More Crossfire woes

[Hacp]

To Mathhew

If your looking this is a troll post by rollo.

 

[rbV5]

Trolling is lame

QFT....ban this fool.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Anything new will have issues, including Nvidia stuff. Stop the trolling, it's getting tiring. A month or two down the road, there will be great performing cross-fire motherboards, master cards, etc. And yes, good things come to those that can wait. Be happy with your choices and don't flame others for their choices.

edit - Anandtech had high praises for the board and didn't have these issues w/ the motherboard - Anandtech's Review

My crystal ball is broken.

I wouldn't have predicted X850 Crossfire will be limited to 16X12 @60Hz either, but that's where it will always be.

(BTW- I could have told you guys about that LONG before it was known, but held my tongue to give ATI a chance to prove me wrong. Not as biased as some seem to think.)

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: rbV5

As there's no such thing as a certified board, this is all we can comment on. People are buying video cards NOW, what Crossfire boards may or may not be someday is irrelevant

You're wrong and in the wrong forum.
Link

LOL there's ONE Crossfire board on that page, and:
1. It hasn't been reviewed
2. It's a lowly ECS! (I'd rather use an Xbox than their crap)
3. It's not for sale

Like I said, I'm just trying to give people considering video card choices the whole picture, and this DFI is it, present day.

 

[rbV5]

I wouldn't have predicted X850 Crossfire will be limited to 16X12 @60Hz either, but that's where it will always be

Thats not true either, X850 Crossfire is capable of many more modes than 16x12@60Hz.

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: rbV5

As there's no such thing as a certified board, this is all we can comment on. People are buying video cards NOW, what Crossfire boards may or may not be someday is irrelevant

You're wrong and in the wrong forum.
Link

LOL there's ONE Crossfire board on that page, and:
1. It hasn't been reviewed
2. It's a lowly ECS! (I'd rather use an Xbox than their crap)
3. It's not for sale

Like I said, I'm just trying to give people considering video card choices the whole picture, and this DFI is it, present day.

Its the weekend again and you're trolling video again...big suprise.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Hacp
To Mathhew

If your looking this is a troll post by rollo.

QFT

and i think he's still around for entertainment
[unless his lawyers "got" to AT Admin] :Q

😀

:thumbsdown:

Wrong place to post, flame-title, misinfo quoted as fact . . . you'd think you wandered into P&N instead. 😛

And we've known FORever about ati's buggy SouthBridge . . . better SB solutions are available to the partners [in the meantime; as ati attemps to remedy it]

 

[nitromullet]

I'm confused about this ATI certified issue. I can't locate any pages where ATI actually lists certified hardware, but they do list DFI as a trusted motherboard partner under the CrossFire section.

http://www.ati.com/technology/crossfire/buildyourown.html

Edit: sorry, I should have mentioned certified for specifically for CrossFire...

 

[rbV5]

Like I said, I'm just trying to give people considering video card choices the whole picture, and this DFI is it, present day.

DFI makes video cards?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Trolling is lame

QFT....ban this fool.

Quoted for bias- quit shouting for ban when someone posts negative news about ATI from a credible source.

YOU may want to hide this info from the buying public due to your admitted business ties to ATI, the rest of us don't get our cards free from OEMs and have to consider this sort of info so we don't waste our money!!

Don't shoot the messenger, I didn't write that scathing review of the current state of Crossfire.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: rbV5

I wouldn't have predicted X850 Crossfire will be limited to 16X12 @60Hz either, but that's where it will always be

Thats not true either, X850 Crossfire is capable of many more modes than 16x12@60Hz.

Yeah sure, all of them lower resolutions and/or refresh rates. Big deal- who buys two X850s to run 10X7?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: rbV5

Trolling is lame

QFT....ban this fool.

Quoted for bias- quit shouting for ban when someone posts negative news about ATI from a credible source.

YOU may want to hide this info from the buying public due to your admitted business ties to ATI, the rest of us don't get our cards free from OEMs and have to consider this sort of info so we don't waste our money!!

Don't shoot the messenger, I didn't write that scathing review of the current state of Crossfire.

You are the *roll who deliberately posted this in the wrong place . . .

You KNOW the correct place for MB "issues"

and it is no scathing review - FUD master

One thing I have come to know in the last few weeks is just how committed ATI is to their motherboard chipset in the enthusiast marketplace. They certainly want to penetrate that end of the market and are making some solid claims as to moving forward. I think now that many of the motherboard companies will be looking at them to see how they react. Will ATI be there to nurture CrossFire to market if they have to? I hope that this will not be needed, but it is good to see that ATI is being proactive with their ?Certified by ATI? program.

