More embarrassment for Theresa May and Brexit

[Zorba]

May is being forced into a very soft Brexit. From what I’ve read they are tentatively going to have to mirror most or all the EU laws in order to keep open borders with Ireland.

It think this cluster F followed by being forced to basically back out of Brexit would be a good thing. Assuming it falls out this way it gives pause to other countries leaving the EU and keeps Britain still pretty much invested in the union.

We’ll need a strong EU to help push back against these right wing fascists that have been trying to weaken the West with some success.

Just like all right wingers, they want all the benefits with out any of the responsibility. Now they are seeing that can't have their cake and eat it too. I'm sure they will just blame others though.

 

[cytg111]

The UK can rejoin the EU later however the terms under which that happens are going to different. No special opt outs or deals likely to be given and re-entry would surely only be granted once it was made impossible for the UK to back out again.

If history repeats itself and the UK ends up economically debilitated while the EU prospers they'll probably be back.

With the recent deals made on migration and the refugee crisis you could argue that we are allready heading towards EU 2.0. It is a different EU than the Brits left already.

 

[mikeymikec]

If history repeats itself and the UK ends up economically debilitated while the EU prospers they'll probably be back.

I doubt it. The right-wing media sources will continue blaming all of our problems on the EU long after Brexit happens.

 

[K1052]

I doubt it. The right-wing media sources will continue blaming all of our problems on the EU long after Brexit happens.

Don't take my prediction as something that would happen soon. I think this would require a pretty nasty period of economic and social unrest to turn around, which is a distinct possibility in the case of a no-deal exit (which I think is most likely).

 

[Incorruptible]

LOL! You have never slapped anyone down in your life. You're a weak, stupid, little man.

Did you know... Saying you've slapped someone down is not the same as actually slapping someone down? Whatever strength you believe yourself to be feeling is a lie that sits within you festering. It lends itself to how stupid, ugly, impotent and incompetent you'll allow yourself to be.

You came into the thread just to attack me, Why dont you add something useful to the thread. Seems you're still upset after I destroyed you so badly that I was banned.

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[Younigue]

You came into the thread just to attack me, Why dont you add something useful to the thread. Seems you're still upset after I destroyed you so badly that I was banned.

LOL! I got you banned? How'd I do that? If you got banned and I didn't get banned doesn't that suggest you owned your own damn self? Fool.

I didn't come in specifically to "attack" you but as I read through the posts your posts of course are pure shit 100% of the time. That's not my fault either if we're keeping score that is. It's not my fault your posts and the brain behind them are shit. You're an ugly child. Go on now do whatever it is you did to get banned, seems like your go to and most cleverest move.

Seriously, what did you do? Threaten to rape me or wish for me to be raped? Threaten to kill me or wish for my death? Threaten to track me down in real life? I was not told of your ban from the forum. But there's a handful of you evil, stupid pricks on here that amuse yourselves by threatening me. It's a weak, small man who does such but hey wear whatever hat ya gotta I guess.

 

[Younigue]

You came into the thread just to attack me, Why dont you add something useful to the thread. Seems you're still upset after I destroyed you so badly that I was banned.

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Perknose
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Also, I feel it's my duty to call out dumbass evil comments and people. That's very useful.

 

[Younigue]

LOL! I got you banned? How'd I do that? If you got banned and I didn't get banned doesn't that suggest you owned your own damn self? Fool.

I didn't come in specifically to "attack" you but as I read through the posts your posts of course are pure shit 100% of the time. That's not my fault either if we're keeping score that is. It's not my fault your posts and the brain behind them are shit. You're an ugly child. Go on now do whatever it is you did to get banned, seems like your go to and most cleverest move.

Seriously, what did you do? Threaten to rape me or wish for me to be raped? Threaten to kill me or wish for my death? Threaten to track me down in real life? I was not told of your ban from the forum. But there's a handful of you evil, stupid pricks on here that amuse yourselves by threatening me. It's a weak, small man who does such but hey wear whatever hat ya gotta I guess.

*Sorry Perknose. Don't answer my questions about your ban Incorruptible. That's between you and whatever moderator doled it out.

 

[Mem]

Two more resigned today here in UK https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/theresa-may-resign-ben-bradley_uk_5b44d927e4b07aea7544af73 problem is the PM is too soft in her talks, we need a new Maggie Thatcher that takes no crap from the EU bullies, end of the day Brexit will go through and get sorted one way or another, I'm not voting for the Tories in the next election that is for sure.

EU has too many crappy laws on UK and that is really one of the reasons why a lot of people voted to leave, we just want our own country back and controlled by us and not the EU puppets.

