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Hayabusa Rider

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lmao OFF AT YOUR DISHONEST LYING ASS. You tried to make it sound like nobody got their H1N1 but I WAS HERE TO CALL YOUR LYING ASS ON IT, SO FUCK OFF.

http://pediatrics.about.com/b/2009/12/15/h1n1-recall.htm



I tried to put your low life, lying ass on my ignore list but since you're an administrator it wouldn't let me. That needs to be fixed, that or you need dressed down about your lying, misleading, half truths... one or the other, I don't care which. :p :p :p :D


We administer (that word again) H1N1 here, and all the injections have been recalled. That leaves the nasal spray.

Now explain how we are so cruel because the government will throw people to the wolves because they are a couple bucks over the money limit?

My Maxim holds again. "No one knows your job better than someone who's never done it".

Oh, that's the December recall, you dope. :p
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Ahh I found what's going on. Sandofi had a recall on 1.3 million doses made between November and January. That comprised those months lots and that's what was left for administration. I could link it for you, but you don't like looking at them. ():)
 

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We administer (that word again) H1N1 here, and all the injections have been recalled. That leaves the nasal spray.

Now explain how we are so cruel because the government will throw people to the wolves because they are a couple bucks over the money limit?

My Maxim holds again. "No one knows your job better than someone who's never done it".

Oh, that's the December recall, you dope. :p

Try reading this and then tell me some more of you half-baked lies dipshit:

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccinesupply.htm

Note: Vaccines to protect against 2009 H1N1 are now widely available. Due to the ample supply of H1N1 vaccine, the vaccine supply status numbers are no longer being updated. This vaccine is the best way to protect against 2009 H1N1. CDC is now encouraging everyone to get vaccinated against 2009 H1N1, including people 65 years and older.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Keep going. By now people who are interested can find the link which is *gasp* after the date you posted.

"Hey, Toyotas made in 2009 have been recalled!!"

"That's impossible, I haven't gotten a thing about my 2008!"
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Oh, anyway nobody- would you explain for the audience why it's my fault that Medicaid would cut you off for a couple bucks when they could make it a sliding scale?

That ought to be good.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Also please explain the economics of why carrying excess inventory for which I receive little to no extra compensation makes business sense?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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And don't forget why losing almost 2 billion in revenue to save 155 million makes government a good steward of the public's money?
 

nobodyknows

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Keep going. By now people who are interested can find the link which is *gasp* after the date you posted.

"Hey, Toyotas made in 2009 have been recalled!!"

"That's impossible, I haven't gotten a thing about my 2008!"

Hey dumbass, clink the link and read it before you make a bigger fool out of yourself then you already have.

Table and Graph of 2009 H1N1 Influenza Vaccine Doses Allocated, Ordered, and Shipped By Project Area.

Updated February 2, 2010, 5:00 PM ET

Date Allocated Ordered Shipped
01/29/10 147,323,810 119,086,300 118,922,220
01/28/10 147,301,010 118,989,300 118,899,820
01/27/10 147,089,010 118,920,900 118,841,120
01/26/10 146,940,510 118,840,000 118,606,720
01/25/10 146,267,090 118,699,900 118,279,120
01/22/10 145,132,850 118,630,900 116,226,920
01/21/10 144,741,750 118,072,700 116,206,320
01/20/10 144,092,400 117,711,000 115,822,020
01/19/10 141,602,700 115,853,000 115,630,620
01/15/10 139,334,000 115,591,600 115,487,820
01/14/10 138,934,400 115,246,700 114,850,120
01/13/10 138,402,600 114,972,000 114,504,220
01/12/10 138,369,200 114,517,000 113,293,220
01/11/10 137,697,600 113,270,700 112,538,020
01/08/10 137,359,300 112,599,500 110,202,920
01/07/10 135,981,600 112,013,100 110,202,520
01/06/10 131,661,400 110,400,200 109,016,520
01/05/10 130,386,600 109,506,200 107,351,020
01/04/10 130,386,600 108,474,200 105,266,520
12/31/09 118,241,100 106,247,500 99,366,920
12/30/09 118,241,100 104,249,900 99,362,620
12/29/09 116,266,700 101,697,200 98,764,920
12/28/09 111,947,700 100,931,500 97,281,820
12/24/09 110,477,700 98,681,000 92,659,820
12/23/09 107,786,500 97,584,000 92,659,820
12/22/09 107,786,500 95,514,300 91,863,720
12/21/09 107,156,700 93,940,500 90,384,920
12/18/09 100,082,700 91,630,300 85,988,420
12/17/09 99,439,500 89,187,200 85,980,220
12/16/09 96,385,200 86,710,200 84,493,120
12/15/09 94,628,100 85,298,200 82,617,120
12/14/09 92,883,100 83,656,200 76,355,920


God your an arrogant asshole. Of course your in the healthcare profession and I'm just a dumb ass.... who just owned you. :p
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Ok, we had (and used) H1N1. We used them (they were produced and shipped). Since then we had more, and all lots were recalled. We don't have any, and no one else does either. What you have is a cumulative list. That isn't what's available.

In short we don't have any, we can't get any, and unless someone is sitting on a stockpile of this they don't have it either.

Heh, maybe you want a pic of the fridge? :p


Now I see you've locked onto the CDC issue and completely ignored your sacred cow, government health care. Not surprised.
 

nobodyknows

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Ok, we had (and used) H1N1. We used them (they were produced and shipped). Since then we had more, and all lots were recalled. We don't have any, and no one else does either. What you have is a cumulative list. That isn't what's available.

In short we don't have any, we can't get any, and unless someone is sitting on a stockpile of this they don't have it either.