The Bottom Line

While my opinion on this might change in the future, I think that, at this juncture, an informed enthusiast looking to purchase a CrossFire motherboard solution would be best off starting at ATI?s own Certified pages. Sadly, there are no CrossFire motherboards on those pages yet. And while I may not be the world?s largest Radeon Xpress 200 fan, I still have a lot of faith in ATI. I truly hope that HardOCP is publishing glowing CrossFire motherboard reviews and system evaluations here soon.

this needs to be moved [period]

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Like I said, I'm just trying to give people considering video card choices the whole picture, and this DFI is it, present day.

DFI makes video cards?

PLease don't construe this as an "attack"- but don't you think it would be appropriate for you to have "ATI Product Tester" in your sig?

It's one thing for some guy like me on the outer edge of nowhere to post "I like nVidia parts currently, here's why".

It's another entirely for you, as an ATI partner, to do the same. We pretty much expect ATI/their partners to post what good there is about ATI, and hopefully get us inside info when possible.

We also need to consider the source. It's only fair?

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: rbV5

Trolling is lame

QFT....ban this fool.

Quoted for bias- quit shouting for ban when someone posts negative news about ATI from a credible source.

YOU may want to hide this info from the buying public due to your admitted business ties to ATI, the rest of us don't get our cards free from OEMs and have to consider this sort of info so we don't waste our money!!

Don't shoot the messenger, I didn't write that scathing review of the current state of Crossfire.

Hide it? My business ties?...free cards from OEMs?

Post it in the motherboard forum all you want. The rest of your post is nonsense.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Hey Messenger,

Why didn't you post this review from a reputable source when it was published?
Anandtech's Review of the DFI LANParty UT RDX200

Quote from the review:
"In every performance area important to overclockers and AMD hobbyists, the DFI is at least as good as the legendary DFI nForce4 motherboards. In some areas, the DFI RDX200 is even superior to their nForce4 boards."

A Messenger? Yes, if it's anti-ATI and pro-Nvidia
Biased? Yes
Troll? Yes
Time for a vacation from the forums? Yes

Trolling is lame.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: rbV5

Trolling is lame

QFT....ban this fool.

Quoted for bias- quit shouting for ban when someone posts negative news about ATI from a credible source.

YOU may want to hide this info from the buying public due to your admitted business ties to ATI, the rest of us don't get our cards free from OEMs and have to consider this sort of info so we don't waste our money!!

Don't shoot the messenger, I didn't write that scathing review of the current state of Crossfire.

You are the *roll who deliberately posted this in the wrong place . . .

You KNOW the correct place for MB "issues"

and it is no scathing review - FUD master

One thing I have come to know in the last few weeks is just how committed ATI is to their motherboard chipset in the enthusiast marketplace. They certainly want to penetrate that end of the market and are making some solid claims as to moving forward. I think now that many of the motherboard companies will be looking at them to see how they react. Will ATI be there to nurture CrossFire to market if they have to? I hope that this will not be needed, but it is good to see that ATI is being proactive with their ?Certified by ATI? program.

The Bottom Line

While my opinion on this might change in the future, I think that, at this juncture, an informed enthusiast looking to purchase a CrossFire motherboard solution would be best off starting at ATI?s own Certified pages. Sadly, there are no CrossFire motherboards on those pages yet. And while I may not be the world?s largest Radeon Xpress 200 fan, I still have a lot of faith in ATI. I truly hope that HardOCP is publishing glowing CrossFire motherboard reviews and system evaluations here soon.

this needs to be moved [period]

Ok folks, time to put all your personal feelings aside here. Why exactly should this topic NOT be a concern for potential Crossfire customers? Why should it belong ONLY in the motherboard forum and not here? When it clearly pertains to both categories.
It's a hybrid topic and can go either way. Makes sense for Rollo to post here becuase it has something to do with Crossfire does it not? So put down your pitchforks and look at the data for what it is and nothing more. For Cryin out loud...

 

[nitromullet]

this needs to be moved [period]

Sorry, but I disagree with you on this. The review posted may be of a motherboard, but that motherboard is geared 100% towards the gaming enthusiast market with the intetnion of running two ATI video cards. The purpose of this board is video card performance, so it belongs here. This is just as applicable to the numerous posts we've seen about which PSU to get to run SLI. We don't yell at these people to take it into General Hardware because we're smart enough to see that the PSU question ultimately revolves around video.

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: rbV5

Like I said, I'm just trying to give people considering video card choices the whole picture, and this DFI is it, present day.

DFI makes video cards?

PLease don't construe this as an "attack"- but don't you think it would be appropriate for you to have "ATI Product Tester" in your sig?

It's one thing for some guy like me on the outer edge of nowhere to post "I like nVidia parts currently, here's why".

