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[HAL9000]

Factually wrong or incorrect it's still my fucking opinion.

Are you entitled to opinions?

If you are then so am I.

Do you want me posting after every one of your posts like Jono and lopped that you are not entitled to your opinion?

You can't claim that it's an opinion I can say "oh 1+1=120 IMO" that's not opinion that's delusion

Even if for some stupid reason you still think this is an opinion you should now change your opinion as you've learned you were wrong, you can no longer claim that 4.89=5 as you know it to be wrong and thus don't believe it to be true, your "opinion" has changed

 

[RabidMongoose]

#3 sounds good, especially enforcement on removing bigotry and racism from this forum, which is probably the biggest issue here.

Also, there are people who are very very nationalistic who cannot stand when others make comments or criticism of their nation. So perhaps hyper-nationalism to the point of going on a tirade should be looked at as well. However, I wonder how an even-handed moderation could be applied. I'm skeptical. So I'm going to go with #2 but would go with #3 if it is realistically attainable.

 

[dmcowen674]

You can't claim that it's an opinion I can say "oh 1+1=120 IMO" that's not opinion that's delusion

Even if for some stupid reason you still think this is an opinion you should now change your opinion as you've learned you were wrong, you can no longer claim that 4.89=5 as you know it to be wrong and thus don't believe it to be true, your "opinion" has changed

My opinion has not changed.

If you want the word around, then I will use the word around.

Around is Rounding.

You are the one being intellectually dishonest

 

[dmcowen674]

Of course, anything to denote an approximation is being made so as to avoid misleading. ~$5 would work, etc.

Just to be clear then.

Do you consider ~ and the word around to be equal or does the ~ have to used be here at all times?

 

[heymrdj]

I personally think the rules of the forum should apply. There's no reason to call people teabaggers/libtared. No reason for lashing out at people as stupid fucks ect. No reason to allow trolling. No reason to to be calling religious unscientific dipshits. There's no reason at all for alot of this stuff. I think the forum needs to be held to a more adult like stature than it currently is. It's a black eye for P&N to be known as the sespool of AT.

What I find especially foolish is the fact that almost everything discussed in this forum is theoretical and unproven, because it deals with the most unstable element, the human element. So how can someone landblast another saying they're wrong when there's zero ability to prove it? There's no black and white fix to the economy, there's no one right way of necessary moral values, there's no proof to the origin of the universe, no right way to prevent socialism but allow those that are less fortunate (such as those that are born disabled) to live a normal life without being in debt in the hundreds of thousands or millions. We can't even figure out how to fix our crumbling road and bridge structure properly.

P&N needs to be about discussion, not trolling, flaming, and personal attacks.

 

[Idontcare]

Just to be clear then.

Do you consider ~ and the word around to be equal or does the ~ have to used be here at all times?

~, around, approx, roughly, near, about, etc...all work

This isn't meant to be semantic or pedantic, but when it obviously bothers people and enough folks have gone to an effort to make the point about it then it behooves that member to accommodate the expressed desire for the clarifier to be added.

Its about being practical rather than hung-up on semantics. Compromise has to enter into the equation at some point, otherwise the discussion is pointless.

Surely you meant to have a point regarding your gas purchasing experience, but that point was completely lost on those with whom you intended to impress it upon when they took exception to your rounding the numbers involved without delineating them as being rounded and you took exception to them taking such exception.

Unproductive at that point. Compromise must be struck, in the absence of compromise we have the posting guidelines to fall back on as the "law of the land" in settling disputes.

Ideally it can be settled on the field without the refs pulling out their yellow or red cards. But if this was ideal then we wouldn't need the refs.

In theory there is no difference between practice and theory. In practice, there is.

Accommodate your target audience, or risk them not getting your message.

 

[JEDIYoda]

My opinion has not changed.

If you want the word around, then I will use the word around.

Around is Rounding.

You are the one being intellectually dishonest

Arguing this point just reafirms what most of us think and have thought of your posting style.

To even argue and claim that people were spliting hairs in a thread where gas has a definite price....is the way you split hairs.....which is by definition intellectually dishonest...lol

 

[Doppel]

Also TODAY is the first time we have heard of this weird opinion rounding stuff. He knows he is wrong but still cannot admit it.

 

[dmcowen674]

Also TODAY is the first time we have heard of this weird opinion rounding stuff. He knows he is wrong but still cannot admit it.

The only thing weird is you and no I was not wrong.

Gas is still ABOUT $4 here in Chicago, actually there is now a station over the $4 mark as shown by the websites you guys love and it is AROUND $5 in LA also as shown by the websites you guys love.

You still lose on the semantics and splitting hairs and now you have nothing else to say.

Now what are you and your buds going to do?

 

[dmcowen674]

Arguing this point just reafirms what most of us think and have thought of your posting style.

