Microsoft XP64 Bit Drivers, Beta and Availability . . .

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ViRGE

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Not bad. Still more than I'd like to see, but considering it needs WoW64, 300MB in use is a hell of a lot better than 500MB.
 

Megatomic

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So far the OS is smooth. I had trouble with the latest ATI drivers (install would halt) so I opted to use the Beta 2 drivers and they installed fine. The 6.25 Beta nForce UDP worked great (I was surprised) as did the Audigy drivers. The only hardware problems I have right now are:

1. Game port drivers for A2 ZS refuse to load.
2. No 64 bit drivers for my Leadtek TV2000 Expert card.

I wish there were 64 bit versions of the software I use for me to test out. Sure, WoW64 is nice but I want to use some true 64 bit applications, especially games.
 

Megatomic

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So, has anyone seen any x64 drivers for Leadtek TV2000 cards? I would blow away my WinXP Pro install if I could get my TV card to work in x64, I have some shows I need to "save" coming up soon.

I really like RC1 by the way. Once the debug code is all gone it's gonna be pretty sweet.
 

ViRGE

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No, I haven't seen any 64bit drivers; I would be surprised if Leadtek has been working on them at all, personally. Oh, and correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't debug code be off in a Release Candidate? This is supposed to be a full test of the OS(the assumption being that they think most/all bugs are fixed), so you'd want debugging off, wouldn't you?

PS For anyone that cares, WinBeta has the new version up
 

Megatomic

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You may be right, but isn't mdm.exe machine debug manager? I thought that it is part of the debug code that runs on these beta releases. I definitely could be wrong here so go easy on me. :)

Regarding the leadtek drivers, :thumbsdown: They need to get hot if they plan to be ready for WinXP x64 to be released in the next few months.
 

ViRGE

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MDM is a debugger, but it's present in all systems. My 32bit Windows has it loaded right now. I guess IE likes to use it with script errors.
 

Megatomic

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Ok. I'm trying to remember what other processes were running on previous beta releases so I can compare....
 

ViRGE

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Dangit, I forgot about the protection scheme. I have the image, but lack a CD-key to install it with.:| Even a passable CD key that fails activation would be nice, since it would give me 14 days to come up with a real, good key(or hack around activation).
 

ViRGE

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It's difficult to say. Most games should work, but I do not believe every last game has been tested. With WoW64, there are no major reasons why a game shouldn't work.
 

D1gger

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I have just installed WinXP 64 Bit Edition (Beta) and everything seems to work, with the exception of my network adapter so I have no internet connection.

The system:

Processor AMD Athlon? 64 - FX-53 (Socket 939)
Motherboard Asus® A8V - Deluxe, Socket 939, VIA K800
Memory Corsair 1Gb PC/4000 XMS ProSeries (2 x 512Mb)
DVD Pioneer DVR-107 DVD-RW & CD-RW Drive
CD/RW Liteon 52/32/52 CD-RW Drive
Keyboard & Mouse Logitech® Cordless MX? Duo
LAN Adapter Intel Pro/100 S Desktop Adapter
Primary HD (Raid) 2 x 74 GB Western Digital® Raptor? SATA-150 10,000RPM 8Mb OEM
Secondary Hard Drive 160GB Seagate Barracuda V SATA-150 7200RPM 8Mb 9ms OEM
Graphics Adapter BFG 6800Ultra ? OC
Audio Card SoundBlaster® Audigy? 2 ZS Platinum Pro
OS MS Windows® XP Pro w/ CD & Manual (OEM)
Fedora Core 3 64 Bit Edition
MS Windows® XP Pro 64 Bit Edition

I know the Asus motherboard has an onboard Marvel LAN adapter, but I was having trouble with it being recognized in Linux, so I disabled it and dropped in a spare Intel Pro/100 S Desktop Adapter that I had kicking around. It has worked great in Win/XP and Fedora for months, but there doesn?t seem to be a driver for it included with the BETA version of Win/XP 64bit. I looked on the Intel site and found a link to a driver, but the readme file, it states that it is for the Intel Itanium processor based systems only. Has anyone tried it with the AMD Athlon 64? I?m going to give it a try this weekend, but was looking for any issues before I start.
 

ViRGE

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Let me check for a driver for the A8V tonight, I know there's one somewhere.
 

glugglug

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NVRAID FINALLY WORKS DURING WINDOWS INSTALL in 64-bit mode using the 6.25 drivers from http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_udp_winxp64_6.25, and doesn't try to screw with all my drive letters.

To get them onto a floppy to install using F6 when installing 64-bit windows onto your RAID, you have to decompress the installer archive with WinRAR or other util, then put the files from the IDE subdirectory on the floppy. (But not the RAIDTOOL directory under that because that is 5MB). RAIDTOOL is for the GUI RAID manager tool, so it will work without this and you can install it after the windows install completes from the unified nForce setup installer.

BOTH items it finds on the floppy (the IDE driver AND the RAID driver) must be selected during install.

Windows will complain about the 2 .cat files not being on the floppy (since this is not WHDL certified), just press ESC to skip those files. It will also give a whole slew of warnings, one for each drive & IDE/SATA controller in your system, about the drivers not being certified.

 

LocutusX

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Let's talk Java...

I installed the AMD64 Win64 build of JRE 1.5.0 (posted at Sun.com) and it seemed to install fine. Problem is it's not being used by IE (64-bit or x86). Anyone know how to enable it?
 

mastertech01

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Originally posted by: LocutusX
So, any ideas on how I can get Java working? :/

I didnt find any Win64 support for Java at all. I just followed the instructions at Microsoft using the 32bit version of IE. With 32bit IE I clicked the Java download link for Windows, and instead of saving to disk I selected to open. Java then downloaded and installed and works fine in 32bit IE. (NOTE>>> USING ON INTEL Nocona x86-64 platform)

 

nealh

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So how 64bit WinXP run vs 32bit on a A64 3200 939..is it faser..sounds like there are still a fair amount of issues?

I purchased a A64 3200 with Neo2 plat and have considered running 64bit OS....can you just load winxp 64bit om ide channel get winxp 64 up and running and then install the NV raid drivers...I realize this no help if you only have a SATA drive
 

nealh

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thanks...will this be able to those who get the Beta WinXP 64 from our mobo company..MSI is offering with the Neo 2 Plat
 

Megatomic

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The only thing I don't like about XP64 so far is that there are two IEs (one 32bit, one 64bit), and whenever you click on a link to open a browser, the 32bit IE is the one that is opened. What's the logic there?
 

mastertech01

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I went back to 32bit XP until some more driver support comes about for the Intel platform. AMD rules for the driver support at this time. Its no fun having a great OS with no audio.
 

wclong

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I dont seem to have the problem with links opening IE32. When I click a link it opens IE64.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: LocutusX
wait for build 1289 (RC1) to become public, then try it out.
I really doubt MS is going to make 1289 public; they only made any of this public in the first place because of pressure from AMD, and the fact that the whole shift to 64bit effectively needed MS to release something so that the tinkerers could get on board, and get the whole process rolling. 1218 was nothing more than an update that MS needed to push out because the previous version wouldn't recognize Intel's processors and the timebomb was running out. With the RCs, MS has XP64 fasttracked to going gold, and they're not going to waste their time releasing another public version both so soon after 1218, and so close to the releases of the later RCs and the final version.

PS Has anyone figured out how to "liberate" 1289?