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Mitt Romney's Big Bird Attack Threatens Thousands Of U.S. Jobs

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werepossum said:
M'kay . . .

You don't find it even a little strange that the "profoundly conservative" "corporate" media continuously declares that Obama's already won the election, or would devote an entire day to pushing the President's health care plan while not even allowing the conservatives to BUY air time, or repeatedly get overheard disparaging their presumptive conservative brethren?

Perhaps you should ask the opinions of those nice men who tie your sleeves behind your back.
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Heh. Explaining the healthcare plan isn't the same as pushing it, and allowing Repubs to buy air time to engage in dissembling at the same time would be counter productive to actually explaining it. Mo point in allowing them to interjected "death panel!" raving & political posturing when you're just trying to put out the facts, which they do on occasion.

The media just publishes the results of the surveys conducted, which indicate that Obama is the likely winner. Cite the instances where they've declared Obama to be the winner.

It's not like Obama is really much of a Liberal, anyway. He's just not a raving right wing looney tune, either, which sets right wing looney tunes to claiming that he's really an islamofascist gay marrying commie who makes the baby Jesus cry by feeding poor children & killing Osama Bin Laden.

I'm the guy in the straight jacket? Really? Here's a great explanation of how it really works-

But it's also important that the movement-conservative marketplace not go veering off into dangerous looney-land. And that's really, really likely if you're not feeding that beast. If you're not giving them something reasonably safe to be outraged about, they're likely to go looking for outrages in, say, the latest press releases from the Gun Owners' Action League, or the latest book from Regnery, or worse.

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So that's a big part of the reason why, for example, the Romney campaign (presumably) dropped an old Obama "I believe in distribution" clip on Drudge the other day -- not because it's useful to the overall goals of the campaign, but because they needed to give the movement-conservative marketplace something to focus their outrage on, before they either start losing interest in hating Obama, or start talking really, really, crazy batwankery.
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http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/ta...-movement-conservative-marketplace-beast.aspx

The media, naturally, is right there to toss out the chunks of red meat furnished by Repub leaders...
 
Jhhnn said:
Heh. Explaining the healthcare plan isn't the same as pushing it, and allowing Repubs to buy air time to engage in dissembling at the same time would be counter productive to actually explaining it. Mo point in allowing them to interjected "death panel!" raving & political posturing when you're just trying to put out the facts, which they do on occasion.

The media just publishes the results of the surveys conducted, which indicate that Obama is the likely winner. Cite the instances where they've declared Obama to be the winner.

It's not like Obama is really much of a Liberal, anyway. He's just not a raving right wing looney tune, either, which sets right wing looney tunes to claiming that he's really an islamofascist gay marrying commie who makes the baby Jesus cry by feeding poor children & killing Osama Bin Laden.

I'm the guy in the straight jacket? Really? Here's a great explanation of how it really works-



http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/ta...-movement-conservative-marketplace-beast.aspx

The media, naturally, is right there to toss out the chunks of red meat furnished by Repub leaders...
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Well, I certainly can't argue with a staff writer who has a blog. What a unique and powerful qualification of sagery sagacity! If he says the media is doing the behest of the Romney campaign, obviously it must be true.

I yearn for the good old days when blogs were called diaries, written exclusively by fourteen year old girls, covered with rainbows and unicorns and rainbow-colored unicorns, and kept safely hidden away rather than exposing their inanity for all to see. (Apologies to whichever writer I robbed of that line. I am NOT the Messiah, I'm a very naught boy.) And for the record, I would have been willing to agree that the Drudge Report is not liberal, even without a blog from such an impressive individual.
 
werepossum said:
Well, I certainly can't argue with a staff writer who has a blog. What a unique and powerful qualification of sagery sagacity! If he says the media is doing the behest of the Romney campaign, obviously it must be true.

I yearn for the good old days when blogs were called diaries, written exclusively by fourteen year old girls, covered with rainbows and unicorns and rainbow-colored unicorns, and kept safely hidden away rather than exposing their inanity for all to see. (Apologies to whichever writer I robbed of that line. I am NOT the Messiah, I'm a very naught boy.) And for the record, I would have been willing to agree that the Drudge Report is not liberal, even without a blog from such an impressive individual.
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Well, you certainly do a good job of ignoring the obvious truth in what he said, preferring instead to attack the writer rather than the writing. When Repub leaders fail to direct the craziness of their base into safe territory, we get things like Birtherism and the "keep your gubmint hands off my Medicare" Teahadist ravings, not to mention well publicized rants from prominent fringe-whacks like Wayne LaPierre, Kurt Akin & others.

Which is just another way of putting on a smug blanket of denial, asserting manipulation of team spirit as some sort of reason.
 
While I think it was dumb of him to mention cutting PBS funding, the hard cold truth is that some cuts need to be made. 1/4 of the TV I watch is PBS and half of the radio I listen is NPR, so I am a fan. I am not saying that we should cut PBS, but we have to cut some where, and we have to make alot of cuts. We should probably start with the salaries of our elected officials seeing that they are at least partially responsible for getting us all into this horrible mess.

Oh yeah, let's face it, while Sesame Street is not all of PBS, it is hardly the quality show it was when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s. It has turned into the entertainment-driven garbage most TV is nowadays, dumbed-down for the toddlers instead of encouraging them to stretch their minds.
 
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spittledip said:
While I think it was dumb of him to mention cutting PBS funding, the hard cold truth is that some cuts need to be made. 1/4 of the TV I watch is PBS and half of the radio I listen is NPR, so I am a fan. I am not saying that we should cut PBS, but we have to cut some where, and we have to make alot of cuts. We should probably start with the salaries of our elected officials seeing that they are at least partially responsible for getting us all into this horrible mess.

