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IJTSSG

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Kinda how a lot of people react when they see people like me and call the police. I have a 30 page thread about it.
Wow, that's really impressive. Where do you think that thread ranks on the list of your life's big accomplishments? #1? #2? It's gotta be #1, amirite?

Good job!
 
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Which makes the designer racist, not the object. The notion that we project "racism" onto an inanimate object is silly.

I never said there aren't things which have an unintentionally discriminatory effect. The problem is the word "racist" carries a powerful stigma in our society, and hence it isn't a word we should just throw around. After "child molester," "racist" is about the worst thing you can all someone. Problems like what you describe above can be addressed without calling someone a racist who had no such intent.

We shall conquer the world one automated soap dispenser at a time.
 

SMOGZINN

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I guess it's supposed to matter...right? What's the point of banning "assault" weapons if the distinction is just a cosmetic one?

We do a little bit of research to find out why people choose those guns. If the reason is cosmetic then banning cosmetic things would seem to make sense. We don't have to do everything perfect the first time to make it worth doing, we can dial it in through iteration.
 

HomerJS

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Wow, that's really impressive. Where do you think that thread ranks on the list of your life's big accomplishments? #1? #2? It's gotta be #1, amirite?

Good job!
It ranks at a minimum 1 place in front of this reply
 

Indus

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It's nowhere near 20%. That is crazy to think that 20% of white people are violent and or white nationalist. You are saying that 1 in 5 people are that way.

20% seems about right. Ofcourse the numbers skew towards 5% in New York and 35% in Wisconsin etc.

So 20% might be a good average.

Edit: And 100% in s0me0nesmind1's home.
 
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20% seems about right. Ofcourse the numbers skew towards 5% in New York and 35% in Wisconsin etc.

So 20% might be a good average.

The level of brain dead stupidity in this thread... God damn it's a sad world we live in.

Have you made sure not to reproduce?

Also, remind me: Which state had stop and frisk?
 

Indus

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The level of brain dead stupidity in this thread... God damn it's a sad world we live in.

Have you made sure not to reproduce?

Also, remind me: Which state had stop and frisk?

After having my wife molested and me assaulted by a Trump voter and getting told to get the fuck out of my country.. and having surgery last month for it.. you think I'm the one who needs a darwin award?

The only one who needs his nuts cut off is you and all 63 million Trump voters.

You're right it's a sad world we live in and it will not get any better with those 63 million and you living in an alternate reality.
 

realibrad

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After having my wife molested and me assaulted by a Trump voter and getting told to get the fuck out of my country.. and having surgery last month for it.. you think I'm the one who needs a darwin award?

The only one who needs his nuts cut off is you and all 63 million Trump voters.

You're right it's a sad world we live in and it will not get any better with those 63 million and you living in an alternate reality.

So because I did not vote for Trump, do I get to keep my nuts?
 
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Indus

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So because I did not vote for Trump, do I get to keep my nuts?

By all means..

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And you will find this interesting:

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/0...nce-that-fox-news-is-a-danger-to-america.html

New Poll Provides Evidence That Fox News Is A Danger to America


The Daily Beast published a new poll this morning that appears to prove the existence of a frightening “Fox News Bubble.” It shows that nearly eight in 10 Republicans — 78 percent — who watch the right-wing news network believe Donald Trump is the most successful president in history.
The poll also shows that Republicans who don’t watch Fox News have very different political opinions than Republicans who do watch Fox News.

For example, just 49 percent of Republicans who DON’T watch Fox News believe Trump’s presidency is successful.
With nearly 80 percent of those who do watch the conservative network believing Trump has been fabulously successful, this shows that their propaganda is working.
This is the most compelling evidence yet that Fox is able to strongly influence the political views of a large number of its viewers.

Fox News Gives Its Viewers An Alternative Reality

According to the Daily Beast:
“The survey’s authors say Fox News presents an “alternative reality” to its largely conservative viewers, and plays an “outsize role” in shaping the political and even scientific views for a significant portion of American voters.”

For example, Republicans who don’t watch are nearly twice as likely to believe climate change is driven by human activity, compared to just 12 percent of Republicans who do watch Fox News.

Fox News Is Undermining American Institutions

Nearly the same number of Republican Fox News viewers (79 percent) who believe Trump is the most successful president ever also believe the FBI and U.S. intelligence agencies are trying to sabotage the president.

Slightly less than half — 49 percent — of non-Fox News Republicans believe Trump was the victim of such a conspiracy, and just 8 percent of registered voters who don’t watch the network agree.

This shows that Trump and Fox News have worked together to attack the FBI and other American institutions.
According to the poll:

“Where Republican partisan affiliation and the Fox News echo-chamber overlap, there is near unanimity on the politics and even the facts defining the Trump presidency. This is the ‘FoxHole.’”

“This particular segment of the public is so vastly different from the rest, it may serve progressives best to focus their attention on everyone else.”

The poll also found that Fox News viewers are far more aware of progressive issues, such as the Green New Deal, than those who get their news elsewhere, because the network relentlessly attacks progressive ideas and policy proposals.

By Repeating Donald Trump’s Lies, Fox News Has Strengthened and Legitimized His Presidency

We have reported many times that Donald Trump has lied and told falsehoods more than any president in U.S. History. And many people have wondered how he can get away with this and still have the support of about 40% of the American electorate.

This new survey provides empirical evidence that Trump has been greatly helped by the Fox News propaganda machine that faithfully repeats his lies and supports everything he does. We recently reported that Fox News plans to work with Trump to undermine the final report that will be issued by Robert Mueller.

