Missouri Police Officer guns down unarmed 18 year old

[LTC8K6]

That's where this *RUMOUR* is sourced

http://theconservativetreehouse.com...-did-try-for-officers-gun-acquittal-probable/

I know, I saw it already.

If you read down through the FB posts, it seems to get weaker as you go.

 

[alzan]

I guess that's at the root of the problem then. I know how I'd be defending myself in this situation. A 6' 4", 300 pound individual having just fractured my eye socket while trying to take my weapon from me that btw was fired and missed me, who is now running towards me would get the strongest response I could muster. You, on the other hand would probably smile at him and offer him a cool drink of water and a handshake.

Typical clueless response; you have no idea what I would do. Although I'm sure typing that response gave your e-penis a raging hard on.

 

[alzan]

Of course not now, we know it didn't kill him. That's a piece of a more developed picture that is forming, of which the assault on Wilson is a piece.

The assualt on Wilson does show Brown was a threat and a life threatening threat at that for what should be clear reasons. The developing picture of events is surrounding was the punch followed up by more threats? Was Brown charging the officer when the fatal shots were fired?

A charging MB who just assaulted the officer is different than a charging MB absent the prior assault. Both are bad, one is quite a bit worse.


Murder is the case if Wilson fires on a fleeing brown and then kills brown once brown turns around and surrenders with hands up. If reports are true, there are numerous eyewitness accounts stating Brown charged Wilson when fatal shots landed.

Important to remember that the witnesses favorable to Crump and Co have been lawyered up and paraded around on national TV. Given the situation, it's expected for eyewitness whose accounts support Wilson's account would be hidden. I think what we've seen is gross and dangerous irresponsibility by those stoking the flames here like Crump and his side kick, a side kick who had the audacity to claim they were moving forward with caution for their explanations of what occurred (WILSON MURDERED THAT BOY IN COLD BLOOD!)

I see. And in your expert medical opinion, exactly what percentage of the time does someone who's received a punch to the eye die?

You don't need a life-threatening injury to use deadly force. That's like saying you should wait until you are dead to fight back. You just need a reasonable belief that you will receive bodily harm, like charging at the officer. The fracture to the eye socket just lends more credibility towards the officer's side of the events. All the officer needs now is one witness that says Mike Brown charged him to establish a very high degree of justifiable homicide. According to reports, he already has plenty of eye witnesses that can verify his story. However, I doubt those witnesses will put themselves on national TV.

Should the case make it to trial, justifiable homicide will be for the jury to decide.

It's still quite possible that the incident will be white-washed (pun intended) and go away.

 

[ivwshane]

I'm not sure. you have the governor telling saying that vigorous prosecution needs to happen. you have the Attorney General himself coming for some reason.

i have my doubts if he can.

while the evidence coming out now is really looking like it was justified. I am glad that people (media) are talking about militarization of the police. I think it took the police attacking the media to get them to talk about it

Justified? Exactly what evidence are you talking about that justifies browns death? An edited surveillance video? Conflicting accounts of what happened?

 

[Vic]

So who thinks hte cop is going to get a fair trial?

when you have the governor saying "a vigorous prosecution must now be pursued" in a video?

Every fair trial requires a vigorous prosecution as well as an equally vigorous defense. Welcome to the rule of law.

 

[Sulaco]

Justified? Exactly what evidence are you talking about that justifies browns death? An edited surveillance video? Conflicting accounts of what happened?

Precisely the same evidence that justifies the prosecution of the officer? That is to say, eye witness accounts that starkly contrast the early narrative of hands being raised and/or shots fired into the back. Accounts of a charging MB who had already assaulted the officer.

 

[alzan]

Yeah, that's it. We are slowly getting information showing that this thug got what he deserved. And it's slowly coming out that the looters think they "deserve" more.

The only racists here are the ones who scream "whitey killed our babies!" every fucking time this happens, everybody jumps the gun and blames the white(ish) guy, immediately, without looking at things objectively and waiting for the investigation to play out.

Look at the fucksticks in this thread "OMG, THIS GUY WAS A MODEL CITIZEN, THUG COP!" Now that narrative is slowly turning.

Yes, because you have more than ample evidence that MB was never ever going to turn his life around and that every single action taken by him were the actions of a "thug".

Grow up little boy.

 

[QueBert]

The authorities, prosecution, powers-that-be, et al have the witness accounts from all sources. Out of fear for witnessess (at the ones that a nugget of truth can be gleaned from) are being protected for the witnesses own safety.

What do you think would happen if they released the names of the witnesses, both white and black, that back up the Officer's version? They would be hunted down, harrassed, and possibly assaulted/killed from the mob justice that MB's family, attorneys, and race-profiteers have whipped up.