Oh yeah, let's face it, while Sesame Street is not all of PBS, it is hardly the quality show it was when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s. It has turned into the entertainment-driven garbage most TV is nowadays, dumbed-down for the toddlers instead of encouraging them to stretch their minds.
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Oh, please. Total annual subsidies to all of public broadcasting don't even equal the pricetag of three F35's, and we're scheduled to build over 4000 of them. The price of public broadcasting is insignificant compared to the price of a Ford-class supercarrier, to the war in Iraq, to military aid to Israel.

Where the Hell is your sense of proportion, anyway?
 
Jhhnn said:
Oh, please. Total annual subsidies to all of public broadcasting don't even equal the pricetag of three F35's, and we're scheduled to build over 4000 of them. The price of public broadcasting is insignificant compared to the price of a Ford-class supercarrier, to the war in Iraq, to military aid to Israel.

Where the Hell is your sense of proportion, anyway?
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You forgot to put on your reading glasses.
 
spittledip said:
You forgot to put on your reading glasses.
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I don't think so-

PBS is funded indirectly by Congress through the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB; which funds both PBS and National Public Radio). For fiscal year 2010, $281m out of CPB's $422m appropriation went to public television, $210m to local stations and $71m to PBS directly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pub...). In 2010, PBS had revenues of around $570m (http://www.pbs.org/about/media/a...), meaning federal funding via CPB accounted for about 12% of PBS 2010 annual revenues. Note that some of that federal funding for local stations will also make it back indirectly to PBS in the form of programming fees, so the total percentage could be considered higher.
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http://www.quora.com/What-portion-of-PBS-funding-comes-from-the-federal-government

The price of a new supercarrier?

Construction began on components of CVN-78 in the spring of 2007,[11] and is planned to finish in 2015. It is under construction at Newport News Shipbuilding, a division of Huntington Ingalls Industries (formerly Northrop Grumman Shipbuilding) in Newport News, Virginia, the only shipyard in the United States capable of building nuclear-powered aircraft carriers. In 2005, it was estimated to cost at least $8 billion excluding the $5 billion spent on research and development (though that was not expected to be representative of the cost of future members of the class).[9] A 2009 report said that the Ford would cost $14 billion including research and development, and the actual cost of the carrier itself would be $9 billion.[12]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_R._Ford_class_aircraft_carrier

F35?

By contrast, the F-35′s unit cost should stabilize at around $157 million, owing to a massive 2,443-plane production run. That’s assuming the Joint Strike Fighter doesn’t get canceled or curtailed following revelations of new design flaws.
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http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/12/f-22-real-cost/

That's just the price of the hardware. Actual operating expenses will dwarf that. I misquoted the number of planned F35 production- it's "only" 2443...

Cost of the war in Iraq? well north of $1T, with direct expenditures ~$700-800B, but who's counting, right? We'll just take it out on Big Bird, claim fiscal responsibility and if we can just de-fund PP, why, it'll darn near balance the budget, right?
 
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Todd33 said:
Well if a nation of kids learns to count (Ah Ah Ah One Two!) then they will never vote for a Romney like person with fuzzy math where you can slash revenue and increase spending to reduce the deficit.
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Lib types think that economies can't grow. I guess under Obama this is true.
 
shortylickens said:
Compared to the millions he and his fellow politicians pissed away I dont think its a big deal.
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So let me get this straight. Since there is other wasted money we shouldn't mind if we waste money on something else?

Hey, Hitler killed 6 million Jews. I guess it doesn't matter if you kill a mere 2.
 
Jhhnn said:
Assumes money spent on PBS is wasted, which it's not.
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I don't know if PBS is a waste of money or not but the statement I was responding to
Compared to the millions he and his fellow politicians pissed away I dont think its a big deal.
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seems to indicate that whether it is a waste or not doesn't matter. Lets just keep spending it and not caring about it because we waste money on other things.
 
PJABBER said:
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Seriously, if Sesame Street wants to keep producing programming all they have to do is pick up more sponsors and switch networks to FOX.

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It is time to slash a lot of nice to have but unessential programs. ALL of the cuts will affect someone who will then have a sob story.

So, for all of the sob stories to come, here is your personal boo hoo bumper sticker -

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The best job creator would be to execute anybody with money and spread the wealth around. The number of ecological niches opened up would be enormous and spur economic evolution. Of course there would be a lot of sobbing from the current crop of haves.
 
Moonbeam said:
The best job creator would be to execute anybody with money and spread the wealth around. The number of ecological niches opened up would be enormous and spur economic evolution. Of course there would be a lot of sobbing from the current crop of haves.
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buckshot24 said:
Good Lord.

So you murder the people who know how to create wealth and give it to people who don't?
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Not that I agree with Moonbeam's hyperbole, but there's a difference between people who actually create wealth and those who merely concentrate it.

Is the world really a richer place because of Mitt's financial machinations, or is it just that Mitt & Co are richer while their victims are poorer?

If I win a giant synthetic derivatives bet, have I created wealth or just transferred it from somebody else to my own bank account?

If I were a builder whose company ultimately failed to show a profit after employing hundreds of workers building thousands of homes, have I failed to create wealth?

When govts, international agencies & non-profits cooperate to create & disseminate modern high yield disease resistant varieties of rice, corn & wheat, do we measure the wealth created by their profit, or by some other measure?

Do I measure my wealth strictly by what's mine, or should I include the wealth I share with others- roads, schools, bridges, parks, libraries, fire protection, police, safe food & drugs, so forth & so on?

Who created that, if not the American people?
 
Have to admit Romney's got a real spine.

He'll go after Big Bird for 200-300 M but not the oil industry for 4B

What leadership!!
 
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