Well I don't like your posting style either and feel you are intellectually dishonest as well.

I don't have to look or reply to your posts just as you don't have to look or reply to mine.

 

[dmcowen674]

This isn't meant to be semantic or pedantic, but when it obviously bothers people and enough folks have gone to an effort to make the point about it

Bottom line is you a few bad apple babies run your forums.

Pretty sad.

 

[JSt0rm]

dave, give it up. If you would just ignore these people then they woudlnt bother you and the rest of us would find the jokes to get old as fuck and begin to ridicule people who still made it.

as for these forums

Leave it as it is. There is so much grey area as to what happens in there that you will hardly ever get people to act according to some high road philosophy. You will just end up dropping the ban hammer on tons of people.

The reason I use massive amounts of profanity on poster such as cyber sage is for the very reasons you highlight in the thread. It is impossible to have a reasoned discussion with them most of the time.

I don't know what the solution is because we are talking about serious shades of grey here. Me saying someone is a idiot after a huge amount of cognitive dissonance is sometimes the best thing you can say to them.

This is why I say leave it alone. Who in the world has time to read every post in politics and news to say if a argument is reasonable or not? I think if moderation stepped into this world it would just be painful for you.

The best course of action is to have a forum where you can dump all of that garbage and not have to worry about it.

 

[cybrsage]

~, around, approx, roughly, near, about, etc...all work

This isn't meant to be semantic or pedantic, but when it obviously bothers people and enough folks have gone to an effort to make the point about it then it behooves that member to accommodate the expressed desire for the clarifier to be added.

Its about being practical rather than hung-up on semantics. Compromise has to enter into the equation at some point, otherwise the discussion is pointless.

Surely you meant to have a point regarding your gas purchasing experience, but that point was completely lost on those with whom you intended to impress it upon when they took exception to your rounding the numbers involved without delineating them as being rounded and you took exception to them taking such exception.

Unproductive at that point. Compromise must be struck, in the absence of compromise we have the posting guidelines to fall back on as the "law of the land" in settling disputes.

Ideally it can be settled on the field without the refs pulling out their yellow or red cards. But if this was ideal then we wouldn't need the refs.

In theory there is no difference between practice and theory. In practice, there is.

Accommodate your target audience, or risk them not getting your message.

Nicely said....especiall the in theory part.

 

[cybrsage]

Excessive use of profanity is the last resort of the incompetent.

 

[Bowfinger]

Excessive use of profanity is the last resort of the incompetent.

It is also a last resort TO the incompetent -- and the dishonest -- when all attempts to use reason and facts are met with a bottomless well of entrenched ignorance or intellectual dishonesty.

 

[cybrsage]

It is also a last resort TO the incompetent -- and dishonest -- when all attempts to use reason and facts are met with a bottomless well of entrenched ignorance or intellectual dishonesty.

No.

 

[shortylickens]

It is also a last resort TO the incompetent -- and the dishonest -- when all attempts to use reason and facts are met with a bottomless well of entrenched ignorance or intellectual dishonesty.

I'd say from now on, no more cussing them out. Just ignore the idiots/trolls.
If THEY get hostile, report them.

 

[Bowfinger]

I'd say from now on, no more cussing them out. Just ignore the idiots/trolls.
If THEY get hostile, report them.

I rarely cuss anyone out. Instead, I've taken to saying, "You're lying again" to call out the dishonest response while offering (almost) nothing to facilitate continued trolling. I think it's nicer than saying, "You're a useless idiot and trying to have a discussion with you is pointless."

 

[JSt0rm]

No.

Just stop. Nobody cares about you and your chosen screen name for 3 months.

 

[cybrsage]

Just stop. Nobody cares about you and your chosen screen name for 3 months.

I am surprised you care...and that you consider yourself a nobody.

You make this too easy...even when your logical fallacy is ignored.

 

[JSt0rm]

Cussing them out is a totally valid way to shut them up. At a dinner party you would put them in a headlock, throw them to the ground and put your made in the usa boot on their neck. Its the internet and we cant do that - yet ()

 

[cybrsage]

You do know that doing that to someone lands you in jail, right? Personally, I think it is the bravery granted you by the Internet speaking...

 

[JSt0rm]

I am surprised you care...and that you consider yourself a nobody.

You make this too easy...even when your logical fallacy is ignored.

oh snap my words were twisted and now I'm a nobody!

 

[JSt0rm]

You do know that doing that to someone lands you in jail, right? Personally, I think it is the bravery granted you by the Internet speaking...

you pollute this place with your retardation. People have the right to throw it right back in your face.

 

[cybrsage]

you pollute this place with your retardation.

I know you are, but what am I? Like I said, you make it too easy. Your best bet is to simply stop being childish.

oh snap my words were twisted and now I'm a nobody!

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