More protests getting out of hand in Berkeley

[Blue_Max]

Nice try, idiot, but in case you hadn't noticed, the Neo-Nazis are running the show. They are the establishment.

...despite leftist professors outnumbering right (or simply "non") by 20-to-1.
...despite leftists running most of the media and pushing their agendas 24/7...
...despite leftists changing more and more laws to make THEIR agendas the established norms, and punishing those who disagree with job loss, fines, imprisonment...

..........yeah, nice try.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

...despite leftist professors outnumbering right (or simply "non") by 20-to-1.
...despite leftists running most of the media and pushing their agendas 24/7...
...despite leftists changing more and more laws to make THEIR agendas the established norms, and punishing those who disagree with job loss, fines, imprisonment...

..........yeah, nice try.

so so persecuted. poor maxi.

 

[bshole]

...despite leftist professors outnumbering right (or simply "non") by 20-to-1.
...despite leftists running most of the media and pushing their agendas 24/7...
...despite leftists changing more and more laws to make THEIR agendas the established norms, and punishing those who disagree with job loss, fines, imprisonment...

..........yeah, nice try.

It is true that left leaning professors absolutely dominate academia. What should concern you is that professors are among the most intelligent people on the planet. Here is an honest question for you. I am very interested in your take. Why are the smartest, most informed people more likely to be moderate/liberal?

Faculty members were more likely to categorize themselves as moderate (46.1 percent) than liberal (44.1 percent). Conservatives trailed at 9.2 percent.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news...n-left-questions-assumptions-about-what-means

 

[Jhhnn]

It's your nutty viewpoint that any resistance to full-blown islamisation is considered "persecution", where genuine persecution and quelling of Christianity in the west is met with laughter and/or denial.

Full blown Islamization in N America & Western Europe with Christianity being quelled?

Maybe in Bizarro world. That's insanely post-truth in every way.

 

[Blue_Max]

It is true that left leaning professors absolutely dominate academia. What should concern you is that professors are among the most intelligent people on the planet. Here is an honest question for you. I am very interested in your take. Why are the smartest, most informed people more likely to be moderate/liberal?

Moderate is no problem, nor is classical liberal.

What we have today is aggressive, extreme, authoritative, totalitarian "liberals". They rule the roost and squeeze the "old dinosaurs" out. They dictate what kids WILL be taught, from kindergarten to university. Professors without tenure, and regular-employee schoolteachers have no choice but to comply or leave. The curriculum is set by leftists and they use it to further their agendas. Teaching actual skills is a distant secondary function these days. Heck, it's at the point where "muh diversity" trumps teachers actually being able to even READ! http://nypost.com/2017/03/06/will-new-york-open-the-door-to-teachers-who-cant-read/

As we see from Progressives everywhere (not just here), narrative is everything. Like spreading a religion!
...and like a cult, you cannot even question it without being considered "evil".

 

[brycejones]

so so persecuted. poor maxi.

Notice how maxipad sailed right past his huffpost fail?

 

[Blue_Max]

Notice how maxipad sailed right past his huffpost fail?

...except it wasn't, but you want to call it that anyway.

Narrative above all, of course.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I was specific and not referring to the middle east at all.

Also, you assuming huffpo is dear to me just adds to the lulz.

Narrative above all seems to be your motto.

 

[Commodus]

...except it wasn't, but you want to call it that anyway.

Narrative above all, of course.

No, you most definitely failed... but as always, your fragile ego won't let you admit that you're less than flawless.

Ch33zw1z was arguing about the persecution of Christians in the US. That HuffPo editorial (note: editorial, not report) was focused on persecution elsewhere in the world, like the Middle East. In the US, Christians just don't face any real persecution -- in fact, they're usually the ones doing the persecution (see how virtually impossible it is to rise to the top of US government without at least feigning Christian beliefs). Just because your faith is hard done-by in one part of the world doesn't give you carte blanche to do the same thing to other faiths in your country.

 

[Blue_Max]

No, you most definitely failed... but as always, your fragile ego won't let you admit that you're less than flawless.

