Yeap, if they did this Nvidia customers would just end up waiting for Nvidia cards all the time intead of actually buying them!
Imagine you bought the 7800 GTX 512mb, only to find out the G71 was being released 2 months later, only to find out the G80 was being released 2 months later still!
Think how much money you'd have lost? How annoyed youd be, and how reluctant youd be to rush in to future GPU purchases without first hearing confirmation nothing new was going to be released for some time.
Wreckage
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If the G71 stomps and with the delay of Vista, NVIDIA will just tweak and perfect the G80 just like the 7800. They could have released the GTX sooner but with the R520 delay and the 6800's selling so well they waited a bit.
No reason to see the G80 before August.
If the 1800 was a better card, ATI would have waited to release the 1900
We can only hope this is out by April... Who knows really. I'm gonna guesss it won't be quite that soon since G71 isn't even out. They have to make some money on these cards after all... At any rate this is a very exciting time... I'm sure ATI will have something to compete, Lets just hope they can get it to the market quick enough if April is the real time frame for these cards.
akugami
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Rumors, bunch of balogna. Especially rumors that deal with the next generation of cards when the current generation is just out of the gate. Unless nVidia had a similar situation to the delayed R520, and consequent release of the R580, there is no way in hell that they will release the G80 a mere month or two after the G71.
I don't expect the G80 and R600 before August. There is simply no reason to release it before then and there are financial and performance reasons for both companies not to release it until end of Q3 or early Q4.
1. These are DX10 parts, there is no reason to pimp DX10 cards when there is no OS available to take advantage of it. Best to wait until a couple of months before the release of Vista and pimp an OS that can actually use DX10 features, even if the games won't be available for a couple more years. You also get help hyping up your cards from Microsoft who are sure to pimp all of Vista's features including DX10.
2. They need to actually make some money off of the current video cards (ATI more than nVidia, due to the R520 fiasco). It doesn't make sense to just release a new video card, even if it's a refresh product, and release a new and improved super card with gee whiz bang features one to two months later. You'd be losing money on the development of your current cards and then hoping your next generation of cards will pay off the last generation's debts. Do that a few times running and you're sure to go broke.
3. Time to fix bugs and tweak the performance of the new GPU's which will feature unified shaders. This seems like a pretty big change from the previous cores and that means time to get things right. Neither company can afford to stumble, and ATI having already stumbled with the R520 needs to pull off a perfect deployment of it's new cards in 2006 if it wants to remain competitive in the minds of the power gamers.
I don't expect the G80 and R600 before August. There is simply no reason to release it before then and there are financial and performance reasons for both companies not to release it until end of Q3 or early Q4.
1. These are DX10 parts, there is no reason to pimp DX10 cards when there is no OS available to take advantage of it. Best to wait until a couple of months before the release of Vista and pimp an OS that can actually use DX10 features, even if the games won't be available for a couple more years. You also get help hyping up your cards from Microsoft who are sure to pimp all of Vista's features including DX10.
2. They need to actually make some money off of the current video cards (ATI more than nVidia, due to the R520 fiasco). It doesn't make sense to just release a new video card, even if it's a refresh product, and release a new and improved super card with gee whiz bang features one to two months later. You'd be losing money on the development of your current cards and then hoping your next generation of cards will pay off the last generation's debts. Do that a few times running and you're sure to go broke.
3. Time to fix bugs and tweak the performance of the new GPU's which will feature unified shaders. This seems like a pretty big change from the previous cores and that means time to get things right. Neither company can afford to stumble, and ATI having already stumbled with the R520 needs to pull off a perfect deployment of it's new cards in 2006 if it wants to remain competitive in the minds of the power gamers.
I'll belive it when I see it, remember the 32 pipe monster R520 was going to be? We all know how that turned out
LOL, so who still wants to wait for the g71? You gotta wait for the g80 now! No wait, the r600 is only a few months after the g80! :laugh:
Wreckage
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Such the hypocrite monkey.... It took me 60 seconds to find this from you
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=31&threadid=1768062&enterthread=y
LOL, I guess you should only wait if it's ATI?
Done and DONE!!!
But I'm going to have to discount any rumor that predicts "dual-core GPU" as bunk, not least of which b/c GPUs are already so bandwidth-starved that you're not going to want two fighting to share the same bandwidth. SLI-on-a-card makes slightly more sense.
FYI, the wording of VR-Zone's "leak" seems confusing, as those specs seem to be the same as the supposed R600. I think those specs are meant to be for R600, with VR-Zone's only new "info" being that G80 will be fast--big news. G80 being single-card-quad-SLI and helped by ULi is odd, though. Seems a little late in the dev cycle to get ULi involved in a GPU that's supposed to come out this year, let alone July (which I believe NV's CFO or someone said in a recent conference call). Let it be clear that I'm doubting the rumor, not NV's ability to deliver a kick-ass part (which should be beyond questioning by now).
Yeah, more ROPs should allow for more FP blends per clock (and so faster HDR) ... assuming you have enough bandwidth to feed them all. They should at least allow Doom 3 and Quake 4 framerates to hit quadruple digits, what with all that stencil power.
Awww...with all the flaming in the video forum I think people need to joke around once in a while, like you (I think it was you right?) did with the "Fanboy Arguments for ATI/NVidia cards." thread. He did say "LOL" and put a big grin in the post so I think his post was pretty lighthearted.
Anyway, ontopic, if the RUMOURED specs are true the G71 should be a monster card. Then I guess we'll see the R590 which in my opinion probably will win in fewer games against the G71 than the R580 did against the G70. ANd then on to the next gen parts of G80 and R600. I'm waiting to see which card performs well in Oblivion and STALKER. Hopefully the devs don't neuter the graphics of Oblivion and it ends up REALLY stressing the top end cards like FEAR did.
You people are already debating future gen's of technology? Reminds me of those old WB cartoons where two characters would pull progressively bigger and more absurd guns. Except.... you're all playing with imaginary guns. I remember last year this time ATI was going to bury NVIDIA with r520 which had taped out, blah blah. Is Nvidia going to stumble next?
Anyway, I guess Maximum PC was right as they mentioned Dual GPU cards. Surprising how a rag 2 months behind on info had all the websites beat.
Anyway, I guess Maximum PC was right as they mentioned Dual GPU cards. Surprising how a rag 2 months behind on info had all the websites beat.
All we need are new games out now... I'd love to see a Battlefield 3 with even more realistic effects...with the right setup and sound system that game can be intense as ******
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Speaking of STALKER, it's shaping up to be our next Duke Nukem Forever
Past two years they've kept bumping up the release date
Hopefully it'll be out at their currently projected release. I've been waiting a while for that game. It has some real potential to offer some refreshing gameplay.
Past two years they've kept bumping up the release date
Hopefully it'll be out at their currently projected release. I've been waiting a while for that game. It has some real potential to offer some refreshing gameplay.
This is getting quite ridiculous.
Makes me not want a G71 at all.
My step up ends end up march so it looks like it'll be G71 or bust. I will be rather angry if G80 comes out in April. Seems highly unlikely though.
Can you step-up from a step-up?
Makes me not want a G71 at all.
My step up ends end up march so it looks like it'll be G71 or bust. I will be rather angry if G80 comes out in April. Seems highly unlikely though.
Can you step-up from a step-up?
Dang that sucks mang.
I definately think I am going to jump on the G71. I just dont wanna waste my step up since i can get full retail value I paid for it.
It would be sweet if a 7900GT was equal to 7800GT SLI, but somehow I doubt that. I guess I dont mind dropping $350 for a 7900GTX
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