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OutHouse

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Rights are like pie,the ultra rich own most of the pie while we are left with the crumbs, they keep us busy with endless social justice issues so they can continue to enjoy their pie while we are too distracted/tired to see that because of all the fighting among ourselves.

so there are no ultra rich left? lol ok. :rolleyes:
 

brandonbull

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Geez, just imagine if Trump never got elected. No protests due to Trump's emboldenment of the bigots and supremacists, no declaration that Putin is a nice guy we that should get cozy with, no hiding of the Russian Connection necessary, no filling of cabinet positions with folks that are intent on disassembling/gutting their departments and agencies so as to get them out of the way of the very wealthy, no threat to the ACA, Medicare and Social Security, no hilarious/disastrous vaudeville-keystone cops jukes, cover ups and diversions from Trump making stupid off the cuff remarks, threats and accusations and so much more.....

And to think that sometime in the future these days will become "the good 'ol days" for some folks when a president stood up for and supported ALL Americans, especially the ones that finally feel free to openly spread hatred, fear and contempt for their fellow citizens due to the "not looking like me/not born here like me" syndrome they got infected with somewhere in their upbringing. That Trump openly curried favor with folks like that in order to win/keep his presidency is something that is now added to the "new normal" category that he has set a precedent to.

All in all, he is just an arrogant bully of a businessman who has branded himself a deal maker/breaker that just so happens to have gotten elected POTUS. His first orders of business have seen him and his GOP cohorts unabashedly exploiting his/their elective offices so as to enrich themselves and their ilk ever higher, although it's not as if the GOP haven't been doing this for decades on end, it's just that Trump has been very open and shameless about the way he's been doing it. He really doesn't care what ANYONE thinks about his bald faced attempts at pleasing himself and his fellow billionaires first and foremost, well, except when another election cycle comes around. Then it's off to making more false promises and firing up the 'ol Fakery Factory again.

He's even got his supporters siding with him on his opinion that we should consider Putin and his fellow Russian oligarchs folks that we could put our trust in. How's that for a sudden change of heart when previous to his ascension his predecessor was constantly accused of being a commie loving socialist. But then the Russians aren't "commies" anymore now that Trump has insinuated otherwise, right?

The one good thing that's coming from his being POTUS is that he is exposing himself and the GOP's agenda toward favoring the very wealthy's wishes and demands without any doubt or plausible deniability, a heretofore task that was previously couched in flowery deceptive language and deeds.

You could easily replace Trump and GOP name with Obama and Dems in your post and it still would be true.
 
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brandonbull

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To be honest, I consider white supremacists to be a direct threat to the safety and human rights of others. Anyone who advocates and attempts to strip others of their human rights deserves to lose their own. It is a completely indefensible and historically dangerous position and I have no problem with any of it as I see it as no less than self defense.

Signed BLM?
 
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brandonbull

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No.

Antifa may be misguided in its approach to fighting racists and fascists, but... it's fighting racists and fascists. This is and will always be superior to Spencer's views. What's worse: "alt-right" people getting punched or maced at a protest, or those same people wanting to evict non-white people from where they live, harass them and (in extreme cases) attack them without provocation?

I have a personal stake in this, too. My brother's wife is black. When you say Antifa is worse, you're telling me that my sister-in-law's freedom and safety are less important than that of white nationalists who barely tolerate her existence (and let's not kid ourselves: some of Spencer's supporters don't even tolerate that). Condemn Antifa when it resorts to non-defensive violence, by all means, but the greater problems are unquestionably the racist and fascist ideologies they're opposing. Antifa is advocating for small-scale violence; Spencer is ultimately advocating for violence against millions of people (through forced deportation and other racist laws), even if he sugarcoats it by dropping words like "peaceful" in front of horrific concepts.

I guess Antifa's version of oppression and violence is better than that of the groups they are attacking?
 
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but its ok to have talking-heads preach about preserving black, latino identity?

There is a difference. Unlike white people, black and Latino people are minorities in the US. And when they talk about preserving their identity, they don't mean it in the way Spencer does. They just mean supporting and celebrating their cultures, while Spencer's notion of preserving identity means eliminating the presences of any other identities.

Think of it as different approaches to completing a marathon. The minorities' approach gives runners the training and encouragement they need to succeed, and doesn't hurt any fellow runners; Spencer's approach is to ban all the other runners so that he's the only one left.
 
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Amused

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I guess Antifa's version of oppression and violence is better than that of the groups they are attacking?

Between the two groups, one is calling for the elimination of other humans.

That you can't see how white supremacy is threatening only shows us all we need to know about you.

History is repeating itself and Trump/Bannon have their modern day Brownshirts out starting shit.

And you're too stupid/racist (pick one or both) to see it.
 
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Between the two groups, one is calling for the elimination of other humans.

