Millennial Job Interview, Funny!

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Chaotic42

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AH he'll no. 1-2 hour lunches? Start at 10AM?

You're fired!
It depends on what you're doing. As long as you're around for meetings and to interact with your clients (internal, external, or both), I don't see odd hours as a problem. Sometimes I get really productive at 9pm and will work all night. I don't feel like it makes me a bad employee.
 

nakedfrog

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I'm still trying to figure out where you and purbeast work that you don't regularly have to work more than 40. Even if your task only takes 35, how have you not been identified as someone who gets things done and given more work?

The only time I was certain I'd never do over 40 was at NASA.
The expectation where I've been working for years now is 40/week, and the arrangement has long been that in the unusual instances where I end up working more than 40, I take comp time within the next week or two to offset it.
 

ultimatebob

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I don't see the problem if they are getting their work done. I work better at night when it comes to programming. Additionally many times you have to work with teams over seas and working later can be an advantage in terms of time zones and collaboration.

Have to ever seen code that was banged out at 2 am the night before a deadline? It’s not pretty!
 

brianmanahan

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Were you ever around for before that? when they would just smoke at their desks?
I'd rather have them go outside at least .

I came into IT after smoking at your desk had been ruled out, but, some of the old timers still talk about how disgusting some of the smokers keyboards were back in the 90s.

i work with a guy who's 60 and still smokes at work. i swear he spends like 2 hours outside smoking every day.
 

njdevilsfan87

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I'm not kidding when I say we interviewed a 23 year old guy that wanted a 10:30 "Venti break" every day and another 3:30 break to walk his dog.

Yeeeaaahhhhhhhhh.......

1. That's actually very reasonable, and 2. Does the work actually require your employee to be onsite 100% of the time? God forbid people take breaks because sitting in the same spot for 8 hours is awful.
 

Genx87

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Work life paradigm has been shifting for 20ish years. And I for one welcome it. Working 50+ hours a week is horrible. Been luck the last decade or so I rarely make 40 hours of work. I also have a boundary setup when I am off, I am off unless it is a real emergency. For the most part it has kept me sane.
 

Lanyap

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I'm not kidding when I say we interviewed a 23 year old guy that wanted a 10:30 "Venti break" every day and another 3:30 break to walk his dog.

Yeeeaaahhhhhhhhh.......

Did he want to bring his emotional support dog to work with him?
 
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Did he want to bring his emotional support dog to work with him?

A 15 minute break before and after lunch was a standard part of my day when I worked at a grocery store stocking shelves.

If you think that "I'm going to get coffee in the morning and empty my dog in the afternoon" is somehow a "millenial" thing, then I'm sorry you're an idiot.
 

Lanyap

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Many also got jacked up on psychotropic drugs from childhood thanks to their boomer parents. Remember that shit rolls downhill, if they're having a shitty time it's probably because something got dumped on them, one way or another. Decades of wage stagnation, COL increases, and declining job prospects haven't made for a particularly generous offering for up-and-comers, and some can't cope as well as others.

Now, that's not entirely an excuse, as there's a certain measure of bootstrapness that should come with being a grown-ass-adult, but sometimes the cards are stacked enough against you that if you don't have a particular personality or haven't been shown proper coping skills, you might fall apart.

Can't blame this on baby boomers. Baby boomers generally had good parenting skills compared to the last 20-30 years. Both parents are working, buying luxury cars and houses, getting divorced in record numbers, etc.
 

Lanyap

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A 15 minute break before and after lunch was a standard part of my day when I worked at a grocery store stocking shelves.

If you think that "I'm going to get coffee in the morning and empty my dog in the afternoon" is somehow a "millenial" thing, then I'm sorry you're an idiot.

I think you were referring to Fritzo's post. But I'll respond anyway. The interviewee wanted a "Venti break" as opposed to just a regular coffee break. He wanted to walk his dog in the afternoon break. Both at a specific time. So he would probably have to leave the building for both. Nobody asked for that type of stuff until the past 10-20 years. I worked in a large company corporate IT environment for 40+ years and never had anyone request anything like that. They might ask when lunch and breaks were, but not make specific special requests like that. Now if we are talking about Silicone Valley or another highly tech area then that could be true.
 