It's another entirely for you, as an ATI partner, to do the same. We pretty much expect ATI/their partners to post what good their is about ATI, and hopefully get us inside info when possible.

We also need to consider the source. It's only fair?

Why would I consider your lame nonsense and mistruths an attack?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Then it's okay to post other motherboard reviews here? Video performance is part of every motherboard review.

Some one please open a new thread on Anandtech's review of the same motherboard since it contradicts the HardOCP review. And someone start a new thread on the Anandtech's review of the Asus A8N32-SLI, since it's supposed to boost video performance by up 19%.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Hey Messenger,

Why didn't you post this review from a reputable source when it was published?
Anandtech's Review of the DFI LANParty UT RDX200

Quote from the review:
"In every performance area important to overclockers and AMD hobbyists, the DFI is at least as good as the legendary DFI nForce4 motherboards. In some areas, the DFI RDX200 is even superior to their nForce4 boards."

A Messenger? Yes, if it's anti-ATI and pro-Nvidia
Biased? Yes
Troll? Yes
Time for a vacation from the forums? Yes

Trolling is lame.

It's nice you think you're a mod.

I can't help but wonder if you or any of the rest would be here clamoring for my ban if this post was about a SLI motherboard.

I sort of doubt it, hypocsrisy is the enemy of the valid exchange of information.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Rollo
If I had just spent $199! on one of these stinkers, I would go ballistic!

When SLI came out, people were fond of posting it's trivial issues like "doesn't work with Apple monitor", "doesn't support WS yet", "doesn't work in ancient Windows 2000".

Compare that with "Gee my whole computer won't boot".

I think it's pretty obvious ATI should not have entered this arena at this point in time- Crossfire has been a tale of woe all year, late, limited and malfunctioning at all levels.

The A8N-SLI Deluxe nForce4 SLI board I got for $260 last year also has lots of issues, and it's a final product, not some reference beta stuff. It doesn't detect DiamondMax 10 hard disks sometimes, half of the chipset drivers won't install without crashing, NCQ damaged the hard disk data, spontaneously disabling Marvell network adapter, what else did I forget? I don't even use SLI yet, but I don't think I'm gonna try with this motherboard.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: rbV5

Like I said, I'm just trying to give people considering video card choices the whole picture, and this DFI is it, present day.

DFI makes video cards?

PLease don't construe this as an "attack"- but don't you think it would be appropriate for you to have "ATI Product Tester" in your sig?

It's one thing for some guy like me on the outer edge of nowhere to post "I like nVidia parts currently, here's why".

It's another entirely for you, as an ATI partner, to do the same. We pretty much expect ATI/their partners to post what good their is about ATI, and hopefully get us inside info when possible.

We also need to consider the source. It's only fair?

Why would I consider your lame nonsense and mistruths an attack?

Lame nonsense? Do you deny you're an ATI product tester now, when in the past you've freely admitted it.

I think it's great you are, and envy your role, but like I said, when ATI tells you "Nothing to see here" about their products, it's a lot different than me telling you that.

 

[nRollo]

BTW- crossposted for those who cared. 😉

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=29&threadid=1733560&enterthread=y

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Ok folks, time to put all your personal feelings aside here. Why exactly should this topic NOT be a concern for potential Crossfire customers? Why should it belong ONLY in the motherboard forum and not here? When it clearly pertains to both categories.
It's a hybrid topic and can go either way. Makes sense for Rollo to post here becuase it has something to do with Crossfire does it not? So put down your pitchforks and look at the data for what it is and nothing more. For Cryin out loud...

still wrong place . . . re read the topic again 😉

and when we look at the data, we see a NON [xfire] certified by ATI MB having issues with the SB [which we already knew]

this is currently a non-issue as xfire master cards aren't available and a simple BIOS update may resolve it . . . either way it's a MOTHERBOARD issue that DFI needs to resolve - recall or not.

premature . . . just like the crap stating we would not see 512MB x1800 xfire

see a pattern?

[it's a trolling pattern]

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Originally posted by: Rollo
BTW- crossposted for those who cared. 😉

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=29&threadid=1733560&enterthread=y

Where it belongs . . . and let's see what attention it gets withOUT the flamebait title:

Current state of Crossfire motherboards
From HARDOCP

where's the mention of "woes"?
:roll:

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: xtknight
The A8N-SLI Deluxe nForce4 SLI board I got for $260 last year also has lots of issues, and it's a final product, not some reference beta stuff. It doesn't detect DiamondMax 10 hard disks sometimes, half of the chipset drivers won't install without crashing, NCQ damaged the hard disk data, what else did I forget? I don't even use SLI yet, but I don't think I'm gonna try with this motherboard.

This is a final product as well, for sale on newegg. Your motherboard will boot, which puts it ahead of this one.