Heh, maybe you want a pic of the fridge? :p


Now I see you've locked onto the CDC issue and completely ignored your sacred cow, government health care. Not surprised.

Your word and a picture of an empty refiriderator proves what? That you drank all the beer?

The list shows what's available, what was ordered, and what was delivered.

You can't discuss the isue without lying and I really don't give a fuck what liars have to say, so as I said beofre, I'd put your lying ass on my ignore list if I could. I'm done discussing the matter with a proven liar.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Your word and a picture of an empty refiriderator proves what? That you drank all the beer?

The list shows what's available, what was ordered, and what was delivered.

You can't discuss the isue without lying and I really don't give a fuck what liars have to say, so as I said beofre, I'd put your lying ass on my ignore list if I could. I'm done discussing the matter with a proven liar.

You are a legend in your own mind.

Note this in the Walgreens link?

* Flu vaccination schedules are subject to vaccine availability.
Now for that "empty refrigerator"
 

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Hayabusa Rider

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Hey, they might all be good! How do we know they're recalled? Why are they in the fridge??

Well, because they are recalled doesn't mean we don't store things properly until they are ready to be accepted.

Ok, so I could be lying about the recall!

Sure
 

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Hayabusa Rider

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Here is is a bit easier to read. Note the date of 2/13. Note all the lot numbers.
 

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Hayabusa Rider

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Well we resized the hell out of the pics so here's a link.

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Hayabusa Rider

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BUT BUT THAT COULD BE FROM ANYONE!!!

True, but then you'd ask me to prove it. Again note the lot numbers on the boxes under my love note.

44 boxes of ten prefilled syringes.

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Hayabusa Rider

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It's been a week since we processed the recall and no word when we'll get any more.

Supply is controlled by the government. Since they have eleventy billion doses, why are they denying people the chance to be vaccinated?

I mean the government you adore controls everything and since they are so wonderful we should already have it.

So for sake of argument, let's say that the government has a Ft. Knox equivalent for the vaccine. There's probably some old stuff that's still good.

Why isn't in the hands of the providers? If I ordered something drop shipped I would have it in three days tops. Well, then again that's if it's not from those super efficient people you love.
 

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I asked our corporate medical staff at my office (there are 35k employees), they have a facility where they offer free vaccinations including h1n1 to employees. They said they did not currently have any h1n1 vaccine available, and didn't have an ETA as to when they might get more. Fortunately, I already got my shot last year.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I asked our corporate medical staff at my office (there are 35k employees), they have a facility where they offer free vaccinations including h1n1 to employees. They said they did not currently have any h1n1 vaccine available, and didn't have an ETA as to when they might get more. Fortunately, I already got my shot last year.


LIAR! :D

I had H1N1, and it's pretty nasty. There has to be someplace somewhere that has a batch of good vaccine, but why can't we get it? If it's not available it's useless.

Now nobody is pretty much a hobby these days, and honestly I get a kick out of him. :D

The problem that the CDC and the companies that make the vaccines had was that we needed a lot and fast. I don't think many people including those in government realized just how difficult something like this.

Consequently, a vaccine was released which was safe and effective, but it's stability wasn't completely known. It is deteriorating faster than expected, and that sucks. Couldn't be helped though.

Of course the CDC isn't health care, but was held up as a shining example anyway.

It's been kind of fun :D
 

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You sure went to a lot of trouble to educate nobodyknows. I respect that.

I wonder ???? Will he go to the same trouble and tell you that he LEARNED something from you,,,, that is,,,, that he wasn't exactly correct when he said you were wrong.

I am sure he will be along any moment now with an apology for all of the vitriolic criticism that came from his big fat mouth.

Soup anyone?
 

MotF Bane

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You sure went to a lot of trouble to educate nobodyknows. I respect that.

I wonder ???? Will he go to the same trouble and tell you that he LEARNED something from you,,,, that is,,,, that he wasn't exactly correct when he said you were wrong.

I am sure he will be along any moment now with an apology for all of the vitriolic criticism that came from his big fat mouth.

Soup anyone?

Don't hold your breath waiting for that apology.
 

nobodyknows

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You are a legend in your own mind.

Note this in the Walgreens link?

Now for that "empty refrigerator"

yadda, yadda, yadda

http://www.ny.gov/governor/press/press_01151002.html

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
January 15, 2010
GOVERNOR PATERSON ANNOUNCES HOSPITALS WILL AGAIN OFFER FLU VACCINE TO NEWBORNS' CAREGIVERS AND OLDER PATIENTS

Requirement Reinstated; New Radio and TV Ads Urge Vaccination



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Governor David A. Paterson today announced that the State Department of Health (DOH) is reinstating the requirement that hospitals offer the H1N1 flu vaccine to the caregivers of newborns in intensive care and hospital patients who are 65 years of age or older. The reinstated requirement was made possible by increased supplies of vaccine.

"Complacency is the flu's best friend and our worst enemy," Governor Paterson said. "If people do not act now to get vaccinated, a third wave of this dangerous virus becomes more likely. There is plenty of H1N1 flu vaccine available from health care providers, county health departments, pharmacies and pharmacies-within-supermarkets, and I encourage all New Yorkers to take the opportunity to get vaccinated."
 

nobodyknows

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You sure went to a lot of trouble to educate nobodyknows. I respect that.

I wonder ???? Will he go to the same trouble and tell you that he LEARNED something from you,,,, that is,,,, that he wasn't exactly correct when he said you were wrong.

I am sure he will be along any moment now with an apology for all of the vitriolic criticism that came from his big fat mouth.

Soup anyone?

And your proof is some picture the proven liar took? Where is some proof of high risk people who needed the vaccine not getting it? I haven't seen anything like that, but of course you'll take his word for it. idiot.