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I think you were referring to Fritzo's post. But I'll respond anyway. The interviewee wanted a "Venti break" as opposed to just a regular coffee break. He wanted to walk his dog in the afternoon break. Both at a specific time. So he would probably have to leave the building for both. Nobody asked for that type of stuff until the past 10-20 years. I worked in a large company corporate IT environment for 40+ years and never had anyone request anything like that. They might ask when lunch and breaks were, but not make specific special requests like that. Now if we are talking about Silicone Valley or another highly tech area then that could be true.

Yeah, maybe your office was too far from everything. IME, people run all sorts of errands on their breaks, if you're in a built-up enough area that they can do it quick.

Making up a cutesy name for a coffee break is stupid, but that's the biggest problem here.
 

Chaotic42

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There's nothing wrong with employers adapting to employee's schedules when possible. Not only does it make sense, it would be foolish not to at least consider it. If an employee is 10% more effective from 10am-6pm than 7am-3pm, why would you turn that down because "people shouldn't come in at 10"?
 

ultimatebob

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There's nothing wrong with employers adapting to employee's schedules when possible. Not only does it make sense, it would be foolish not to at least consider it. If an employee is 10% more effective from 10am-6pm than 7am-3pm, why would you turn that down because "people shouldn't come in at 10"?

We have these annoying things called "meetings" that usually start around 9am. It's usually frowned upon if you don't show up for those.
 

sourceninja

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There's nothing wrong with employers adapting to employee's schedules when possible. Not only does it make sense, it would be foolish not to at least consider it. If an employee is 10% more effective from 10am-6pm than 7am-3pm, why would you turn that down because "people shouldn't come in at 10"?

Right it is give and take on both sides. I prefer to work at home, but I make a point to go to the office for any meetings. I feel that it's silly to dial into a meeting when I"m 15 minutes from the office. I also adjust my work schedule around my clients. If 8am is what works for them, then we have a 8am meeting. If they are on the other side of the country we might have a 7pm meeting.
 

Chaotic42

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Right it is give and take on both sides. I prefer to work at home, but I make a point to go to the office for any meetings. I feel that it's silly to dial into a meeting when I"m 15 minutes from the office. I also adjust my work schedule around my clients. If 8am is what works for them, then we have a 8am meeting. If they are on the other side of the country we might have a 7pm meeting.

I work from home a lot, especially when I'm doing things unrelated to the people in my office. It's a 78 degree cube farm with lots of people talking and uncomfortable furniture/keyboards/etc. I'm way more productive at home, so there's no point in just being there for the sake of showing up. Sometimes I need to go in daily for months at a time, and that's fine, it's my job. If I have a huge block of work to do, why go in and become instantly less productive?

As far as meetings go, I'm the lone person who isn't a super-early morning person. I work in Missouri and people in our East Coast office seriously come in at 0400 or 0500 ET. We sometimes have trouble with after lunch meetings because they've put in their day by the time our lunch is over. It takes flexibility from everyone to make it work.
 

pcgeek11

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1. That's actually very reasonable, and 2. Does the work actually require your employee to be onsite 100% of the time? God forbid people take breaks because sitting in the same spot for 8 hours is awful.

LOL.

I see you have never worked in a production environment.
 
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Fritzo

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A 15 minute break before and after lunch was a standard part of my day when I worked at a grocery store stocking shelves.

If you think that "I'm going to get coffee in the morning and empty my dog in the afternoon" is somehow a "millenial" thing, then I'm sorry you're an idiot.

The guy wanted to go home, take care of his dog, then come back every day. That's like an hour break + a 30 min. coffee run. Sorry if your proposed job of monitoring $100K+ networks interferes with your life...might not be a good fit.
 

Fritzo

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Yeah, maybe your office was too far from everything. IME, people run all sorts of errands on their breaks, if you're in a built-up enough area that they can do it quick.

Making up a cutesy name for a coffee break is stupid, but that's the biggest problem here.

That was the interviewee's term, not mine. We've adopted it though because it's so elitist sounding :D