Strange you ask.
Assume that your room temperature is 25-28C? That is what I can stand the most. Inside your case should not be more than few degree up. Unless you have (a) a small case, (b) no enough fans, (c) poor ventilation.
Why lower? First it would decrease the temperature of all your components, not only CPU but PSU, hard drives, memory, graphic cards etc. For example 5C difference means considerable extended lifetime (MTBF) for these components. Isn't that argument enough? You can accomplish that with perhaps two more fans, say $5-10. How's that for a deal?
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Me too1 I pimp their page whenever I can. Between them and Newegg I dont go much anywhere else.
Right now they have a humungous tube of AS Alumina for ~$6.50 shipped reg mail:
14 gram tube of Alumina @ SVC!
I got mine last week. Make sure you use reg mail, not priority to get this price! I never order priority from them but I always get my stuff within 3 days and usually 2 from when I place my order. nuff said...
i have a xp2100+ with retail heatsink...
by changing to this heatsink, is it gonna help a lot.
the temp of my cpu is around 50 just idling, almost went to 60 when i backup a dvd yesterday.
by changing to this heatsink, is it gonna help a lot.
the temp of my cpu is around 50 just idling, almost went to 60 when i backup a dvd yesterday.
Sounds really poor. Every cooler that SVC has should outperform that. GC68 is not labelled for XP 2100, with a reason. You better choose another fan for that heatsink and use the default fan as a case fan which it is really. You just might need a case fan.
Depends on two things: your case temp and the power of the fan you choose. Mine runs my xp1700 at 13C above case temp. If I were you I'd opt for the $4.99 variable speed fan and adjust it as needed. I'd bet you'll get a good improvement.
Cheapgoose,
How are they for drop by pickup? I'm going to be in San Jose next Tues and Weds on business down around Morgan Hill.
I'd love to save on shipping since I'm going to be close to them.
Dave
How are they for drop by pickup? I'm going to be in San Jose next Tues and Weds on business down around Morgan Hill.
I'd love to save on shipping since I'm going to be close to them.
Dave
Artic Silver 3 can outperform Alumina by about 1-2C if applied properly. Artic Silver is a bit messier, original version is electrically conductive, version version 2 is very little electrically conductive, version 3 is not. Alumina is not conductive and it is easier to clean. AS 3 is the best.
There is some toxic aspect to it, don't eat any.
good alternative at same or better price.
for those whom w/ amd cpu $10 shipped
http://www.newegg.com/app/CustratingReview.asp?item=35-104-103
for those whom w/ intel cpu $12 shipped
http://www.newegg.com/app/CustratingReview.asp?item=35-104-102
just go to newegg and search for "igloo"
also, there are tons of reviews for these GLACIALTECH's, just goto GOOGLE and search for "glacialtech"
imho, the glacialtech igloo 2310 is quieter and perform as good as the svc, if not better. the i2310 also has preapplied silver grease already, and that make it much easier for installation. the the svc is still a good choice though.
for those whom w/ amd cpu $10 shipped
http://www.newegg.com/app/CustratingReview.asp?item=35-104-103
for those whom w/ intel cpu $12 shipped
http://www.newegg.com/app/CustratingReview.asp?item=35-104-102
just go to newegg and search for "igloo"
also, there are tons of reviews for these GLACIALTECH's, just goto GOOGLE and search for "glacialtech"
imho, the glacialtech igloo 2310 is quieter and perform as good as the svc, if not better. the i2310 also has preapplied silver grease already, and that make it much easier for installation. the the svc is still a good choice though.
This cheap HSF should be perfect for your XP2100+.
Don't listen to stevejst, as he just tends to thread crap in an effort to boost his post count.
Heck, he doesn't even have the HSF in question!
For true advice, from others with the same equipment, head over to the CPU overclockers, or cases & cooling forum.
Or, check out any of the forums at websites dedicated to AMD's and Socket A motherboards.
At all sites, you would see that this SVG HSF works great even at higher temps than your XP2100+ will produce.
Many overclockers are taking the most overclockable AMD CPU out, AGOIA XP1600+, and running it at 166x10.5, or higher.
At 166x10.5, net speed is 1743MHz, or about the same as your XP2100+.
But, since you are only pushing your XP2100+ at 133x13, the lower FSB speed you use, means much lower CPU temps for you.
Most using this HSF are obtaining results similar to mine.
Here, XP1600+ at 166x10.5, or at XP2100++ speeds, using SVG GC68 with stock fan,
runs 52c max load, and when using the YSTech fan ($6 more), max temp is 50c.
Non-Overclocked systems should run about 7c to 10c cooler.
This should then put your non-overclocked XP2100+ at around a max of 45c.
But check out the overclockers forum for questions and answers.
Let's keep this free from crapping, and stick to the hot deal at hand.
Move the crapping to the forum where the experts hang out.
I concur with just about everything RobsTV said. Would even make a suggestion that a certain member change there login name to "Threadcrapper" because most of his input is usually just that...threadcrap or just crap.
Re the cooler, I ordered a couple of these a couple of weeks ago and overall very pleased. With the stock fan, they are almost as good as my Alpha 6035, usually within 1 or 2C,but much quieter!. I've always considered myself pretty hardcore but I have so many fans blowing anymore that anytime I can start to reduce the noise level by a few db and not significantly affect cooling, I'm interested. The suggestion made about the variable speed fan is an excellent one (wish I'd thought of that when I ordered). That way, you get to decide the trade-off between cooling and noise.
