More gun owners show up to obama visits carrying

[rudder]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
I bet the Secret Service guys are sweating bullets over that one....

No since they do not get remotely close to the president. Not to say there probably is a sniper's gun trained on the guy's head. But where ever the president is becomes Federal property so it trumps Arizon'a state law concerning open carry.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I'm a big supporter of gun rights, but these idiots are pushing the boundaries, and make it more difficult for the rest of us.

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
I'm all for gun rights, which is why this bothers me. Showing off your scary guns like this is a good way to get the grabbers riled up. Just because you can doesn't mean you should yadda yadda yadda.

Yeah, I don't think I'd bring my guns with me to that kind of setting. As much as I may have the right to carry, some place just aren't appropriate. Use a little common sense.

:beer: Same here. I have a right to carry and do when I go places where I feel it's needed/appropriate. These venues are not that place.

^^^ These ^^^

I own a gun but I sure as hell wouldn't bring it with me to a place like this.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
I bet the Secret Service guys are sweating bullets over that one....

No since they do not get remotely close to the president. Not to say there probably is a sniper's gun trained on the guy's head. But where ever the president is becomes Federal property so it trumps Arizon'a state law concerning open carry.

Can you back that up?

 

[spidey07]

OP updated with video of this crazed lunatic.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: dahunan
Americans are such pigs.. They are not showing that they want to keep their guns.. they are threatening the NEGRO PRESIDENT with them...

LOL @ this massive fail of the day.

Must be them self hating negros... :roll:

 

[jonks]

It's not illegal to openly carry firearms at a heated political rally. It's just fucking stupid.

 

[halik]

Actually watching that video, it was pretty clever. He got national TV coverage of the fact that open carry is NOT illegal in any way. The guy's own reasoning was that he gets harassed in his home state, because cops don't know that it's legal... he did publicize the issue.

Also Brady campaign guy's argument has a huge hole in it - you know the people that open carry, but all the other people can be carrying concealed guns. Of the two, the latter is far more dangerous, because you won't see it coming. Plus I would be willing to bet money that SS handles all people assuming they have weapons... if you sprint towards Obama, they will bag you regardless of what's in your hands.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
I bet the Secret Service guys are sweating bullets over that one....

No since they do not get remotely close to the president. Not to say there probably is a sniper's gun trained on the guy's head. But where ever the president is becomes Federal property so it trumps Arizon'a state law concerning open carry.

Can you back that up?

Not sure of the sniper remark.. but from an interview with U.S. secret Service spokesman on CNN...

U.S. Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan acknowledged the incidents in New Hampshire and Arizona, but said he was not aware of any other recent events where protesters attended with open weapons. He said there was no indication that anyone had organized the incidents.

Asked whether the individuals carrying weapons jeopardized the safety of the president, Donovan said, "Of course not."

The individuals would never have gotten close to the president, regardless of any state laws on openly carrying weapons, he said. A venue is considered a federal site when the Secret Service is protecting the president, and weapons are not allowed on a federal site, he said.


Not sure if it is just Federal authorities deciding this is gonna be the case or if there are lease agreements with whichever venue the president is in or if there is an actual federal law on the books. I for one would not push the secret services' buttons.

Maybe a good start if one wanted to research this topic.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: seemingly random
Maybe the secret service sharpshooters can start taking out the dumbass trash.

Is that the tolerance liberals like to preach?

Its amazing that 99.9% of all gun crime is committed with illegal guns that subvert gun control laws to being with.

Makes you wonder if it is the gun or the individual that is dangerous.

Is that an exclusive or?

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: spidey07
OP updated with video of this crazed lunatic.

Didn't look, self portrait?

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
I bet the Secret Service guys are sweating bullets over that one....

No since they do not get remotely close to the president. Not to say there probably is a sniper's gun trained on the guy's head. But where ever the president is becomes Federal property so it trumps Arizon'a state law concerning open carry.

Can you back that up?

Not sure of the sniper remark.. but from an interview with U.S. secret Service spokesman on CNN...

