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norseamd

norseamd

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runzwithsizorz said:
If using RCRN or any other FXAA-Injector/ENB mod, turn off any on-screen display programs and monitoring tools such as Fraps, ATI Tray Tools, MSI Afterburner, GPU-Z, etc.
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need clarification. you mean you can not run fraps while playing skyrim with enb or rcrn
 
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there was a comment on open cities thought you might read it and that might be why open cities does not work
 
Cerb

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norseamd said:
there was a comment on open cities thought you might read it and that might be why open cities does not work
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No, it's working fine, but that was a problem with some prior version, and I'm pretty sure it was a problem with CL Cities, which mostly works with the OCS patches, but some NPCs would be in odd places when revisiting the cities, and wouldn't move.

Since getting rid of SMIM, my CTDs have been sparse. Frequent enough to keep autosave manager around, due to bad timing, but not enough to be frustrating. I don't think SMIM is bad, necessarily, since too many people use it fine with plenty of other mods, but that I might need to get a 2+GB VRAM video card to have so much crap in memory within a short enough time span, because every time I tried building up a set of mods, and included it, CTDs and corrupted saves would get more frequent over time, and be worst around Whiterun.
 
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the game that i just got ride had some problems before the first dragon fight. lars battle born dissapeared and then i needed him to gain favor and get inside his house. also a horse would just die from a certain save when i went to the whiterun stables. learned more about the console commands to fix them. turns out lars was not out of the game but in his own house. the horse i managed to fix. this might have been before i installed smim which was somewhat more recently.
 
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been playing with mods.

boss is amazing.

however i need a way to measure my gpu and vram usage and also myh cpu usage.

it runs somewhat slow and has stutters.

this is more than what i ran last time so i would like to see what is happening.
 
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amd 8350
asus 990fx pro 2.0
asus 270x directcu 2 top
asus xonar dx
sandisk ultra plus 128

got msi afterburner to work with skyrim

running and 95 or more of gpu usage
memory usage runs at 1900 to 2000
fps is at 30
frametime is between 30 to 40

and this is after disabling dof

hate to think what it was before

also enabled multi weather systems


have not overclocked yet so may have to do that

seems that i am about maxing my card. was thinking about buying the 280x at shopblt for near stock price. but i would have to have wait for the card.
 
ImpulsE69

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I really enjoy modding this game. Too bad I get bored playing it. It looks pretty..that's about it...
 
norseamd

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ImpulsE69 said:
It looks pretty..that's about it...
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these mods can make some real changes. but other games can do it with dx11 for much easier on the hardware. and they still look much better. skyrim is very poorly coded. although some of these mods do some things that usually are not in dx11 games.
 
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norseamd said:
any good dragon mods?
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The aforementioned Deadly Dragons if you're looking to change them to be a tougher challenge. If you mean meshes/skins to make them look better then check out Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack.

norseamd said:
however i need a way to measure my gpu and vram usage and also myh cpu usage.

it runs somewhat slow and has stutters.

this is more than what i ran last time so i would like to see what is happening.
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Skyrim Performance Monitor will graph your CPU, GPU, RAM, and temps throughout the duration of play. Stuttering is usually a result of too little VRAM. It gets full so then it stutters as old textures are swapped out for the new ones to render.
 
norseamd

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crownjules said:
The aforementioned Deadly Dragons if you're looking to change them to be a tougher challenge. If you mean meshes/skins to make them look better then check out Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack.
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already have it installed. mostly want to increase the power of the lower level dragons. although with requiem installed i may not have to. will look at those texture packs.

crownjules said:
Skyrim Performance Monitor will graph your CPU, GPU, RAM, and temps throughout the duration of play. Stuttering is usually a result of too little VRAM. It gets full so then it stutters as old textures are swapped out for the new ones to render.
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4 gb 270x video cards were available. would this have take care of my problem. some said that the 270x could not use that much ram except in crossfire.

would it have been benficial in productivity software or mods.
 
norseamd

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runzwithsizorz said:
Also this: Tes5edit video:
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does this increase peroformance? would do it for stability at some time but for now i need to increase my performance. have you used boss? that gave me options to clean the main files but was not sure if i should clean the official files.
 
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norseamd said:
does this increase peroformance? would do it for stability at some time but for now i need to increase my performance. have you used boss? that gave me options to clean the main files but was not sure if i should clean the official files.
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No, it will just increase stability, for mods that need it. A mod that needs it may not cause you problems until much later in the game, so fix them ASAP, if BOSS complians, and the mod doesn't make a point to say that the dirty edits are intentional (sometimes they are there as workarounds for something in the game that would otherwise prevent the mod from working, and won't cause problems, but they will say this plainly, if so, and/or it will be noted by BOSS).

If you need to improve performance, there are a handful of ways I can think of off the top of my head:
1. Stop using an ENB, or use a very simple one, like CoT's or ULO+.

2. Unpack the original BSAs, then re-apply all mods; or unpack them, copy into Data, and choose no to all, when asked about overwriting the first conflict file. This won't increase overall FPS, but can help with stutter. I suspect that the game engine buffers and unpacks BSA content in its own memory, causing lots of garbage collection work needing to be done often, or possibly keeps critical threads stuck waiting on locks while it does it; but just uses regular and fast OS mmapped files for loose file content. It can help with stuttering, especially around cities, and sometimes removes crashing around cities for some. It removed stuttering near cities for me. I hadn't mentioned it earlier, because I wanted to go to a mod-compatible backup, and then back to the current Data folder with the unpacked BSAs, to make sure it wasn't the placebo effect.

3. "Optimize" (recompress) textures (DDSOpt is a common util for this). You can see the difference, with many textures, having gone from one lossy scheme to another. But, it can help with stutters, if your VRAM is too little for all the texture mods. Subjectively, they're maybe 80% the quality they used to be, at worst, while sometimes much less than that in size (many mods come already in the best quality v. size formats, though, so the returns may not be much with lots of texture replacers).

And, if anyone wonders how you might use a large SSD, consider doing versioned backups of your 20+GB Data folder, as you try all these things out :cool:.
 
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norseamd

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Cerb said:
2. Unpack the original BSAs, then re-apply all mods, or unpack them, copy into data, and choose no to all, when asked about overwriting. This won't increase overall FPS, but can help with stutter. I suspect that the game engine buffers and unpacks BSA content in its own memory, causing lots of garbage collection work needing to be done often, or possibly just causing lots more locks to be waited on; but just has regular and fast OS mmapped files for loose file content (the OS can have much more RAM to work with than the <4GB virtual memory of of the game). It can help with stuttering, especially around cities, and sometimes removes crashing around cities for some (it removed stuttering near cities for me).
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generally when installing with nexus mod manager i installed the basic texture mods first and then installed the more specific mods after that. 2k hd and smim got replaced a lot. for example bigger and boulder replaced the 2k hd mods textures for mountains and then i replaced some of the rock with the moss rock mod. most texture files only got replace once though. another example would be that i installed real ice first and then replace the glacier textures with real glaciers v2.

after disabling dof there are less stutters. they are not very common but still noticable. maybe like your crashes.

honestly i would like to do as many manual installs as i can. any of those mods installed above that i could do manually?

requiem with frostfall and rnd makes skyrim a lot more interesting again.

nexus mod manager and boss are both installed on my ssd
 
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