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Modern Sports Cars...Useless?

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Read first couple of pages, but...I have been saying this for years. As cars get faster traffic gets thicker and enforcing traffic laws becomes easier. It's why even something like a 300 horsepower car has far, far more power than most of its owners can ever hope to use except once in a blue moon. When I had my Maxima I floored it relatively often but broke traffic laws basically every single time. Even if you just gun it to 60 it's a "display of speed". All this power is more for show than actual fun because most of us simply cannot, on public roads, use the power.

I see Mustang GTs often but basically never gunning it because when they do they stick out like a sore thumb just begging for a ticket.
 
I agree with the author from the standpoint of what people "need" vs. "want". That being said, I would not agree with anyone who says that we need to start making laws in the country I live in to only allow people to have what they "need".

I do not agree with the author's assertion that marketing people are the only thing that has made people "want" powerful engines. Anytime you've driven a really powerful engine...you instantly want it...certainly don't need it.
 
The problem is, you don't consider CO2 to be a pollutant.

Then kill yourself. Less CO2 to worry about.

So what, we can just arbitrarily label something a pollutant and then ban it? Bricks and lumber are pollutants, lets ban houses. Water vapor is a pollutant, lets ban swimming pools and oceans!

You are the poster child for a generation brainwashed by public school and media.
 
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Peter Egan said it a long time ago, and he said it best when discussing his purchase of a ZX-11 (then the fastest production motorcycle in the world):



I often hear people say that it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than to drive a fast car slow, but this oversimplifies things far too much. As much fun as it can be to probe the limits of a car whose limits are rather low, there is, I would assert, still more fun in driving a car whose limits are so high that literally nothing on the road will ever make it work hard.

ZV




I have had the most 'fun' on a GS500, riding two up in the mountains during the fall.



However, there really is a 'feeling' behind having something so capable that nothing even comes close. I had a 1098 for awhile and it was like that, pulling up next to a z06 and 911 at a light and they don't even wanna race anymore. I never got pulled over even ONCE on that thing, usually I'm getting hassled a few times a month on other sportbikes.

It's also sorta fun having people always wanting to ask you about it, and being able to be 'the guy that really uses it' rather than having a garage queen..
 
Then kill yourself. Less CO2 to worry about.

So what, we can just arbitrarily label something a pollutant and then ban it? Bricks and lumber are pollutants, lets ban houses. Water vapor is a pollutant, lets ban swimming pools and oceans!

You are the poster child for a generation brainwashed by public school and media.

I guess his username is meant to be read, "Obama-Nation"?
 
In many place you can get a ticket for that. Showing off is an exhibition of speed.

In every place you can get a ticket for that.

But I would love to see the fat-ass run into his vehicle, abandon the ticket he is currently writing, and try to come after me.
 
Track days, auto bahns 😀 and The Ring are within 8hrs from me 😀

Koing
 
I agree with him in regards to how useless 400hp in a luxury sedan is. Some people want that sort of power, I don't disagree, but do Joe Smith in suburbia the marketing manager need 400hp?

You want to be a cool dude with a fast car, that's fine, live that life. Don't be some parking lot poser with a 400hp BMW driving around your suit and tie thinking you're Steve McQueen, you're not, you're Bob the marketing manager.

I drove my M3 in a suit and tie today and hit 8k rpm in 4th*. I'm Steve McQueen.


*on my local air strip, which is just next to my private autobahn.
 
In every place you can get a ticket for that.

But I would love to see the fat-ass run into his vehicle, abandon the ticket he is currently writing, and try to come after me.

Hey MJinZ - this is my friend, Motorola.
 
Silver Toyota Camry... like a needle in a haystack baby! And yes, too blind. Because you might mistake it for a Toyota Corolla.

I am going to laugh when you blow by a guy on a stop just as his partner is swinging by to check up on him. :awe:
 
I am going to laugh when you blow by a guy on a stop just as his partner is swinging by to check up on him. :awe:

No PROBLEM. My TOYOTA ACCELERATED UNINTENTIONALLY. SORRYZ MR.