U.S. Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan acknowledged the incidents in New Hampshire and Arizona, but said he was not aware of any other recent events where protesters attended with open weapons. He said there was no indication that anyone had organized the incidents.

Asked whether the individuals carrying weapons jeopardized the safety of the president, Donovan said, "Of course not."

The individuals would never have gotten close to the president, regardless of any state laws on openly carrying weapons, he said. A venue is considered a federal site when the Secret Service is protecting the president, and weapons are not allowed on a federal site, he said.


Not sure if it is just Federal authorities deciding this is gonna be the case or if there are lease agreements with whichever venue the president is in or if there is an actual federal law on the books. I for one would not push the secret services' buttons.

Maybe a good start if one wanted to research this topic.

Thanks, wasn't sure what to start looking for. Interesting for sure.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

i don't trust anyone to be a responsible gun owner. Bringing weapons to a demonstration is completely unacceptable, even if it is legal.

Yet you trust soccer moms in 2000 pound weapons yapping on their cell-phones and eating to not kill you out on the road?

You trust Joe-blow to not drive home from the bar with a .25 BAC and wipe out your family?

You trust the police to show up in time to protect you if someone wants to do harm to yourself or your family?



Im sorry you dont trust people to exercise their rights. Luckily, it really doesnt matter.

no, i don't trust them either. Driving drunk is not a right though, so thats a bit of a false comparison. Just because you have a right does not mean its responible for you to exercise that right in every scenario.

And soccer moms drive 5000 weapons bro. My beatup old coupe weighs more than 2000 lb

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: dahunan
Americans are such pigs.. They are not showing that they want to keep their guns.. they are threatening the NEGRO PRESIDENT with them...

LOL @ this massive fail of the day.

was this a common thing to happen with other presidents, people coming strapped?

most likely.

These folks came strapped: Squeaky Fromme, John Wilkes, Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley, Charles J. Guiteau, & Leon Czolgosz.

 

[kage69]

Idiots. Trying to play cowboy in the SS' crosshairs, well that's just brilliant.

I hope these asshats realize what they are doing is both foolhardy and counterproductive, before someone is turned into pink mist by numerous agents with very nice internally suppressed weapons.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Patranus
Its amazing that 99.9% of all gun crime is committed with illegal guns that subvert gun control laws to being with.

How many of those illegal guns were purchased legally at some point?

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
I'm all for gun rights, which is why this bothers me. Showing off your scary guns like this is a good way to get the grabbers riled up. Just because you can doesn't mean you should yadda yadda yadda.

Yeah, I don't think I'd bring my guns with me to that kind of setting. As much as I may have the right to carry, some place just aren't appropriate. Use a little common sense.

This. I've always subscribed to the "just because you can doesn't mean you should" theory.

Seriously... toting guns around the POTUS = you asking for it.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: Thump553
Passions run too high at political rallies for it to be a good idea for the genreal public to be carrying dangerous weapons. It's like being allowed to bring weapons into court or onto a plane to defend yourself-far greater harm to the public will result because of the presence of these guns.

If nothing else the presence of (non-police) armed with deadly weapons has a chilling effect on the rest of us who wish to peacefully express our opinions at such events. All it takes is one angry hothead to result in tragedy.

Bullshit. So far how many people have been shot at Obama events? Oh NONE.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: xj0hnx

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan

Originally posted by: xj0hnx

Originally posted by: spidey07 Also notice that ever present scare tactic - "an assault rifle".

Well, an AR-15 is pretty damn close to an assault rifle.

Please define "assault rifle" for me.

An AR-15 lacks the selective fire feature that is one determinant of an "assault rifle".

As do virtually all the rifles banned under the "assault weapons" legislation...

Actually, it has nothing to do with any AWB, and everything to do with the 1934 NFA. AWB are nothing more than feel good bullshit draped on the American people by ineffectual liberals that refuse to acknowledge the real problem is the criminals that use the inanimate objects.

