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agent00f

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For those internet know it all types, sorry if I side with someone who actually knows what he is talking about;



Who is Seklow? Oh, just a guy who has argued 12 cases on the Supreme Court, who also is Chief Counsel of the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ). NBD. I think he knows more about this than anyone here.

Fact is, is federally funded colleges attempts to suppress free speech as a few are doing, and continue to allow violent thugs (oh no, racist?!?!) who are too scared to show their actual face to conduct violence on those there are suppressing free speech. They're shutting down a venue with violence and intimidation. That is suppressing free speech. Berkeley and Hillary's Alma mater are trying to not allow what they disagree with. And even suggesting (and letting) violence happen to those that dont agree with them. The fact that some people here are ok with that, is sad.

LOL, "American Center for Law & Justice (ACLJ) is a politically conservative, Christian-based social activism organization in the United States"

Degenerates must think that using a sophisticated sounding name fools everyone else as well as themselves. Basically the same dumbshit tactic they pulled to rename a creationism "textbook" to get it into biology class. Good thing everyone else is better educated now by these learning institutions they love to hate.
 

desura

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The naval yard shooter was a paranoid schizophrenic, deeply insane. No political motive has been identified. Here is what the conservative National Review has to say about his motives:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/359684/aaron-alexiss-motive-e-fuller-torrey

The DC sniper attacks have never been linked to left wing motives. After the fact, one of the shooters said it was about Jihad, though police have suggested that the motive was personal - he meant to kill his ex wife and figured if she was one victim of many that no one would suspect him. Either way, I see no left wing motive.

I'm starting to think that you believe any time a black person commits some sort of mass murder, it's a "left wing" motive. A rather bizarre assumption.

I haven't looked at the other cases, but those two are the largest and not valid.

My point stands.

you should look at the others.
 

nickqt

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Chris Dorner was pretty left wing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dorner_shootings_and_manhunt

5 killed, 6 wounded.

Gavin Eugene Long.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-baton-rouge-police-shooting-20160717-snap-story.html

3 killed, 3 wounded.

DC Sniper.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._C._sniper_attacks

10 killed, 3 wounded. Muslim.

Naval Yard Shooting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Navy_Yard_shooting

13 dead, 8 wounded.

Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley

http://time.com/3652979/deblasio-nypd-funeral/

2 cops assasinated

I will give you that the black block antifa type people who are pretty hippie haven't actually perpetuated much violence, but by that measure neither have the alt-right people.

Timothy McVeigh: OG Alt-Right Hero Extraordinaire.

You really want to go comparing body counts?

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HamburgerBoy

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imo McVeigh and the Dallas shooter had more in common with each other than with right-wing or left-wing movements respectively. Both acts were ultimately anti-police violence.
 

desura

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Timothy McVeigh: OG Alt-Right Hero Extraordinaire.

You really want to go comparing body counts?

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Till the end of time Tim McVeigh will be brought up to excuse any and all violence. It's about the same level as Milo using his gayness as a shield.
 

agent00f

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imo McVeigh and the Dallas shooter had more in common with each other than with right-wing or left-wing movements respectively. Both acts were ultimately anti-police violence.

Till the end of time Tim McVeigh will be brought up to excuse any and all violence. It's about the same level as Milo using his gayness as a shield.

McVeigh had quite a lot in common with those other right wing cattle-wrangling heros & co in the news a bit back. You know the once living off what's basically a federal subsidy and when that was going away sought to take revenge against the gubmint who would dare foresake a white man.
 

Amused

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LOL, "American Center for Law & Justice (ACLJ) is a politically conservative, Christian-based social activism organization in the United States"

Degenerates must think that using a sophisticated sounding name fools everyone else as well as themselves. Basically the same dumbshit tactic they pulled to rename a creationism "textbook" to get it into biology class. Good thing everyone else is better educated now by these learning institutions they love to hate.

Yep, the ACLJ was founded by none other than Pat Robertson and has been used as the legal attack wing for his Christian Nation crusade. Jay was and still is a frequent guest on the 700 club. In effect, it is the legal arm of the Christian version of the taliban in America.
 

sandorski

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The communist is strong in you.

The small business i built with my own money, I made to serve my interest not yours or the peoples.

You are allowed to have a Business for the benefit of the Community. Not because of Communism, but because of Capitalism.
 

woolfe9998

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you should look at the others.

OK you suckered me in. I read about all of them.

Dorner was a former LA PD officer who was fired, and took revenge by killing several LAPD officers. His "manifesto" made one demand:

Dorner issued a single demand: a public admission by the LAPD that his termination was in retaliation for reporting excessive force. He also asked journalists to pursue "the truth", pointing out specific lines of investigation for reporters to follow under the Freedom of Information Act, and said that "video evidence" was sent to multiple news agencies.

This is a disgruntled ex-employee who went on a killing spree. No dice here.

Gavin Long was a black separatist who killed police to take revenge for real or perceived mistreatment of blacks by police. The second part is consistent with leftist. The first, however, black separatism, is not. Liberals do not support racial separation. Black separatists are listed by the very liberal SPLC as hate groups.

https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map

On Gavin it's a split decision.

Brinsley was another who took revenge on cops, but with no indication of black separatism so far as I saw. I'll give you this one.

So that adds a few more to the 5 killed in Dallas. But then again I think that guy was a separatist as well. Racial separatism is a right wing idea.
 

Amused

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In a nutshell what we had here was a mutually agreed upon gang fight between white supremacist pro-facsists and those who oppose them. Both sides went there with the intention of fighting each other.

So now, the only question is how in the Fsck anyone can be siding with the white supremacists... Unless, of course, you're a white supremacist yourself.

So for those who have expressed support for that side, please explain why you're in favor of white supremacy and fascism.
 
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ch33zw1z

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The problem I'm seeing is that Con's aren't outspoken against the parts of their party that are terrible.

The logic is as follows: all white supremecists support Trump, but not all Trump supporters are white supremecists.

Just as I would ask moderate Muslims to speak out against extremists, I would ask Con's the same.

Watching the videos, there's no way you can argue victim for either side. Both went there to fight, and it happened. It's not shocking from any point of view.
 

desura

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Peace and prosperity bring out an arrogance in people which then leads to war and destruction. Antifa are literally hooked on a feeling IMO.
 

desura

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and profa are just good ol folk.

the altright haven't gone out and tried to intimidate others in an offense like the Antifa.

But I will admit that the altright hasn't fully thought through the implications of what they are saying, or acknowledged the downsides of not celebrating diversity. But by that same measure...BLM hasn't fully thought out the implications of what they are advocating for. both are expressing an emotional outrage.
 
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the altright haven't gone out and tried to intimidate others in an offense like the Antifa.

But I will admit that the altright hasn't fully thought through the implications of what they are saying, or acknowledged the downsides of not celebrating diversity. But by that same measure...BLM hasn't fully thought out the implications of what they are advocating for. both are expressing an emotional outrage.

BULLSHIT
 

desura

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Examples? Only bad one I can think of is Leslie Jones being harassed on twitter, which was wrong, but isn't the same as hitting another person with a glass bottle. The comparable right wing activity to Antifa was when you had white guys with guns going to BLM rallies to intimidate the BLM...but the alt-right doesn't do that.
 

Thebobo

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All these silly labels to try and pigeon hole folks. They're all just assholes. None of these folks are hippies. Just because the have long hair does not make you a hippie, by my definition.
 

Thebobo

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Lauren does it again. She was there and tells all.

You must be enamored with her. But she knows nothing. Just another conservative loudmouth talking head. You act like our country is in a civil war or something, it was a few folks fighting BIG DEAL!