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Lost_in_the_HTTP said:
I just don't get the whole shoot-shoot-shoot thing.

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Police chief: Fatal Minnesota shooting was likely accident; cop meant to use Taser - UPI.com

The fatal shooting of a Minnesota man during a traffic stop was likely accidental, Brooklyn Center Police Chief Tim Gannon said Monday. The officer meant to use a Taser, but instead fired a gun.
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Warrior cop mentality is my guess.

Lost_in_the_HTTP said:
One says they shot him before he got back in the car, another say after.
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Neither of those sounds like a threat to life... I hope a competent investigation provides more context.
"I thought he was going to get a gun" isn't gonna cut it.
 
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KMFJD

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Don't worry , the cops and rwm have already started their 'he was no an angel' defense

Pulled over because of an air freshener hanging from his rear-view mirror that was "obstructing his view," aka DWB, then after shooting him they left his body on the street for 6 hours....
 
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Homerboy

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Fenixgoon said:
Warrior cop mentality is my guess.



Neither of those sounds like a threat to life... I hope a competent investigation provides more context.
"I thought he was going to get a gun" isn't gonna cut it.
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it was a threat to their "authority" though. And that's all these guys feel they need.
 
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KMFJD said:
Don't worry , the cops and rwm have already started their 'he was no an angel' defense

Pulled over because of an air freshener hanging from his rear-view mirror that was "obstructing his view," aka DWB, then after shooting him they left his body on the street for 6 hours....
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Laws like that are practically made up to allow cops to pull over whomever they feel like. I see people driving around all the time with shit hanging on the rearview mirror, hell it seems like 90% of cars have a mask hanging from the mirror nowadays.
 
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VashHT said:
Laws like that are practically made up to allow cops to pull over whomever they feel like. I see people driving around all the time with shit hanging on the rearview mirror, hell it seems like 90% of cars have a mask hanging from the mirror nowadays.
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I'd love to shoot the crystal people. Ever drive behind one of them with the crystals hanging?
 
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VashHT said:
Laws like that are practically made up to allow cops to pull over whomever they feel like. I see people driving around all the time with shit hanging on the rearview mirror, hell it seems like 90% of cars have a mask hanging from the mirror nowadays.
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False probable cause excuses, that's what I see them as. Open-ended doors for police to over-step bounds.
 
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Just release the video regardless of what happened. The video is the closest thing to the truth of the incident in most cases.
 
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Lost_in_the_HTTP

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The bits I've pieced together so far ...

They stopped him ... he complied initially enough for them to ID him. He panicked likely in fear of his life (which turned out to be a valid fear), he fled.

It should have stopped there. They knew who he was. They could have gove to his house and waited for him. He may have been less fearful at home with family and the arrest for the warrants may have been uneventful.

Yes, trhat could have gone bad too ... some families have been known to harbor fugitives and become violent defending them.
 
KMFJD

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Lost_in_the_HTTP said:
The bits I've pieced together so far ...

They stopped him ... he complied initially enough for them to ID him. He panicked likely in fear of his life (which turned out to be a valid fear), he fled.

It should have stopped there. They knew who he was. They could have gove to his house and waited for him. He may have been less fearful at home with family and the arrest for the warrants may have been uneventful.

Yes, trhat could have gone bad too ... some families have been known to harbor fugitives and become violent defending them.
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they only give that courtesy to white insurrectionists
 
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he also had misdemeanor marijuana possession charge from last summer...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1381655373350756354

accidental discharge
 
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Yea, just saw the video and the twitter statement above is correct.

I don't think you can call it an "accident" to shoot someone with a gun instead of a taser though. More like negligent homicide. The chief of police explained that the handgun is holstered on the dominant side and the taser on the other side. I understand this, since you need the most control in the hand with the gun. OTOH, it seems like in a split second situation, it would make it more reflexive to draw the gun instead of the taser. Obviously, that is not excuse, as the officer has the responsibility to use the correct amount of force.
 
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Reports coming out that the officer accidentally pulled her gun instead of his taser. Assume she is covered under qualified immunity? I bet she gets a slap on the wrist and ends up back on duty.
 
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It is probably time to talk seriously about removing most to nearly all traffic enforcement from PDs.
 
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If the officer doesn't know the difference between her gun and her taser, or where they are located on her persons, that person should not be a fucking police officer.

From the video it does seem like she clearly meant to fire her taser and not her gun and it was a huge f-up on her part. But the end result is the same no matter what happened - she killed someone.
 
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Holy F... will this never end???
Fox News focusing only on the unrest and protest. I guess if you’re black you are not allowed to protest and show anger??? You must be white and MEGA to have the privilege to protest. So... this was a mistake by law enforcement? Reminds me of the surgeon that removed a kidney instead of the appendix. Oops, sorry bout that fella.
 
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I hated to do it but I watched the video and it does look like an accident. It also seems like she was on the force for a while so what the eff training did she receive? Clearly she had no business patrolling the streets.
 
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zzyzxroad said:
Reports coming out that the officer accidentally pulled her gun instead of his taser. Assume she is covered under qualified immunity? I bet she get a slap on the wrist and ends up back on duty.
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This is not a good sign if the officer was a female. You might have pro-feminine groups protest along side with the police supporters claiming womens rights and asking for a fair trial. A group like "Women for Trump" would most likely be in the pro-police officer protest.
 
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