. MOZILLA getws it, and in DETAIL. How come YOU don't?

 

[dougp]

Ah, you guys have been arguing with a woman. We all know how that goes ...

 

[tynopik]

hey Virgorising, answer this one question:

Should people be fired for donating to Planned Parenthood?

I mean, how can we allow baby murderers in a civilized society? Where's the equality for the unborn?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

As someone directly impacted by his viewpoints, I think this is incredibly wrong and an example of reverse bullying/mob mentality.

If his viewpoints impacted mozilla products or culture at all, sure, but they don't and this sets a very, very dangerous standard that I am not comfortable with at all.

Agreed.

 

[Virgorising]

Because you're a fuckwit who should be fired for your beliefs.

Your fine cognition and erudition had me second one. Sarcastic smilie.

 

[Ruptga]

I would. If his views don't affect the product/service he heads, I don't care. If he was head the NAACP. and a Grand Dragon, I'd have a problem with it, but rarely do opposing interests converge like that.

Yep and you're one in a thousand, at the least.

Even then, unless he's using his position as a platform to spread the stuff, I don't see a problem.

Are we gonna start firing people because they like asian fart porn in their spare time?

Everyone that doesn't like asian fart porn all the time should be fired.

I can't tell if you've ignored my point or just don't buy it, so here's another one. If, instead of dying, Fred Phelps had just been appointed Mozilla's CEO, would your opinion change any? How about if Kim Jong-un had a capitalist conversion and wanted to the job instead? What if Joseph Goebbels was thrown through a time warp and wanted to work for Twitter from prison?

Practically every single person has a limit to their tolerance, where's yours?

 

[Virgorising]

I mean, how can we allow baby murderers in a civilized society? Where's the equality for the unborn?

Get back to me when you adopt or subsidize one of the infinite, doomed unwanted babies who did get born to humans in no way capable of parenting.

I will then grant you CERT.

 

[halik]

Yep and you're one in a thousand, at the least.



Everyone that doesn't like asian fart porn all the time should be fired.

I can't tell if you've ignored my point or just don't buy it, so here's another one. If, instead of dying, Fred Phelps had just been appointed Mozilla's CEO, would your opinion change any? How about if Kim Jong-un had a capitalist conversion and wanted to the job instead? What if Joseph Goebbels was thrown through a time warp and wanted to work for Twitter from prison?

Practically every single person has a limit to their tolerance, where's yours?

The US government hired like 99% of all Nazi scientists after the war...

 

[Virgorising]

Everyone that doesn't like asian fart porn all the time should be fired.

I yam crazy about above, but cherish yr entire offering. Why "Asian fart porn" continues to crack me up, I do not know, but it does.

 

[yuchai]

+1 for someone who doesn't agree with his viewpoint, but also feel that forcing him to step down because of his viewpoint is not the way to go about things.

 

[Ruptga]

The US government hired like 99% of all Nazi scientists after the war...

Ok, but you aren't the US government. Besides that, being a Nazi scientist is a far cry from being head of Nazi propaganda.

 

[halik]

Get back to me when you adopt or subsidize one of the infinite, doomed unwanted babies who did get born to humans in no way capable of parenting.

I will then grant you CERT.

So you should be fired then, based on your stance on that?

Or, better yet, should a head of a private parochial school in the south be fired for having that view?

 

[Virgorising]

Let's cut to the chase. I care less about Eich 's viewpoint or, the actions of his employees or, internet "backlash " than, I wonder how many bazillion dollars Eich will pocket for his vast contributions to Mozilla.

Read the email I just got and pasted. Mozilla itself could not disagree with you more than it does, and in specifics.

 

[Miramonti]

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[desura]

First of all...I wouldn't have made a big deal about it. Yes, he is opposed to gay marriage.

He also created Javascript.

It irks me how some on the left get so incredibly political. If there were like a pattern of the dude leading gay witchhunts or something, yeah, that's a big deal, but that doesn't look like the case.

Secondly...is the dude a Mormon or something? I'm not crazy about gay marriage, but I certainly would never donate money against it. Seems really weird.