More protests getting out of hand in Berkeley

[brycejones]

If it were me, I'd wanna know where exactly in Canada I was relocating to, there's some pretty isolated, very cold areas.

I have a feeling maxipad lives in one of the less populated parts of the country. It seems his world view is shaped by what he sees on the internet and not on personal experiences with people from different cultures/religions.

 

[Amused]

How sad. You know a man has lost all morality and humanity when they defend violent white supremacist pro-fascists and try to demonize those who stand against them.

And yes, the logical end to racism and fascism is violence. Both racism and fascism require the violent removal of human rights for individuals to come to fruition.

The only excuse is that they themselves are racist and fascist. There is no other explanation. And thus, they have no right or moral leg to stand on when people act violently against them, for their very ideology threatens whole peoples, races, religions and cultures with violence.

 

[Victorian Gray]

If it were me, I'd wanna know where exactly in Canada I was relocating to, there's some pretty isolated, very cold areas.

We have this

and this

and stuff in between.

like this.

 

[Blue_Max]

How sad. You know a man has lost all morality and humanity when they defend violent white supremacist pro-fascists and try to demonize those who stand against them.

And yes, the logical end to racism and fascism is violence. Both racism and fascism require the violent removal of human rights for individuals to come to fruition.

The only excuse is that they themselves are racist and fascist. There is no other explanation. And thus, they have no right or moral leg to stand on when people act violently against them, for their very ideology threatens whole peoples, races, religions and cultures with violence.

......yeah. That's totally it. Yeah, you nailed it.

 

[ch33zw1z]

First one is fine by me.

No thanks on the ice shanty town.

 

[Blue_Max]

We have this... and this... and lots in between.

....and supposedly a magical super-socialist system full of freebies we're not even aware of! (I'd seriously like to know what they are beyond our two-tiered medical system!)

...somehow paying over double the taxes is insignificant next to our magical system of endless goodies.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's more complicated than that. My opinion is that the Vietnam war is what ignited the new left which has become the establishment, which probably will be uprooted in the coming generation.

If the New Left is the Establishment, why have we been experiencing explosive inequality? There's nothing "Left" about that at all.

 

[desura]

If the New Left is the Establishment, why have we been experiencing explosive inequality? There's nothing "Left" about that at all.

because the new left focused on multiculturalism and LGBT rights and not on making lives of ordinary people better.

 

[Amused]

......yeah. That's totally it. Yeah, you nailed it.

The difference is, the groups that held the rally, Identity Evrpoa, the Proud Boys and Stormfront are self avowed racist, fascist organizations.

Nice try, but when they themselves describe they themselves as racially motivated and pro-fascist and idolize the Nazis and Hitler, it's absolutely nothing like you keep trying to portray it.

In fact, your denials just look sillier and sillier.

 

[Amused]

because the new left focused on multiculturalism and LGBT rights and not on making lives of ordinary people better.

By lifting up those who were previously marginalized, we lift up all of us. I'm glad you can go on with your life not worried about those who are marginalized by their race, religion or sexuality, but those with morals cannot.

 

[Jhhnn]

Take the challenge, Max. If you want to talk shit about American snowflakes, come be one yourself. Find some picturesque small town in Alabama, the land the Job Creators forgot, a place where you'll only see Mooslims on the news & a place where old fashioned customs about race & ethnicity still hold sway. You'll love it. Guaranteed. What you don't like you can just blame it on the Libruhls & say "Thank God for Mississippi!" like the rest of 'em.

 

[sandorski]

....and supposedly a magical super-socialist system full of freebies we're not even aware of! (I'd seriously like to know what they are beyond our two-tiered medical system!)

...somehow paying over double the taxes is insignificant next to our magical system of endless goodies.

We don't pay double the Taxes, especially if you add Healthcare expenses.

 

[desura]

By lifting up those who were previously marginalized, we lift up all of us. I'm glad you can go on with your life not worried about those who are marginalized by their race, religion or sexuality, but those with morals cannot.

Not near that simple. I'll just say that the North Koreans justify what they do by the cause that they are trying to protect. The same has occurred with the new left.

 

[Victorian Gray]

....and supposedly a magical super-socialist system full of freebies we're not even aware of! (I'd seriously like to know what they are beyond our two-tiered medical system!)

...somehow paying over double the taxes is insignificant next to our magical system of endless goodies.

As your life in Canada is such a hellish torture I'm sure that you've considered emigration. I'm thinking Russia or maybe Hungary would suit you perfectly. Good countries for alt-assholes like yourself.

 

[stormkroe]

We don't pay double the Taxes, especially if you add Healthcare expenses.

