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[fatBrain]

Quote from the review:

Temperature 10minutes in BIOS ( Tbred 2200@1915MHz Vcore@1.92v, default for 2200 is 1.65v ):

Akasa 824 ( GC 68 ) with 31CFM fan: 88C
AX-7 with 25CFM fan: 84C
AX-7 with 45CFM YS tech: 76C
AX-7 with 80mm 69cfm delta: 65C

And the maximum stable overclock abtained( MHz):

Akasa 824 ( GC 68 ) with 31CFM fan: 1925
AX-7 with 25CFM fan: 1960
AX-7 with 45CFM YS tech: 1980
AX-7 with 80mm 69cfm delta: 2020

Is Akasa 824 the best? No. But is it capable of cooling XP 2100? If you are not dumb enough, stevejst, you know the answer. And what if it paired with 39cfm sunon(34dB) or 50 cfm(40dB) Sunon fan?

 

[stevejst]

Sory, I don't consider a cooling with 60-90C on the CPU as viable in a long run. That way you can fix any Duron heatsink on XP 2100 and blow your lungs out, it might work too. I am sure thay You can make it with a less than 90C if you can get that air a little cooler.

 

[fatBrain]

Look like you will call AX-7 pair with 80mm 69cfm delta fan( 65C in BIOS) insufficient cooling for Tbred 2200, stevejst. Right? No wonder you bash around all the time....

 

[MrCodeDude]

But do you suck or blow? My friend had his fan sucking and mine was blowing and my temps were 10C lower.
-- mrcodedude

 

[Mallow]

I'm no "expert" but in experience I have found that blowing is better. However, try both and see what works best.... nothing wrong with a little pragmatic experimentation.

 

[emjem]

There are a lot of arbitrary claims in this thread that cannot be backed up by anything but ... other arbitrary claims. It is needed to toss some cold water on that from time to time for the sake of the guys that are reading this and have no way of checking your exaggerations.

Hey StevieBoy, calling people names is not a nice thing. Even worse is calling me a liar since that almost p_sses me off. Shame on you! Maybe if you just post facts and quit with the editorializing you will have fewer people taking shots at you. On the other hand it's really generous of you to come to the rescue of the "guys". We've been waiting for YOU since 1999. I think Anand should immediately promote you to Grand Poopa.

Have a fun. I am glad I can help you.

 

[chynkboi]

Anyone going to buy this care to get an extra and sell it to me for paypal? Save money on shipping PM me if someone would do this for me

 

[AmphibSailor]

I'm sold. Just placed my order for the cooler with the optional thermal controlled fan and Arctic Alumina....

AmphibSailor

 

[clarkmo]

Originally posted by: chynkboi
Anyone going to buy this care to get an extra and sell it to me for paypal? Save money on shipping PM me if someone would do this for me

Sorry, already ordered. I did pay for it with my Paypal debit card though.

 

[MrCodeDude]

Originally posted by: chynkboi
Anyone going to buy this care to get an extra and sell it to me for paypal? Save money on shipping PM me if someone would do this for me

How much would you be willing to pay for it?
-- mrcodedude

 

[ikarus1]

My comments on this cooler along with my using a cheap fan with it can be found in this thread:
here

STEVEJST is CALIGULA, a threadcrapper on FW as well. He must work for someone who sells overpriced coolers
and obviously doesn't understand that the GC68 cooler is HUGE with an 80MM fan, and that aluminum out-dissipates
(Not out-conducts) copper, esp an alum HSF unit with mirror polished CPU interface surface.

You don't need to put a huge fan on this thing to get performance, just a basic 3000RPM 80MM 32-35CFM moderate sound level fan, like the SVC $2.95 option they offer.......

 

[Lars]

So can I use this heatsink with the included fan on my XP 2000+ (non-overclocked)? TIA

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

So is this a better heatsink than the Goldengate or not?

 

[LongCoolMother]

YES! STEVEJST IS A BAD GUY DONT LISTEN TO HIM! HES A THREAD CRAPPER!!!