 

[Veliko]

Two more resigned today here in UK https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/theresa-may-resign-ben-bradley_uk_5b44d927e4b07aea7544af73 problem is the PM is too soft in her talks, we need a new Maggie Thatcher that takes no crap from the EU bullies, end of the day Brexit will go through and get sorted one way or another, I'm not voting for the Tories in the next election that is for sure.

EU has too many crappy laws on UK and that is really one of the reasons why a lot of people voted to leave, we just want our own country back and controlled by us and not the EU puppets.

What is this I don't even.

 

[Commodus]

Two more resigned today here in UK https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/theresa-may-resign-ben-bradley_uk_5b44d927e4b07aea7544af73 problem is the PM is too soft in her talks, we need a new Maggie Thatcher that takes no crap from the EU bullies, end of the day Brexit will go through and get sorted one way or another, I'm not voting for the Tories in the next election that is for sure.

EU has too many crappy laws on UK and that is really one of the reasons why a lot of people voted to leave, we just want our own country back and controlled by us and not the EU puppets.

The real problem is that Brexit was championed by people who had no idea what they really wanted (besides indulging in xenophobia) and no idea how to follow through. It was always a bad idea poorly executed, and you're seeing clearer evidence of that now.

Also, more people oppose leaving the EU than quitting as of recent polls, so I wouldn't talk about a popular mandate at this point.

 

[Mem]

The real problem is that Brexit was championed by people who had no idea what they really wanted (besides indulging in xenophobia) and no idea how to follow through. It was always a bad idea poorly executed, and you're seeing clearer evidence of that now.

Also, more people oppose leaving the EU than remaining as of recent polls, so I wouldn't talk about a popular mandate at this point.

I voted to leave and so did most of my family etc, problem is we did not get a say to go into the EU in the first place, we should of had a national election/vote, will we join the EU in the future?...I don't know but UK is tired of being shafted by EU. EU is great in theory but some countries get treated better then others, nothing is really equal in EU.

Regardless of how you feel people have voted and they have to follow through, personally it won't be a bad thing IMHO, give it time and remember it's far to earlier to say it's a bad thing.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I voted to leave and so did most of my family etc, problem is we did not get a say to go into the EU in the first place, we should of had a national election/vote, will we join the EU in the future?...I don't know but UK is tired of being shafted by EU. EU is great in theory but some countries get treated better then others, nothing is really equal in EU.

Regardless of how you feel people have voted and they have to follow through, personally it won't be a bad thing IMHO, give it time and remember it's far to earlier to say it's a bad thing.

I don't think rejoining will be appealing to anyone. You think you guys gave up a lot the first time? Rejoining would certainly result in far more concessions once this goes through.

Adopting the Euro and the Shengen Agreement on borders is a requirement for joining and the UK would be treated like any new country.

 

[fskimospy]

The real problem is that Brexit was championed by people who had no idea what they really wanted (besides indulging in xenophobia) and no idea how to follow through. It was always a bad idea poorly executed, and you're seeing clearer evidence of that now.

Also, more people oppose leaving the EU than quitting as of recent polls, so I wouldn't talk about a popular mandate at this point.

It is kind of amusing to see it slowly dawn on those that voted leave that this might not have been a good idea after all.

 

[Thebobo]

I flicked a stinkbug off the top of my monitor /flex

 

[Mem]

It is kind of amusing to see it slowly dawn on those that voted leave that this might not have been a good idea after all.

Time will tell, funny this is the first time I voted and actually got what I wanted, lol took me a few decades but looking forward to the future in a positive way, unless we get a WW3 on the horizon with Trump causing more chaos. .

 

[fskimospy]

Time will tell, funny this is the first time I voted and actually got what I wanted, lol took me a few decades but looking forward to the future in a positive way, unless we get a WW3 on the horizon with Trump causing more chaos. .

What benefits do you expect to see and have the economic/currency problems the UK has had so far due to Brexit made you at least reconsider?

 

[Commodus]

I voted to leave and so did most of my family etc, problem is we did not get a say to go into the EU in the first place, we should of had a national election/vote, will we join the EU in the future?...I don't know but UK is tired of being shafted by EU. EU is great in theory but some countries get treated better then others, nothing is really equal in EU.

Regardless of how you feel people have voted and they have to follow through, personally it won't be a bad thing IMHO, give it time and remember it's far to earlier to say it's a bad thing.

So what if most of your family did? Your family doesn't represent the whole of the UK.