Don't get the wrong impression, I would be stand next to these guys with my lib scaring AK if it had been here, and open carry was legal in my state. As it is, we have to conceal carry. I just like to be honest about firearms, and honestly, these are as close as most civilians come to "assault rifles", which is what I said earlier, "pretty damn close to".

BTW, you might want to check the laws again. You can open carry a long gun in the state of Texas.

 

[xj0hnx]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: xj0hnx

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan

Originally posted by: xj0hnx

Originally posted by: spidey07 Also notice that ever present scare tactic - "an assault rifle".

Well, an AR-15 is pretty damn close to an assault rifle.

Please define "assault rifle" for me.

An AR-15 lacks the selective fire feature that is one determinant of an "assault rifle".

As do virtually all the rifles banned under the "assault weapons" legislation...

Actually, it has nothing to do with any AWB, and everything to do with the 1934 NFA. AWB are nothing more than feel good bullshit draped on the American people by ineffectual liberals that refuse to acknowledge the real problem is the criminals that use the inanimate objects.

Don't get the wrong impression, I would be stand next to these guys with my lib scaring AK if it had been here, and open carry was legal in my state. As it is, we have to conceal carry. I just like to be honest about firearms, and honestly, these are as close as most civilians come to "assault rifles", which is what I said earlier, "pretty damn close to".

BTW, you might want to check the laws again. You can open carry a long gun in the state of Texas.

Open carry of long arms is legal, but;

Texas Penal Code 42.01 Disorderly Conduct. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly (8) displays a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm; (c) for purposes of this section: (1) an act is deemed to occur in a public place or near a private residence if it produces its offensive or proscribed consequences in the public place or near a private residence.

If could become an issue of interpertation at a political rally, and depending on where the rally is, even conceal carry is not allowed in some places, so it would also be dictated as such I would think. And there's the fact that the AK I would carry if I were going to be out a long time is a SBR, which brings a whole other round of gawking, and checking with it.

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
I'm all for gun rights, which is why this bothers me. Showing off your scary guns like this is a good way to get the grabbers riled up. Just because you can doesn't mean you should yadda yadda yadda.

Yeah, I don't think I'd bring my guns with me to that kind of setting. As much as I may have the right to carry, some place just aren't appropriate. Use a little common sense.

:beer: Same here. I have a right to carry and do when I go places where I feel it's needed/appropriate. These venues are not that place.

Yep and all it'll take is for one whack job to try something and it'll fuck it up for those who are law abiding gun owners.

RD, aren't you a fellow Masshole? Is there even open carry here?

I find this entire debacle very very funny. Where I grew up, even privately owning a pellet gun was illegal. I really wanted one. I can now buy a pellet gun (and have), but fuck all if I dare use it to try and plink anything where I live. I feel like I'd get tackled and tasered carrying a BB rifle down the street.

The second amendment is very cute, but as many have said in this thread, bringing a rifle to a presidential town-hall is a bit douchey. The guy is "making a point," but his actions are a bit like me exercising my right to shit myself in public.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: fallout man

The second amendment is very cute, but as many have said in this thread, bringing a rifle to a presidential town-hall is a bit douchey. The guy is "making a point," but his actions are a bit like me exercising my right to shit myself in public.

When was that amendment added?

 

[xj0hnx]

Kind of interesting that the White House, or Obama hasn't really made any public statement decrying these incidents, but the looney left is making their diapers quite heavy on this.

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: fallout man

The second amendment is very cute, but as many have said in this thread, bringing a rifle to a presidential town-hall is a bit douchey. The guy is "making a point," but his actions are a bit like me exercising my right to shit myself in public.

When was that amendment added?

December 15, 1791. He who smelled it, dealt it. You'll never be able to prove anything.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Can someone explain what the actual point of carrying that rifle is? And don't give me that bullshit about exercising one's freedoms, there still has to be a REASON he decided to bring a rifle to the rally. I have the freedom to carry a trolley jack around with me whenever the hell I want, but I generally don't take mine out unless I need to lift something.

 

[JSt0rm]

the smart thing to do is ignore these people. Guns rights were never on the table for Obama.