That you can't see how white supremacy is threatening only shows us all we need to know about you.

History is repeating itself and Trump/Bannon have their modern day Brownshirts out starting shit.

And you're too stupid/racist (pick one or both) to see it.

I guessed you missed all the organized protests/riots organized by the left during and after the election. If you weren't running around with your own brand of stupid, you'd realize that what the left has been doing is an exact copy of what the Nazis did during their run. More of the same rhetoric from some simple minded "Progressive", anti-American terrorist puppet. Blah blah.. Racist... blah blah... Nazi...blah blah.. White Supremacist. You lefty losers are pissed that normal people don't want the US to end up as some perverted human pet plantation where you get to go and visit the poor minority that you "helped".

Normal people? Perverted human pet plantation?

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I guessed you missed all the organized protests/riots organized by the left during and after the election. If you weren't running around with your own brand of stupid, you'd realize that what the left has been doing is an exact copy of what the Nazis did during their run. More of the same rhetoric from some simple minded "Progressive", anti-American terrorist puppet. Blah blah.. Racist... blah blah... Nazi...blah blah.. White Supremacist. You lefty losers are pissed that normal people don't want the US to end up as some perverted human pet plantation where you get to go and visit the poor minority that you "helped".
wow, just when I thought you've emptied your bowels fully, you shit out another whopper.
so who are 'normal people'? be specific.
 
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Amused

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I guessed you missed all the organized protests/riots organized by the left during and after the election. If you weren't running around with your own brand of stupid, you'd realize that what the left has been doing is an exact copy of what the Nazis did during their run. More of the same rhetoric from some simple minded "Progressive", anti-American terrorist puppet. Blah blah.. Racist... blah blah... Nazi...blah blah.. White Supremacist. You lefty losers are pissed that normal people don't want the US to end up as some perverted human pet plantation where you get to go and visit the poor minority that you "helped".

Normal people???

Wow.

Actually, I'm center right libertarian leaning. Pretty far from a "lefty."

You only see me as "lefty" because I'm not a fascist racist like yourself. But you see, true liberty means human rights and freedom for all. Not just the privileged race/religion/sex.

Understand this: If you advocate the removal of human rights for others and threaten to do so with violence (as the fascist protestors did) any backlash to that is merely self defence. Period.

The world saw once what happened when minorities laid down in front of fascists with a racist identity... We're not letting that happen again.
 
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I guess Antifa's version of oppression and violence is better than that of the groups they are attacking?
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Between the two groups, one is calling for the elimination of other humans.

That you can't see how white supremacy is threatening only shows us all we need to know about you.

History is repeating itself and Trump/Bannon have their modern day Brownshirts out starting shit.

And you're too stupid/racist (pick one or both) to see it.

that's the stupidest thing i have heard. both sides have thugs are you too stupid/racist to see it?
 

WelshBloke

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that's the stupidest thing i have heard. both sides have thugs are you too stupid/racist to see it?

Do you not see a different motivation from both sides?

Do you think that the US army in WW2 was as bad as the Nazis because they were both fighting?
 

Amused

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that's the stupidest thing i have heard. both sides have thugs are you too stupid/racist to see it?

Why yes, of course! How brilliant! Express a wholly racist ideology with the end result being the removal of human rights for all minorities, and when called out for what you are and self defense is used against your attempts to take away the human rights and freedoms of others, scream "RACIST" back at them! Paint them with what you are!

Does that work for you with anyone over a double digit IQ?
 

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Why yes, of course! How brilliant! Express a wholly racist ideology with the end result being the removal of human rights for all minorities, and when called out for what you are and self defense is used against your attempts to take away the human rights and freedoms of others, scream "RACIST" back at them! Paint them with what you are!

Does that work for you with anyone over a double digit IQ?

Do you suffer from white guilt? im curious of where your outrage is with racist groups like La Raza where the founder is wanting to kick all whites out of california and make it a 100% latino state...
 
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The people who falsely call others "racists" based on 'white privilege' (etc) are, indeed, racists.

If they take this from words to actions and laws they're also FASCISTS.

Congrats, progressives, you're becoming what you claim to hate most.

Don't choke on all that straw bunky.
 

Amused

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Do you suffer from white guilt? im curious of where your outrage is with racist groups like La Raza where the founder is wanting to kick all whites out of california and make it a 100% latino state...

Is this thread about La Raza?

Not sure if you're smart enough to realize, but that's called deflection. I will not be falling for it,
 

Amused

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The people who falsely call others "racists" based on 'white privilege' (etc) are, indeed, racists.

If they take this from words to actions and laws they're also FASCISTS.

Congrats, progressives, you're becoming what you claim to hate most.

So, if I call fully self admitted white supremacists (as were the creators of the fascist racist demonstration) racists, that makes me a racist?

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