My guess is that the officer will be charged and put on trial...it won't be a serving of justice or anything of that nature...it will be a mob-induced and race-petitioned thirst for blood that the race-profiteers are pushing. MB's parents will get donations and support and live better than they lived before. They will be martyrs...stas...celebrities. They went into this grieving parents and as a parent I can understand that grief and empathize with them. Unfortunately, they have quickly turned into part of the problem. They just want the head of the white cop that shot their 'gentle giant'.

Their son is DEAD, I don't see how you could even say that, wow.

 

[ivwshane]

Precisely the same evidence that justifies the prosecution of the officer? That is to say, eye witness accounts that starkly contrast the early narrative of hands being raised and/or shots fired into the back. Accounts of a charging MB who had already assaulted the officer.

You don't see me condemning the officer or saying he is guilty did you? Do you see me saying brown was innocent? The person I was replying to said the evidence is pointing to browns death as being justified, I'm asking what evidence is that.

 

[LTC8K6]

Every fair trial requires a vigorous prosecution as well as an equally vigorous defense. Welcome to the rule of law.

You don't prosecute unless you believe the defendant committed the crime.

It was an awful stupid thing to say, and it will likely come up in venue negotiations if there is a trial, imo.

 

[LTC8K6]

http://www.abc17news.com/news/key-witness-in-ferguson-wanted-in-jefferson-city/27624066

Johnson was apparently charged with filing a false police report in 2011.

 

[SandEagle]

eyewitness video, full:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e94_1408294281
warning: ghetto speak.

best LL comment:

"I don't know, I still believe the ghetto version, the cop driving down the street grabbed 6'4" 250 lb Brown and tried to pull him through the little police vehicle window, so he could place him on his own lap then arrest him. But changed his mind and decided to throw away a $60,000 dollar a year job, with great benefits and full pension, just so he could shoot a guy he never met before. Ghetto logic friends."

 

[Sinsear]

http://www.abc17news.com/news/key-witness-in-ferguson-wanted-in-jefferson-city/27624066

Johnson was apparently charged with filing a false police report in 2011.

And has a warrant out for his arrest

 

[Vic]

You don't prosecute unless you believe the defendant committed the crime.

It was an awful stupid thing to say, and it will likely come up in venue negotiations if there is a trial, imo.

Is it disputed that an unarmed person was shot 6 times?

 

[Vic]

eyewitness video, full:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e94_1408294281
warning: ghetto speak.

best LL comment:

"I don't know, I still believe the ghetto version, the cop driving down the street grabbed 6'4" 250 lb Brown and tried to pull him through the little police vehicle window, so he could place him on his own lap then arrest him. But changed his mind and decided to throw away a $60,000 dollar a year job, with great benefits and full pension, just so he could shoot a guy he never met before. Ghetto logic friends."

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity (or incompetence)."

 

[QueBert]

eyewitness video, full:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e94_1408294281
warning: ghetto speak.

best LL comment:

"I don't know, I still believe the ghetto version, the cop driving down the street grabbed 6'4" 250 lb Brown and tried to pull him through the little police vehicle window, so he could place him on his own lap then arrest him. But changed his mind and decided to throw away a $60,000 dollar a year job, with great benefits and full pension, just so he could shoot a guy he never met before. Ghetto logic friends."

There are plenty of innocent people killed by the police, I don't think that comment holds any weight. Plenty of cops shoot 1st and think about their actions later. I mean the reality is many have shot an unarmed person and what happened to them? Paid vacation while it was investigated. The officer here will ultimately get the benefit of the doubt when the trial comes. I mean the media's doing everything they can to make Fergerson look bad. He was big, he was black, he had stolen 99 cent Swishers earlier that day.

 

[KK]

Their son is DEAD, I don't see how you could even say that, wow.

Waah, waah, waah....I'm sure they don't give two shits. Speaks wonders of their parenting skills, raising a thug like that.

 

[LTC8K6]

Is it disputed that an unarmed person was shot 6 times?

Can a person who shot an unarmed person 6 times be innocent of a crime?

In fact, aren't they legally innocent until a jury finds them guilty?

 

[Svnla]

Peaceful my butt

But a day after Brown died, violence erupted. Stores were looted. A gas station was torched. Shots were fired at police.

= http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...n-ferguson-mo-had-little-to-do-with-ferguson/

 

[dmcowen674]

Governor wants Officer Wilson prosecuted

8-19-2014

http://news.yahoo.com/gov-nixon-calls-vigorous-prosecution-darren-wilson-041624592.html

Gov. Nixon Calls For ‘Vigorous Prosecution’ Of Darren Wilson



Not content with a regular prosecution or a vigorous investigation, Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon said he hopes that Ferguson, Missouri, police officer Darren Wilson will receive a “vigorous prosecution” in the shooting death of Michael Brown on Aug. 9.


