JulesMaximus
No Lifer
- Jul 3, 2003
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Did you even graduate from middle school? That is probably the most incoherent post I've ever read.
Just curious, how are the rest of the ATOTers celeberating Jackson's acquital? Personally I am moon walking.
I'm grabbing my crotch while singing in falsetto. Then I'll go play some Moonwalker on my Genesis, and make sure the chick on her knees screams out "Micheal!" while my character's crotch is near her face.
MrChad
Lifer
- Aug 22, 2001
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I didn't follow the trial very much, but from what I've read, the prosecution didn't present a very strong case.
If I had children, I wouldn't feel comfortable leaving them with Michael Jackson. But then again, I probably wouldn't feel comfortable leaving them with any adult whom I didn't know very well. I believe that Michael Jackson is a disturbed and psychologically fragile individual, but that doesn't necessary make him a pedophile or a child molester. I sincerely hope for that child's sake that the jury was correct and he is in fact innocent. If he did get away with it, then that is truly sad, and I hope he seeks treatment to prevent it from happening again.
If I had children, I wouldn't feel comfortable leaving them with Michael Jackson. But then again, I probably wouldn't feel comfortable leaving them with any adult whom I didn't know very well. I believe that Michael Jackson is a disturbed and psychologically fragile individual, but that doesn't necessary make him a pedophile or a child molester. I sincerely hope for that child's sake that the jury was correct and he is in fact innocent. If he did get away with it, then that is truly sad, and I hope he seeks treatment to prevent it from happening again.
Ready for round 2 ???
MJ will be here in New Orleans for Federal Kidnapping charges next month.
A kid alleges MJ molested him and kept him captive for 9 days in 1984 when he was here in New Orleans.
MJ is on a different kind of tour now.
I've got the scoop for the songs he will be performing on his tour
I molest No OnE
Thrilled to be out of Jail
I aint Startin'nothing with Nobody under 18
Gavins' out of my life for good
Acquitted when you're Guilty
Don't Spooge On my wall
I live off Jam & Jelly
In the closet and Staying There
Black or White, I don't know WTF I am
I don't give a sh!t about any of you
Kids at Neverland is Dangerous
Imma BAD mofo doncha know it!
This one is for you Dave, Kisses
Originally posted by: flexy
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: flexy
the whole point is that there PROBABLY were people with an agenda against him.
The same people who run FIRST to lawyers to get advice how to milk him for money - and THEN go to the police (or did they ever go to the police in the first place ?)
The SAME people who claimed their kids have been molested by some security guards at a JC Pennies..and other totally blatant BS which shows the real agenda of those kind of people.
I ADMIT - now *I* am pre-judging, tooBut...
Then they ask the "witnesses" what actually happened and they couldnt even repeat TWICE what the actual accusations were...their whole story and accusations just didnt have ANY grounds and changed, often they couldnt even remember or just contradicted themselves...etc..etc..
And thats also the reason i am not suprised at all he was found innocent because the trial and the MONEY spent on it was a really big farce - this was clear after i semi-followed it for a few days in the news etc.
so the kid's fingerprint on the porn magazines were not real?
no they actually are...but they prove, what ?
The kid touched/held the DVD.
Thats all they prove. Sorry for that. Need more substance than this to make any statement which goes further.
Even that the kid actually LOOKED at the porn is rather a speculation (its likely, tho)...but its not proven by the prints. AND of course NOT that he watched the porn w/ MJ together and everything ELSE implied.
Speculation.
Actually... from what I read.. the fingerprints on the mag went something like this....
during the grand jury.. the prosecutor gave the kid the mag and asked if it was the one that MJ had given him and they looked at together... and the kid said YES. so the prosecutor said... not so fast... they all look alike...look carefully...
so the kid thumbs thru the mag... and says it is the same one...
the defense ... asks the police if they had happened to fingerprint the mag BEFORE the kid had it during the grand jury and the answer was ...NO...
and another one of the mags that the kid SWORE he looked at with MJ was not even out until mnths after the allegation.
Fixed for you.
Edit: If Osama ever is caught all he has to do is demand he appears before a regular jury.
He may have been proven "not guilty", but....... he's still a perv, with a propensity for kids.
Give it time. At some later date, it will be another case, another kid. BTW, the parents would have been just as guilty. What f*cking parent in their right mind would let their child sleep in a 40+ year old man's bed, anyway? I mean, I gotta give credit where it's due.
If any of this really happened, the parents are just as much to blame!
Give it time. At some later date, it will be another case, another kid. BTW, the parents would have been just as guilty. What f*cking parent in their right mind would let their child sleep in a 40+ year old man's bed, anyway? I mean, I gotta give credit where it's due.
If any of this really happened, the parents are just as much to blame!
Wow, just read every post in this crazy thread (except the incoherent ones) and had to give my own thoughts, just like everyone else.
First, regarding civil cases. The burden of proof becomes "by a preponderance of the evidence". Someone already defined what this means, but for the benefit of those reading I'll post a definition gleaned from Google:
Regarding the case itself, I personally felt there was a clear lack of evidence presented by the prosecution to even come close, much less meet, their burden of proof. I didn't follow the details that closely, but nothing I heard told me "this child was molested" in any way, shape, or form, except words from the accuser's mouth, which are not very convincing or credible to say the least. I didn't hear enough about the alcohol accusations to make any reasonable conclusion about those.
Finally, to those claiming that the previous settlement in a similar case against Jackson is damning evidence, I would tend to disagree. Consider, if you were a crazy millionaire that liked children excessively (but non-sexually), but had the awareness (or at least had people around you with the awareness) that your actions with children would be seen as questionable by the common public, wouldn't you rather pay off the accuser than waste time in court? I'm not saying that is necessarily what happened, but I would argue that is about as likely as him actually paying somebody off to keep quiet because of guilt.
First, regarding civil cases. The burden of proof becomes "by a preponderance of the evidence". Someone already defined what this means, but for the benefit of those reading I'll post a definition gleaned from Google:
Regarding the case itself, I personally felt there was a clear lack of evidence presented by the prosecution to even come close, much less meet, their burden of proof. I didn't follow the details that closely, but nothing I heard told me "this child was molested" in any way, shape, or form, except words from the accuser's mouth, which are not very convincing or credible to say the least. I didn't hear enough about the alcohol accusations to make any reasonable conclusion about those.
Finally, to those claiming that the previous settlement in a similar case against Jackson is damning evidence, I would tend to disagree. Consider, if you were a crazy millionaire that liked children excessively (but non-sexually), but had the awareness (or at least had people around you with the awareness) that your actions with children would be seen as questionable by the common public, wouldn't you rather pay off the accuser than waste time in court? I'm not saying that is necessarily what happened, but I would argue that is about as likely as him actually paying somebody off to keep quiet because of guilt.
I find him GUILTY! Of being weird!
Other than that I'm not convinced that the accusers were truly victoms in this. The reason? Because of the way the entire thing was handled by them and that their motivation was financial. Michael with his eccentricities made him an easy target.
Do I feel Michael is a pedophile? Yes i do. An I convinced beyond a reasonable doubt? Nope!
Other than that I'm not convinced that the accusers were truly victoms in this. The reason? Because of the way the entire thing was handled by them and that their motivation was financial. Michael with his eccentricities made him an easy target.
Do I feel Michael is a pedophile? Yes i do. An I convinced beyond a reasonable doubt? Nope!
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