Fox News Is A Danger to America

It’s also been shown that Trump and certain Fox News anchors — such as Sean Hannity — routinely coordinate their stories to present a united front to their viewers. It has even been suggested that Hannity directs Trump’s actions.

The conclusion from this survey is simple: Fox News, by operating as “state TV” and filling its viewers minds with propaganda, is a danger to America.
 

KMFJD

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By all means..

View attachment 4515

And you will find this interesting:

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/0...nce-that-fox-news-is-a-danger-to-america.html

New Poll Provides Evidence That Fox News Is A Danger to America


The Daily Beast published a new poll this morning that appears to prove the existence of a frightening “Fox News Bubble.” It shows that nearly eight in 10 Republicans — 78 percent — who watch the right-wing news network believe Donald Trump is the most successful president in history.
The poll also shows that Republicans who don’t watch Fox News have very different political opinions than Republicans who do watch Fox News.

For example, just 49 percent of Republicans who DON’T watch Fox News believe Trump’s presidency is successful.
With nearly 80 percent of those who do watch the conservative network believing Trump has been fabulously successful, this shows that their propaganda is working.
This is the most compelling evidence yet that Fox is able to strongly influence the political views of a large number of its viewers.

Fox News Gives Its Viewers An Alternative Reality

According to the Daily Beast:
“The survey’s authors say Fox News presents an “alternative reality” to its largely conservative viewers, and plays an “outsize role” in shaping the political and even scientific views for a significant portion of American voters.”

For example, Republicans who don’t watch are nearly twice as likely to believe climate change is driven by human activity, compared to just 12 percent of Republicans who do watch Fox News.

Fox News Is Undermining American Institutions

Nearly the same number of Republican Fox News viewers (79 percent) who believe Trump is the most successful president ever also believe the FBI and U.S. intelligence agencies are trying to sabotage the president.

Slightly less than half — 49 percent — of non-Fox News Republicans believe Trump was the victim of such a conspiracy, and just 8 percent of registered voters who don’t watch the network agree.

This shows that Trump and Fox News have worked together to attack the FBI and other American institutions.
According to the poll:

“Where Republican partisan affiliation and the Fox News echo-chamber overlap, there is near unanimity on the politics and even the facts defining the Trump presidency. This is the ‘FoxHole.’”

“This particular segment of the public is so vastly different from the rest, it may serve progressives best to focus their attention on everyone else.”

The poll also found that Fox News viewers are far more aware of progressive issues, such as the Green New Deal, than those who get their news elsewhere, because the network relentlessly attacks progressive ideas and policy proposals.

By Repeating Donald Trump’s Lies, Fox News Has Strengthened and Legitimized His Presidency

We have reported many times that Donald Trump has lied and told falsehoods more than any president in U.S. History. And many people have wondered how he can get away with this and still have the support of about 40% of the American electorate.

This new survey provides empirical evidence that Trump has been greatly helped by the Fox News propaganda machine that faithfully repeats his lies and supports everything he does. We recently reported that Fox News plans to work with Trump to undermine the final report that will be issued by Robert Mueller.

Fox News Is A Danger to America

It’s also been shown that Trump and certain Fox News anchors — such as Sean Hannity — routinely coordinate their stories to present a united front to their viewers. It has even been suggested that Hannity directs Trump’s actions.

The conclusion from this survey is simple: Fox News, by operating as “state TV” and filling its viewers minds with propaganda, is a danger to America.


fake fake fake
 

Perknose

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The level of brain dead stupidity in this thread...

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Which state had stop and frisk?

I understand simple category differences can be challenging for some, but NYC is not a state just like Africa is not a country.

I'd point out the stark irony in your post but I fear you'd think I was talking about laundry or metal ore.
 

woolfe9998

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It's nowhere near 20%. That is crazy to think that 20% of white people are violent and or white nationalist. You are saying that 1 in 5 people are that way.

If we're just focusing on white nationalism - because "violent" could mean anything including just being a criminal - then survey data suggests it's a little over 5.6%, according to this study.

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/10/17670992/study-white-americans-alt-right-racism-white-nationalists

Though the method may if anything underestimate the total since those surveyed were asked questions to determine if they had all three of these beliefs: 1) a strong sense of white identity, 2) a belief in the importance of white solidarity, and 3) a sense of white victimization. And if they only had 2 of the 3, they didn't count as white nationalists.
 
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I understand simple category differences can be challenging for some, but NYC is not a state just like Africa is not a country.

I'd point out the stark irony in your post but I fear you'd think I was talking about laundry or metal ore.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh man! You pwned me!

Where in my post did I indicate if it was a state or local law? The post I quoted (and the discussion at hand) was Indus looking like his retarded self trying to insinuate that the state of New York (Inwhich NYC is contained within NY state detective dipshit) is stereotypically less racist than other states (in his case, WI). I never once indicated what jurisdiction the law fell under - other than that it is contained within the state of New York.
 

realibrad

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If we're just focusing on white nationalism - because "violent" could mean anything including just being a criminal - then survey data suggests it's a little over 5.6%, according to this study.

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/10/17670992/study-white-americans-alt-right-racism-white-nationalists

Though the method may if anything underestimate the total since those surveyed were asked questions to determine if they had all three of these beliefs: 1) a strong sense of white identity, 2) a belief in the importance of white solidarity, and 3) a sense of white victimization. And if they only had 2 of the 3, they didn't count as white nationalists.

That sounds much closer to reality.