...jk

 

[RobsTV]

Originally posted by: Lars
So can I use this heatsink with the included fan on my XP 2000+ (non-overclocked)? TIA

Thanks to the info stevejst posted
And the maximum stable overclock abtained( MHz):
Akasa 824 ( GC 68 ) with 31CFM fan: 1925
you will see that you can easily use the stock included fan.

Even an XP2100+ only actually runs at 1730MHz, which is well below the 1925MHz they were able to achieve.
The numbers that stevejst says the stock fan can do, 1925, would be more than a stock XP 2400, (if made).

Also something interesting about testing temps at the hsf review that stevejst likes to use:
http://www.tech-pc.co.uk/15coolers.php

NOTE: Due to the EPOX motherboard using the 2312 BIOS (best performance) it actually reads the internal diode slightly incorrectly, and therefore the true temps are about 10c lower than the results I got in this review. (snip)

Also please remember that reading from the Internal Diode from the CPU which is actually inside the CPU core are a lot hotter than those reported from a thermister in the CPU socket.

So for an example, lets say your CPU is running at a reported 55c from an everyday board which has a thermal probe in the socket, immediately you can add approx 20c onto this to get a good idea of the core temperature (the internal diode), and due to the EPOX BIOS not understanding the T'bred's diode properly you can add another 10c. So placing that same CPU in an EPOX 8K3A+ your temps would shoot up to 85c, (snip) So don't faint when you see the high temps, as it due to them been read from the internal diode (approx +20c) and a bug in the EPOX bios (+10c)

Reading between the lines, this then looks like normal temp is 55c, but there tests will show that as 85c.
I'm not saying the review is right or wrong, just pointing out the the review stevejst likes to use shows temps that are 30c higher than what you may get in another motherboard. So when my 8kha+ that doesn't use internal diode reads 50c, that would compare exactly to 80c in these tests.

So their Results overclocking
Supplied low speed 80mm fan = 88c in BIOS, 94c with Sisoft Burn in and a maximum stable
speed of 1925Mhz, (faster than XP2400+, due to142MHz fsb, Vs 133MHz) would actually be:
58c in Bios, 64c (previous and other board temp measurement method) at max overclocked
speed, using 1.92v. Yes, that is toasty, but workable, by simply lowering your vcore. Of course
if AMD made a 1925MHz CPU, it would come ready to run that speed at a much lower voltage.
What they are doing here is forcing a CPU to run much faster than originally intended, and to
do that requires additional voltage for "some" cpu's. Their testing is something 99.999% of the
thread readers here will never come close to doing.

 

[Lark888]

This is a Hot Deal... For a few bucks, one can improve greatly on the retail coolers. With a little effort this cooler can be enhanced by lapping the HS surface. It's not even close to a mirror finish - ½ hour with 400-1500 grit paper will make the thermal conductivity better for all fan combos. This is not the "overclockers" HSF, just a great one for most applications. As noted above, you can achieve higher overclocking with the Alpha or AX7 or higher CFM fans.

I love the quiet and reasonably cool temperatures these HSF combo provide.

 

[garyboz]

It's funny how steve sometimes sites websites to help emphasize his points but doesn't see that those links actually disprove his arguements. Then after everyone says, "That site shows the complete opposite of what you're saying." he says something like, "...well if those results could be believed, which they can't." But seriously, I would get a variable speed fan over a thermally controled fan. The thermally controlled fans usually have their settings too low so they are always running at their maximum speed. What kind of thermal control is that? A variable fan with a variable resistor allows you to change the rpm of the fan to whatever level you want. For instance on my Duron system I have the variable clear blue LED fan that's about $5 on it. I have it spinning at 2800 RPM where it doesn't make any more noise than my 21db NMB case fans. Plus the LED looks cool. On my XP 1600 I have it running at 4000 RPM and it's a little louder but provides greater cooling.

