The biggest reason to carry weapons such as this one that I can think of is, to make other people more aware of gun owners. I hate to make this comparison, so please forgive me, but it is a lot like the gay rights awareness campaigns. Most people who want to ban guns have horrible stupid stereotypes of gun owners, especially "assault weapon" owners as redneck, white, racist, stupid, and the list goes on. The appearance of a black man carrying an "assault weapon" brings a little more awareness that these stereotypes are wrong. If every person who owned a gun always carried their guns, many people would be much more aware of the vast number of law abiding citizens who never use their gun in a crime.
irishScott
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This. Unfortunately carrying a gun intimidates people, and they will think less of you in many places (generally attaching said stereotypes). I live in Northern Virginia, where open carry is legal, but it's a DC suburb. If I open carried here I'd get weird looks all over. Not worth it IMO. I'll open carry if I'm going through a bad part of DC.
TheSlamma
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And they have made sooooo much progress to take away your guns that you need to carry them and buy them up all the time instead of making your trailer payments and lot fee's.
I am not at all against guns but I am against how easy it is to get them. I don't understand why republicans want everyone to be able to get guns so easy, are they looking forward to shootouts in the street?
It is probably because most Democratic attempts at making guns harder to get have eventually turned into bans (D.C, Chicago). Also, because no one seems to be able to produce any credible evidence that restricting access to guns makes life safer (Australia, England). Oh, and for the love of god, yes the Democrats want to ban some guns, the Attorney General of the United States said that he talked to the President of the United States and they wanted to reinstate the assault weapons ban, which had almost no effect on violent crime. Source
Why is it we believe the accusations against President Bush from anonymous sources, but when the AG speaks to a news conference and says the president wants to reinstate a weapons ban, we are not allowed to believe that?
blackangst1
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What legislation has allowed people to get guns so easy specifically from the GOP? And what party was it exactly that let the AWB sunset?
edit: BTW, it is MUCH easier to get a gun illegally than legally. Even banning guns wont solve that problem. Hell I can name 5 or 6 things that are CLEARLY illegal yet could probably get within an hour or two.
TheSlamma
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This is from the guy that said this:
Yet you trust soccer moms in 2000 pound weapons yapping on their cell-phones and eating to not kill you out on the road?
You trust Joe-blow to not drive home from the bar with a .25 BAC and wipe out your family?
Do I need to say anything else? no
In the hands of a law abiding person a gun is not a issue period. The guy was no threat and he was just exercising his right to bare and keep arms as a sign of protest. He did not break any laws and was well within his rights to carry openly. In Arizona its not even a issue.
This is only a issue with dems who live in states like California were its better to demonize an object then to actually address the issues of the pervasive culture of violence found in inner cities minority communities. California has one of the strictest guns laws on the books and places like Richmond or East Oakland are rife with crime violent crimes. It has nothing to do with gun so much as the distinct failed cultures found in these communities vs that of places in Phoenix, Arizona.
In California only the very rich and powerful, politicians and law enforcement are allowed to obtain CCW licenses. The average guy will have a near impossible time obtaining a CCW license even with a legitimate reason because of the hostile nature of laws in the state which are designed to hinder a law abiding person's ability to defend themselves with a firearm. You basically have to be well connected to obtain a CCW license. I guess you could technically say that California is sort of a police state in that the only ones allowed to carry fire arms without any issues are the police, the very rich and powerful and politicians.
There is also one other group in California who have no problem doing as they please outside the aforementioned legally entitled groups in California and they are the criminal element. The criminal element who have guns up the Waazoo!! This groups has no qualms with owning and concealing firearms they are prohibited from owning due to felonies and gang affiliation, etc.. This group also has no problems using their firearms to further their criminal activity against law abiding and defenseless individuals.
It is a sad state of affair when you think about it in California. Unless you are part of the upper class, law enforcement, politician or a criminal you automatically disqualified from being able to carry a gun on your person in California. The average tax paying individual is basically at the mercy of these groups.
This is only a issue with dems who live in states like California were its better to demonize an object then to actually address the issues of the pervasive culture of violence found in inner cities minority communities. California has one of the strictest guns laws on the books and places like Richmond or East Oakland are rife with crime violent crimes. It has nothing to do with gun so much as the distinct failed cultures found in these communities vs that of places in Phoenix, Arizona.
In California only the very rich and powerful, politicians and law enforcement are allowed to obtain CCW licenses. The average guy will have a near impossible time obtaining a CCW license even with a legitimate reason because of the hostile nature of laws in the state which are designed to hinder a law abiding person's ability to defend themselves with a firearm. You basically have to be well connected to obtain a CCW license. I guess you could technically say that California is sort of a police state in that the only ones allowed to carry fire arms without any issues are the police, the very rich and powerful and politicians.
There is also one other group in California who have no problem doing as they please outside the aforementioned legally entitled groups in California and they are the criminal element. The criminal element who have guns up the Waazoo!! This groups has no qualms with owning and concealing firearms they are prohibited from owning due to felonies and gang affiliation, etc.. This group also has no problems using their firearms to further their criminal activity against law abiding and defenseless individuals.
It is a sad state of affair when you think about it in California. Unless you are part of the upper class, law enforcement, politician or a criminal you automatically disqualified from being able to carry a gun on your person in California. The average tax paying individual is basically at the mercy of these groups.
jonks
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Please send me your NRA id, I'd like to send them a letter praising you.
You know you're also within your rights to probe through all your neighbors' garbage after they deposit it out by the curb. Give that a shot, I'm sure you'll be really popular with the community.
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
Which is a point that has repeatedly beaten to death in this thread. Now, let me remind you that this country didn't secure its independence through the right to go through your neighbor's trash once it's at the curb.
What you and everybody else who thinks like you don't seem to understand is that advocates of the second amendment generally don't give hald a fuck how popular you guys think we are. We'll have our rights and you can keep your precocious 'popularity'.
Seriously, just live and let live - there's nothing to see here in this thread.
Actually you have no right to go onto another person's property to root in their garbage. That is unless they allow you to do so as in say a garbage man who is being paid to remove garbage from the property.
If you do not exercise your rights you eventually take them for granted and then either lose them forcefully or give them up ignorantly.
Imagine if the average Iranian had the right and ability to carry openly. I am pretty sure their election results would of come out differently to say the least.
The black conservative man exercising his right to carry as a form of protest against Obama was no threat unless you find black conservative men who believe in the 2nd amendment to be a threat in itself.
blackangst1
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The opposition is the one that injects race frequently calling 2nd amendment supporters and people that carry "redneck, white trash, hick, etc". This shows race has, yet again, nothing to do with anything.
n yusef
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blackangst1
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So is most protesting yet no one gives a shit about that. Doesnt take away that both are a constitutional right
Injecting race into any argument is lame and indicates a fundamental weakness that is trying to be covered up. On the other hand, I didn't know that rednecks, white trash and hicks are separate races. That explains a lot.
jonks
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Try reading what I actually wrote instead of what you wanted to read.
I find anyone wielding a gun at a heated political rally carrying signs pronouncing that they need to water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants 'threatening', and so would you if you were in the SS. Probably why the potus didn't stop by for a meet n greet.
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