What I am hoping is that the GC68 is updated with a copper slug in the base. That would be a nice cooler. I think the aluminum and copper hybrids are the best solution. Copper spreads the heat more rapidly and evenly while aluminum dissipates heat faster.
Re the cooler, I ordered a couple of these a couple of weeks ago and overall very pleased. With the stock fan, they are almost as good as my Alpha 6035, usually within 1 or 2C,but much quieter!. I've always considered myself pretty hardcore but I have so many fans blowing anymore that anytime I can start to reduce the noise level by a few db and not significantly affect cooling, I'm interested. The suggestion made about the variable speed fan is an excellent one (wish I'd thought of that when I ordered). That way, you get to decide the trade-off between cooling and noise.
What I am hoping is that the GC68 is updated with a copper slug in the base. That would be a nice cooler. I think the aluminum and copper hybrids are the best solution. Copper spreads the heat more rapidly and evenly while aluminum dissipates heat faster.
I use the variable speed fan with the GC68 and it's great. It let's you "dial in" just the right amount of cooling vs. noise.
The igloo has a 4600rpm 60cm fan that may provide similar cooling to the GC68's fan but IMHO there's no way it could be as quiet as the stock GC68 2500rpm 80cm fan. I've done a lot of experimenting with heatsinks/fans and the reason why the GC works so well is that it is a large heatsink with a large fan (duh!). I just know to look at the igloo heatsink can't be as good a cooler and so much rely on a faster (and louder) fan.
BTW NewEgg don't publish reviews less than 5 stars, so you never get to hear the disgruntled buyers... unless they give 5 stars.
Perhaps you did not notice but here is the info that might help you to realize the comparisons.
GC68 is Chinese made Galaxy (GC as in Galaxy Cooler) brand, not SVC, OEM for YS-Tech, exported and used in AoC D5-825 coolers (with faster fan, check newegg), and Akasa 823 and 824 coolers. Akasa uses the same quality fan in 824 version as GC68 default in SVC. So here is a comparative review of a number of coolers including Akasa 824.
Review
Notice, Akasa 824 is third from the top of graphs. This test is performed honestly, with results as you see at the serious overclocking of T'bred 2200 at 1915 MHz (115 over default). This processor uses 68W and generates less heat than XP 2100 Palomino core. I think it is clearly visible that both AX-7 and Pal 8045 significantly outperform Galaxy. So you get what you payed for.
These are not the best heatsinks money can buy on retail. Talking about Akasa, you need to know this is an entry level XP cooler for Akasa. Akasa does make much better quality heatsinks as well and, of course, they are more expensive.
The question is whether this GC68 cooler can cool the Athlon XP 2100 Palomino, the way it is. After reading this review I think the answer is obvious.
GC68 is Chinese made Galaxy (GC as in Galaxy Cooler) brand, not SVC, OEM for YS-Tech, exported and used in AoC D5-825 coolers (with faster fan, check newegg), and Akasa 823 and 824 coolers. Akasa uses the same quality fan in 824 version as GC68 default in SVC. So here is a comparative review of a number of coolers including Akasa 824.
Review
Notice, Akasa 824 is third from the top of graphs. This test is performed honestly, with results as you see at the serious overclocking of T'bred 2200 at 1915 MHz (115 over default). This processor uses 68W and generates less heat than XP 2100 Palomino core. I think it is clearly visible that both AX-7 and Pal 8045 significantly outperform Galaxy. So you get what you payed for.
These are not the best heatsinks money can buy on retail. Talking about Akasa, you need to know this is an entry level XP cooler for Akasa. Akasa does make much better quality heatsinks as well and, of course, they are more expensive.
The question is whether this GC68 cooler can cool the Athlon XP 2100 Palomino, the way it is. After reading this review I think the answer is obvious.
Does the SVC GC68 come with a fan grill as well? Also, what do u think is better, svc's gc68 with 32cfm/29dba or newegg's version with 38cfm/33dba?
Your answers.
SVC states the information fairly as you can see.
38CFM would be 20% increase from 32CFM (or 31CFM as claimed in www.nexfan.com for the same cooler, looks like OOS) so one would expect better performance as well though AoC rates their cooler more conservative than Galaxy. Notice 48CFM and 50CFM recommendation of SVC for better performance. I can only tell you that YS-Tech 48CFM is a loud fan. I don't know how loud is Sunon 50CFM.
XP 2200 does produce 68w heat, and much more when clocked @ 1915, and much much more when run @1.92v instead of 1.65v default. Here is the simple calculation about the heat generated:
( 20 + 30x 1.915 ) x ( 1.92 / 1.75 )^2 = 93 W
GC68 certainly is not the best cooler but maybe the best for the money, according to the post here. And if it could cool XP Tbred 2200 @1.915MHz @1.92v, answer is OBVIOUS whether it could cool XP2100.
In addition, I will say all the other good coolers are way too overpriced. Think about this, a BIG car radiator only cost $100 something. heheheh.....
Take a better look. It could not come even close to cool T'bred 2200. That was 88C after 10 minutes in BIOS, which was outperformed by 4C using AX7 with a 25CFM fan. Common sense would conclude that AX7 will outperform GC68 significantly with just about any fan that can be mounted on both. GC68 is a good buy if you are looking to save money on the expense of performance. Or for what SVC states it is designed for, up to Athlon XP 1800.
Your arbitrary mathematics is irrelevant. There are a lot of arbitrary claims in this thread that cannot be backed up by anything but ... other arbitrary claims. It is needed to toss some cold water on that from time to time for the sake of the guys that are reading this and have no way of checking your exaggerations.
You have two surveys with some facts, one can make one's own conclusions.
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