 

[fatBrain]

Does anyone use the 60mm-80mm adapter before( Link ) )? Just want to lower down the noise by replacing the fan instead of the heatsink.

 

[stevejst]

You guys have very much truble arguing with reason. More info for you as posted in the related thread. Try argue that

The thermal resistance determines the quality of a heatsink - the lower the number, the better the cooling performance. In principle, the results of the thermal resistance are closely connected to the cooling temperature. The best result was achieved by the Swiftech MC462, which reached a C/W value of 0.16. This places it considerably ahead of its sister product (the Swiftech MC370-0A) which ranked first in the previous test.

In general, if the specific cooling capability is within the range of 0.35 and 0.4, then we are dealing with a fairly usable heatsink/fan system. Measurements below 0.35 are very good, and those below 0.2 are absolutely top class.

That is from Tom's hardware web site, heard of it? http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q1/010306/cooler-05.html
You should start reading that instead of web sites that test overclocking on a Duron 600. If you try to find a place for your GC68 on the graph from Tom's Hardware article, you would quickly realize why there is no reputable review of it except the one I found on Akasa 824.

Your GC68 cooler has thermal resistance above 0.6, Galaxy puts it at 0.683. Need reference?
I mentioned as well that if you want a significantly better cooler, you can get it at SVC if that is your favorite site. They have a nice TI-V77L, which is very high in the database of frostytech (another web site you should start reading to inform yourself) and has stated thermal resistance of 0.4 which means it is a nice deal for $16.

It seems miracle happens only for you. What you pay $6 is worth $6, there is no magic about it. You can find these and similar with a better fan on many places, I can count at least 4 that I know of, all for $6-8.

 

[sleefer]

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Originally posted by: ikarus1

STEVEJST is CALIGULA, a threadcrapper on FW as well.

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So why are you not responding to this stevejst? Looks like your making a bunch of new friends here too.

 

[stevejst]

So why are you not responding to this stevejst? Looks like your making a bunch of new friends here too.

He tried that.
"Threadcrapping" is his best argument.

 

[RobsTV]

Thanks again for all the help from stevejst.
He continues to give us clues as to the real awesome capabilities of this cheap HSF.
Thanks to him, and his comment that the HSF is the same as Akasa 824.
But, I believe he stated that this HSF is only rated for XP1500+?
A visit to Akasa website AK 824 shows that
this HSF is indeed rated for use with XP2100+, using the stock 31cfm fan.
Of course you could still pay a few dollars more and get a slightly better YS-Tech fan, then use this HS at XP2400+ speeds!

So fear not XP2100+ users.
Thanks to stevejst, and "his" info, you can safely use this $6 unit with your CPU's. It's rated for it!

((but all of us XP1600+@XP2100++ (166MHz fsb) speeds already knew this all along))

 

[emjem]

ROFLMFAO!!

Oh, RobsTV, thanx for putting me onto this great cooler. I've been happily using it for about a week now.

 

[stevejst]

A visit to Akasa website AK 824 shows

I was just wondering how long it will take for you to come up with that. Informed people you aren't.
Right, Akasa writes that. In the review above that was put to the test and you saw the results.
There are many stock coolers that are rated XP 2100, I mentioned Coolermasters for $6 and $7 and others before. How good that cooling is and whether would any serious overclocker used that is a different topic.

The true comparative reference is above and beside sour laughing I don't see any of you capable of arguing with that.
I would say that Akasa does make a little better cooler that GC68, though they use the same OEM. But since I didn't purchase I can leave that to you for guessing.

 

[garyboz]

You cannot compare CW ratios from different reviews. Didn't you have a 3rd grade science class where they explained the scientific method to you. Anyways, the AKASA AK 824 IS NOT THE SAME as the GC68. Look at the pictures closely.Akasa


GC68

The Akasa has a smooth surface vs a finned GC68.

Tha Akasa has even leveled fins vs staggered fins on the GC68.

They ARE similar in appearance but the ARE different.