Wait I got another one. Officer, I must have hit the gas instead of the brakes. Why else would that have happened since I saw the flashing lights of the other cop? You know us Toyota Drivers, we are silly.
 
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No PROBLEM. My TOYOTA ACCELERATED UNINTENTIONALLY. SORRYZ MR.

You realize I could ground your car for that, do you not? Start walking or call a taxi - your unintentionally accelerating vehicle is unsafe for public roads.

😉
 
You realize I could ground your car for that, do you not? Start walking or call a taxi - your unintentionally accelerating vehicle is unsafe for public roads.

😉

I'll take my chances ^_^

I just have to laugh that all the recent Toyota news that is depreciating my car will at least give me some excuses down the road when I get stopped hehe.
 
There are plenty of times when 0-60 is useful. Want to aurally attack that asshole? Take off in first to 60mph in his face. I love doing this to cops that have already pulled someone over.

I am going to laugh when you blow by a guy on a stop just as his partner is swinging by to check up on him. :awe:


Seriously. Why be a jerk to cops just for the fun of it? There are a lot of good cops out in the world whose names gets tarnished because of a few bad apples. I'm sure you've heard that before but it really boggles my mind why people are fat jerks to those who enforce the laws of the country they live in.
 
Seriously. Why be a jerk to cops just for the fun of it? There are a lot of good cops out in the world whose names gets tarnished because of a few bad apples. I'm sure you've heard that before but it really boggles my mind why people are fat jerks to those who enforce the laws of the country they live in.

They are tax collectors.

I don't mind if they start doing the real police work out there.

Or we could just cut the police force by 50%, but you know what, our State and Local coffers would not be pleased.

Seriously, what do you pay your local cops for? To get ticketed, and for directing traffic. You file a report on something missing, a crime, or even an ordinance violation - watch them do jackshit.
 
They are tax collectors.

I don't mind if they start doing the real police work out there.

Or we could just cut the police force by 50%, but you know what, our State and Local coffers would not be pleased.

Seriously, what do you pay your local cops for? To get ticketed, and for directing traffic. You file a report on something missing, a crime, or even an ordinance violation - watch them do jackshit.

Maybe someday, when you grow up, you'll...well, grow up.
 
They are tax collectors.

I don't mind if they start doing the real police work out there.

Or we could just cut the police force by 50%, but you know what, our State and Local coffers would not be pleased.

Seriously, what do you pay your local cops for? To get ticketed, and for directing traffic. You file a report on something missing, a crime, or even an ordinance violation - watch them do jackshit.

Curiuous, where do you live? In every part of California I have lived in, the dispatcher and police have been extremely responsive to every call I, and my family, have ever made. This is especially true if you live in a small, rural or suburban areas, where it seems a call for even a minor issue will bring forth the calvary.
 
They are tax collectors.

I don't mind if they start doing the real police work out there.

Or we could just cut the police force by 50%, but you know what, our State and Local coffers would not be pleased.

Seriously, what do you pay your local cops for? To get ticketed, and for directing traffic. You file a report on something missing, a crime, or even an ordinance violation - watch them do jackshit.

Surpisingly, I have to agree with this. I have been pulled-over a few times before, and cops take that much more seriously than when I have had to call them for damaged or stolen property. It's all about "due-dilligence" and crap when you are going 70 in a 60mpz zone, but "there's nothing we can do" with a apathetic attitude when something happens to YOU.

Police really are more of tax collectors. When I was in college, cops waited to respond to a break-and-enter call because they wanted to cite a bunch of kids (19-20) for drinking. The break-and-enter response was over 20 minutes, and the woman was raped in the meantime.

I respect most officers, but we would be fine with FAR less around the roads and sitting in parking lots. I like the officers I meet in most other countries (Japan, England) because they actually walk around and interact with people. US officers stay in their cars and act so superior all the time...I digress!
 
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