Ch33zw1z was arguing about the persecution of Christians in the US. That HuffPo editorial (note: editorial, not report) was focused on persecution elsewhere in the world, like the Middle East. In the US, Christians just don't face any real persecution -- in fact, they're usually the ones doing the persecution (see how virtually impossible it is to rise to the top of US government without at least feigning Christian beliefs). Just because your faith is hard done-by in one part of the world doesn't give you carte blanche to do the same thing to other faiths in your country.

...except persecution most certainly IS happening here, even if it's not at the level you would consider "bad".

I gave examples of THAT hypocrisy earlier but you glossed over it to protect your narrative. You're simply accusing me of doing what you actually did.

...or is this just another red herring distraction because you don't like the evidence being presented about runaway progressivism in our skools?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

...except persecution most certainly IS happening here, even if it's not at the level you would consider "bad".

I gave examples of THAT hypocrisy earlier but you glossed over it to protect your narrative. You're simply accusing me of doing what you actually did.

...or is this just another red herring distraction because you don't like the evidence being presented about runaway progressivism in our skools?

LOL... what an ultramaroon

 

[desura]

It is true that left leaning professors absolutely dominate academia. What should concern you is that professors are among the most intelligent people on the planet. Here is an honest question for you. I am very interested in your take. Why are the smartest, most informed people more likely to be moderate/liberal?



https://www.insidehighered.com/news...n-left-questions-assumptions-about-what-means

Probably because a certain inflection point was reached a generation ago which permanently biased the institutions of higher learning. After that, it becomes natural for people who come up through the academy to conform to certain biases.

 

[brycejones]

...except persecution most certainly IS happening here, even if it's not at the level you would consider "bad".

I gave examples of THAT hypocrisy earlier but you glossed over it to protect your narrative. You're simply accusing me of doing what you actually did.

...or is this just another red herring distraction because you don't like the evidence being presented about runaway progressivism in our skools?

Look short bus you said huffpo said something that it specifically did not. Be a man, own it and move on.

 

[Grooveriding]

Having spent a decade in university, working with professors then and now that I am finished and employed along side them, as well as working with people who do research as a profession - I can tell you that it's not going to change that highly educated individuals are more likely to be left leaning and liberal.

The fanaticism, conspiracy theories and general madness that is peddled by extremists on the right and the general status of the right wing in the US is not conducive to the sort of culture you find in a university. You must consider that professors holding doctorates are not just teaching, but also doing research. Particularly if you are looking at STEM fields, they deal in facts and rational conclusions on a daily basis.

The only way I could see the more liberal slant of academia ever changing, is if the fanatics of the right everywhere, and the crazy of the US right - suddenly put down the pipe and stopped spreading lies, conspiracy theories and general idiocy as their messaging. That sort of garbage does not fly with people who make a living of doing peer reviewed research.

You're hard pressed to find anything to respect with the fanatical right these days. They deny science, stick dogmatically to bronze age religious myths and continue to dogwhistle and succumb to racism and fears of the other. If they check back into reality they might find they get some respect again. Right now they are just the crazy degenerates trying to drag society back into the dark ages, even as they enjoy the fruits of what academia and research has brought to society in technology, medicine and essentially everything that has advanced us from living in caves and having to hunt with spears..

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Having spent a decade in university, working with professors then and now that I am finished and employed along side them, as well as working with people who do research as a profession - I can tell you that it's not going to change that highly educated individuals are more likely to be left leaning and liberal.

The fanaticism, conspiracy theories and general madness that is peddled by extremists on the right and the general status of the right wing in the US is not conducive to the sort of culture you find in a university. You must consider that professors holding doctorates are not just teaching, but also doing research. Particularly if you are looking at STEM fields, they deal in facts and rational conclusions on a daily basis.

The only way I could see the more liberal slant of academia ever changing, is if the fanatics of the right everywhere, and the crazy of the US right - suddenly put down the pipe and stopped spreading lies, conspiracy theories and general idiocy as their messaging. That sort of garbage does not fly with people who make a living of doing peer reviewed research.

You're hard pressed to find anything to respect with the fanatical right these days. They deny science, stick dogmatically to bronze age religious myths and continue to dogwhistle and succumb to racism and fears of the other. If they check back into reality they might find they get some respect again. Right now they are just the crazy degenerates trying to drag society back into the dark ages, even as they enjoy the fruits of what academia and research has brought to society in technology, medicine and essentially everything that has advanced us from living in caves and having to hunt with spears..

you dirty, fucking fascist. how dare you demean their nonsensical ramblings and refute them with reason and logic, you're just silencing their right to speak freely.