“A vigorous prosecution must now be pursued,” Nixon said in a five minute video address posted to his website Tuesday.


“The democratically elected St. Louis county prosecutor and the attorney general of the United States each have a job to do,” said Nixon, a Democrat.


“Their obligation to achieve justice in the shooting death of Michael Brown must be carried out thoroughly, promptly, and correctly,” said Nixon of investigators.

 

[Vic]

Can a person who shot an unarmed person 6 times be innocent of a crime?

In fact, aren't they legally innocent until a jury finds them guilty?

Of course, but a trial is pretty much SOP whenever an unarmed person is shot and killed. Just because the shooter has a badge doesn't put him above the scrutiny of the law.

 

[CitizenKain]

eyewitness video, full:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e94_1408294281
warning: ghetto speak.

best LL comment:

"I don't know, I still believe the ghetto version, the cop driving down the street grabbed 6'4" 250 lb Brown and tried to pull him through the little police vehicle window, so he could place him on his own lap then arrest him. But changed his mind and decided to throw away a $60,000 dollar a year job, with great benefits and full pension, just so he could shoot a guy he never met before. Ghetto logic friends."

Here is the thing: It keeps happening. Its not like this is some isolated incident where a cop somehow mistakenly shoots someone. People are shot by police, either out of malice, incompetence or simply not giving a fuck.

Most rarely see any repercussions, and only when there is sufficient public outcry that the case can't swept under a rug.

The thing is, nothing on this will be fixed until it happens to a rich white kid. Until then, most people will go "Good, the thug got we he deserved" if the victim is black/hispanic, or "Too bad, shit happens I guess" if they asian or a poor white person. Nevermind the victim will have to be a saint, any prior dealings with the police will be drug into the light, their character assassinated, all while the police officer is protected.

The narrative isn't controlled by the victim, as it was seen the name of the officer was released at the same as an edited video was put out to turn the discussion away from the officer. Whenever things seem to turn, why suddenly there is a little nugget of info dropped that is generally made up of just the right amount of bullshit to drag the discussion away.

Soon as the video made its rounds and people started seeing holes in it, why now the poor officer suffered this massive head wound. Why he was walking around without difficulty after suffering this grievous wound is not worth mentioning apparently.

Waah, waah, waah....I'm sure they don't give two shits. Speaks wonders of their parenting skills, raising a thug like that.

I'm sure child of a rapist drunk like yourself has much to say on parenting skills. If you can make things up, I don't see why I can't. I bet mine is more accurate.

 

[LTC8K6]

Of course, but a trial is pretty much SOP whenever an unarmed person is shot and killed. Just because the shooter has a badge doesn't put him above the scrutiny of the law.

Right, and if the Governor announces that he wants the defendant prosecuted vigorously, it is very unfair to the defendant.

It is equivalent to an announcement that Wilson should not be prosecuted.

The Governor should be neutral.

 

[LTC8K6]

Here is the thing: It keeps happening. Its not like this is some isolated incident where a cop somehow mistakenly shoots someone. People are shot by police, either out of malice, incompetence or simply not giving a fuck.

Most rarely see any repercussions, and only when there is sufficient public outcry that the case can't swept under a rug.

The thing is, nothing on this will be fixed until it happens to a rich white kid. Until then, most people will go "Good, the thug got we he deserved" if the victim is black/hispanic, or "Too bad, shit happens I guess" if they asian or a poor white person. Nevermind the victim will have to be a saint, any prior dealings with the police will be drug into the light, their character assassinated, all while the police officer is protected.

The narrative isn't controlled by the victim, as it was seen the name of the officer was released at the same as an edited video was put out to turn the discussion away from the officer. Whenever things seem to turn, why suddenly there is a little nugget of info dropped that is generally made up of just the right amount of bullshit to drag the discussion away.

Soon as the video made its rounds and people started seeing holes in it, why now the poor officer suffered this massive head wound. Why he was walking around without difficulty after suffering this grievous wound is not worth mentioning apparently.

An orbital blowout fracture, not that there was one with Wilson, often results in double vision, which is not too debilitating. Often there are no symptoms other than pain, swelling, and a developing black eye.

You would not necessarily see any sign of such a fracture without a close look at the person, until a bruise develops.

One thing is for sure, if Wilson has such an injury, we will hear about it from a reliable source and we won't have to wonder.

 

[CitizenKain]

An orbital blowout fracture, not that there was one with Wilson, often results in double vision, which is not too debilitating. Often there are no symptoms other than pain, swelling, and a developing black eye.

You would not necessarily see any sign of such a fracture without a close look at the person, until a bruise develops.

One thing is for sure, if Wilson has such an injury, we will hear about it from a reliable source and we won't have to wonder.

Considering the only source right now is a right wing blog that is known for completely fabricating things, I doubt it. Also, that would have been something that would have shown up day one, not a week later.