Not to mention corporate taxes are less than half of those in the USA. Having said that, the claim that blue 'wouldn't make it' in the US is absurd. The pay is higher in Canadia, buy so is the cost of living. The 'make-it-ability' of a person is completely dependent on the person, not the place, when speaking of Canukistan vs USSA.

 

[Orignal Earl]

I have a feeling maxipad lives in one of the less populated parts of the country. It seems his world view is shaped by what he sees on the internet and not on personal experiences with people from different cultures/religions.

That's where I live
Today the Christians n Muslims will have their booths set up beside each other at the farmers market
The Soms of Odin are doing a food drive
After work I'm going to help nephew with his ol school gun rack for his carpentry class at school

I'm pretty sure Max's world is entirely an YouTube one

 

[Commodus]

Forgotten women's day already?

People are doing that not because it's trendy, but because of what it represents: an opposition to bigots who demonize people simply because of their religion. You want to make this image go away? Oppose religion-based immigration bans for the hateful, cowardly acts they are. People won't feel the need to show solidarity if they don't believe an entire culture is under threat.

 

[Grooveriding]

I don't know how he manages here. It must drive him insane. The Conservative party here is definitely not extreme enough for him and he must have a meltdown every time he sees Trudeau's cabinet, half of which are women and contain plenty of non whites. Must grind his gears something fierce.

 

[Orignal Earl]

That's where I live
Today the Christians n Muslims will have their booths set up beside each other at the farmers market
The Soms of Odin are doing a food drive
After work I'm going to help nephew with his ol school gun rack for his carpentry class at school

I'm pretty sure Max's world is entirely an YouTube one

I should add that the Son's of Odin would bitch slap a man who has to use anonymity to preach his beliefs

 

[desura]

People are doing that not because it's trendy, but because of what it represents: an opposition to bigots who demonize people simply because of their religion. You want to make this image go away? Oppose religion-based immigration bans for the hateful, cowardly acts they are. People won't feel the need to show solidarity if they don't believe an entire culture is under threat.

And also ignore the terrorist attacks because bathrub slips kill people too and Tim McVeigh happened and because of the native Americans and because the don't have to stop until they've killed as much of us as we've killed of them.

The Left loves Islam because of the transgressive nature of the terrorism.

 

[Amused]

And also ignore the terrorist attacks because bathrub slips kill people too and Tim McVeigh happened and because of the native Americans and because the don't have to stop until they've killed as much of us as we've killed of them.

The Left loves Islam because of the transgressive nature of the terrorism.

I want a bathrub!

By that logic, we should ban Christianity. Because we shouldn't ignore terrorism as it obviously make the entire religion bad, right?

 

[Commodus]

And also ignore the terrorist attacks because bathrub slips kill people too and Tim McVeigh happened and because of the native Americans and because the don't have to stop until they've killed as much of us as we've killed of them.

The Left loves Islam because of the transgressive nature of the terrorism.

No.

For the most part, the liberals I know don't ignore the attacks or deny that they're the result of Muslim extremism. The difference is that these libs are intelligent enough to recognize that demonizing an entire religion is simplistic, ineffective, and inhumane. You aren't going to forcefully convert or sever contact with 1.7 billion people, and both of those solutions will always be wrong... so you can either learn to live with Muslims as the varied individuals they are, or twist yourself into an increasingly isolated ball of fear.

 

[Commodus]

I want a bathrub!

By that logic, we should ban Christianity. Because we shouldn't ignore terrorism as it obviously make the entire religion bad, right?

*snip*

I get the point you're trying to make, but could you please avoid photos of actual lynchings? It feels disrespectful to use the horrific displays of these deaths to score points in a forum debate.

 

[desura]

I get the point you're trying to make, but could you please avoid photos of actual lynchings? It feels disrespectful to use the horrific displays of these deaths to score points in a forum debate.

That is their center. Black suffering. They extrapolate black suffering to every group under the sun, from LGBT to Muslims. What did you expect?

 

[desura]

No.

For the most part, the liberals I know don't ignore the attacks or deny that they're the result of Muslim extremism. The difference is that these libs are intelligent enough to recognize that demonizing an entire religion is simplistic, ineffective, and inhumane. You aren't going to forcefully convert or sever contact with 1.7 billion people, and both of those solutions will always be wrong... so you can either learn to live with Muslims as the varied individuals they are, or twist yourself into an increasingly isolated ball of fear.

Liberals seem to think that any concern about Islam is demonization. Any desire to impose limits is bigotry. They seem completely incapable of cultural analysis of the Islamic world, and only view it through rose-colored glasses, seeing only the nice things that they want to see.