 

[Blue_Max]

The fanaticism, conspiracy theories and general madness that is peddled by extremists on the right and the general status of the right wing in the US is not conducive to the sort of culture you find in a university.

*cough*patriarchytheory*cough*paygap*cough

You must consider that professors holding doctorates are not just teaching, but also doing research. Particularly if you are looking at STEM fields, they deal in facts and rational conclusions on a daily basis.

Professors not only have to write papers, they have to SELL those papers and theories. Their funding is often tied to popularity of the idea they're selling more than the truthfulness of the content itself. More and more, these people are researching layer after layer of pure bunk because it'll get them grant money.

You're hard pressed to find anything to respect with the fanatical right these days.

The problem, again, is that these people consider anyone not as bury-the-needle LEFT as themselves to be RIGHT, though they often aren't. You call them "fanatical" merely for disagreeing with your preferred narratives (or doctrines.) Disagreement is met with an aghast, "How dare you!"

They deny science

......um.....

They deny science

.....and who came up with "gender is a social construct" among so many others? To call male/female "offensive"?

...stick dogmatically to bronze age religious myths and continue to dogwhistle and succumb to racism and fears of the other. If they check back into reality they might find they get some respect again. Right now they are just the crazy degenerates trying to drag society back into the dark ages, even as they enjoy the fruits of what academia and research has brought to society in technology, medicine and essentially everything that has advanced us from living in caves and having to hunt with spears..

Poli-Sci class didn't help cultivate crops or create tools and never will.

Now how about some proof of your claim that non-progressives (that you call "fanatical right") are somehow all/mostly crazy degenerates? Why is it that Christianity is "bronze age dragging to the dark ages" while islam is cool, trendy, romantic and good for our kids? Why is it you think non-progressives can't have had anything to do with advancing tech/medicine or society?
I see no evidence of that - just you hurling insults at people you don't like.

 

[Jhhnn]

Probably because a certain inflection point was reached a generation ago which permanently biased the institutions of higher learning. After that, it becomes natural for people who come up through the academy to conform to certain biases.

Facts have a well known liberal bias, just as knowledge is the enemy of Faith. That hasn't changed since the Enlightenment, nor likely will it other than in Trumpistan.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Islam is cool and trendy? Wtf?

Just too funny....

 

[Blue_Max]

Islam is cool and trendy? Wtf?

Just too funny....

Forgotten women's day already?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Your statement does not equate to that.

Freedom of religion, being open to differing points of view is not the same as Islam being cool and trendy. You continually make leaps in logic and try to connect the dots, but it doesn't fool anyone.

Do you even USA?

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

Get your ass down here to the US, Maxi-pad. I dare you. I dare you to go where there's lots of people who think like you do, somewhere like Alabama or Mississippi, and survive here. I bet you 50 quatloos you won't make it past 6 months, and not past 2 months if you don't take any charity.

Get out of Canada. You don't deserve anything you have if you treat it like you do.

 

[Jhhnn]

Get your ass down here to the US, Maxi-pad. I dare you. I dare you to go where there's lots of people who think like you do, somewhere like Alabama or Mississippi, and survive here. I bet you 50 quatloos you won't make it past 6 months, and not past 2 months if you don't take any charity.

Get out of Canada. You don't deserve anything you have if you treat it like you do.

We could set him up with moving expenses thru a Gofundme account... Send a Trumpster to Canada as a sort of student exchange program...

 

[desura]

Facts have a well known liberal bias, just as knowledge is the enemy of Faith. That hasn't changed since the Enlightenment, nor likely will it other than in Trumpistan.

It's more complicated than that. My opinion is that the Vietnam war is what ignited the new left which has become the establishment, which probably will be uprooted in the coming generation.

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

No, no, send me to Canada. I'm sick of this place and my entire generation was sold down the river before we were even born. I'll swap even-Steven with ol' Mini-max there. Maybe I'll come by in a couple of months to pick his emaciated, homeless corpse up off the street. That over-privileged, spoiled little brat has no idea how good he has it there.

 

[ch33zw1z]

If it were me, I'd wanna know where exactly in Canada I was relocating to, there's some pretty isolated, very cold areas.