It's also kind of funny for you to not only presume you speak for the UK (you don't), but to make a blanket, unsupported claim that it's being "shafted" by the EU. Is it? Provide hard evidence from non-partisan sources, please.

Brexit doesn't necessarily mean calamity, but when I last checked the UK wasn't actually groaning and straining under the EU. It's a change that may not actually have a significant positive impact.

 

[Mem]

What benefits do you expect to see and have the economic/currency problems the UK has had so far due to Brexit made you at least reconsider?

Hoping we get UK laws back and not overruled by EU high courts ie criminals, paedophiles etc..Immigration control back in UK hand and not EU controlled. We are such a small country and unfortunately can't take everyone,(unlike some other big countries) so we need better immigration control and the right people from EU countries (most are the right people and very welcome), but better control on the the pickpockets, thieves from eastern EU. Less money to EU and more spending on UK ie hospitals ,schools etc...

Lots of websites on Pro and Cons, one here http://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit-0 .

 

[Mem]

So what if most of your family did? Your family doesn't represent the whole of the UK.

It's also kind of funny for you to not only presume you speak for the UK (you don't), but to make a blanket, unsupported claim that it's being "shafted" by the EU. Is it? Provide hard evidence from non-partisan sources, please.

Brexit doesn't necessarily mean calamity, but when I last checked the UK wasn't actually groaning and straining under the EU. It's a change that may not actually have a significant positive impact.

I don't speak for the UK ( never said that) but as I stated that was my vote, don't try and put me down because I voted for Brexit, a lot of people did, does not make me a bad guy and we all have our reasons why, end of the day it will happen and I hope it goes well, nobody has a crystal ball and can predict the future good or bad, we can all hope for a better future.

 

[fskimospy]

Hoping we get UK laws back and not overruled by EU high courts ie criminals, paedophiles etc..Immigration control back in UK hand and not EU controlled. We are such a small country and unfortunately can't take everyone,(unlike some other big countries) so we need better immigration control and the right people from EU countries (most are the right people and very welcome), but better control on the the pickpockets, thieves from eastern EU. Less money to EU and more spending on UK ie hospitals ,schools etc...

Lots of websites on Pro and Cons, one here http://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit-0 .

But the UK has been a net benefactor from immigration, you're going to be a poorer country without it. They are also either equally likely or less likely to be involved in crime than native born UK individuals (depending on region) and they consume fewer social services. Immigrants are also on average better educated than UK citizens.

It's baffling to me, what's not to like? You guys should be pushing for more immigration, not less.

 

[Veliko]

Hoping we get UK laws back and not overruled by EU high courts ie criminals, paedophiles etc..Immigration control back in UK hand and not EU controlled. We are such a small country and unfortunately can't take everyone,(unlike some other big countries) so we need better immigration control and the right people from EU countries (most are the right people and very welcome), but better control on the the pickpockets, thieves from eastern EU. Less money to EU and more spending on UK ie hospitals ,schools etc...

Lots of websites on Pro and Cons, one here http://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit-0 .

Much like everyone on the Leave side, you really aren't saying much here at all. It's quite telling that 2+ years on, we're still hearing the exact same vagueness that was being trotted out before the referendum took place.

How is Brexit going to make our lives better? What are the actual tangible benefits?

 

[Commodus]

I don't speak for the UK ( never said that) but as I stated that was my vote, don't try and put me down because I voted for Brexit, a lot of people did, does not make me a bad guy and we all have our reasons why, end of the day it will happen and I hope it goes well, nobody has a crystal ball and can predict the future good or bad, we can all hope for a better future.

Well you did, because you cited your family sharing your vote as some kind of proof of support (no, it just means your family supported it) and asserted that the entire UK was tired of the EU when you really meant to say you, personally, are tired of the EU. Right now, most of those polled wish they could end Brexit entirely.

I do hope things go well; I just don't think it should have started in the first place, or that the current leadership is in a position to create a good exit agreement.

 

[Mem]

Well you did, because you cited your family sharing your vote as some kind of proof of support (no, it just means your family supported it) and asserted that the entire UK was tired of the EU when you really meant to say you, personally, are tired of the EU. Right now, most of those polled wish they could end Brexit entirely.

I do hope things go well; I just don't think it should have started in the first place, or that the current leadership is in a position to create a good exit agreement.

My family votes are not the whole of UK, regardless I 've nothing more to say and will not be drawn into an argument or defending my statements, so end of post in this thread for me. Argue amongst yourselves, I'm done .

 

[Brainonska511]

we did not get a say to go into the EU in the first place,

Do you know what representative government is? You don't get a direct vote on a lot of issues.