Microsoft wins appeal in Java case

[manly]

FWIW,

The last time XZeroII "debated" with me with his "I hate XYZ with a passion" arguments:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=1059490

Never said I wasn't comforable with choices. Someone create a new, good language and I'll be happy. Don't just copy C++, take out some great features, slow it down to a crawl in a virtual machine and call it something new.

Okay, I admit I put those words in your mouth. But they're a logical conclusion. You simply don't understand Java, or the reasons it has been called a watered-down C++. Most of those missing language features were DESIGN CHOICES by Sun engineers who are each much more intelligent than you are. You don't have to like Java, but you simply miss the point. It's a high-level applications programming language, not a systems programming language.

Hate Java all you want to; at the beginning and end of the day you simply don't even get it.

C# must have cherry-picked much of the philosophy of Java because it stinks so much eh? Only took them 6 years to do it too, and only because MS wasn't able to "embrace and extend" Java within the bounds of its license contract.

 

[Harvey]

The Borg of Redmond strike again. Windows happens. :disgust:

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: manly
FWIW,

The last time XZeroII "debated" with me with his "I hate XYZ with a passion" arguments:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=1059490

Never said I wasn't comforable with choices. Someone create a new, good language and I'll be happy. Don't just copy C++, take out some great features, slow it down to a crawl in a virtual machine and call it something new.

Okay, I admit I put those words in your mouth. But they're a logical conclusion. You simply don't understand Java, or the reasons it has been called a watered-down C++. Most of those missing language features were DESIGN CHOICES by Sun engineers who are each much more intelligent than you are. You don't have to like Java, but you simply miss the point. It's a high-level applications programming language, not a systems programming language.

Hate Java all you want to; at the beginning and end of the day you simply don't even get it.

C# must have cherry-picked much of the philosophy of Java because it stinks so much eh? Only took them 6 years to do it too, and only because MS wasn't able to "embrace and extend" Java within the bounds of its license contract.

I don't see why you have to bring up that thread. It has nothing to do with what's going on now (except for the fact that you are misinterpreting what I am saying AGAIN). Reread that other thread and you'll see what I mean. Next (and listen carefully), I TOLD YOU WHY I HATE IT. I have a right to hate it for my own reasons. Quit trying to explain to me stuff I already know! Different people like different languages. I happen to like other languages and dislike this one. Live with it. Quit trying to force your crappy programming language on me!

 

[neutralizer]

Crap... I'm learning it next year for AP Computer Sci.

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: neutralizer
Crap... I'm learning it next year for AP Computer Sci.

it's an easy language to learn

 

[neutralizer]

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: neutralizer
Crap... I'm learning it next year for AP Computer Sci.

it's an easy language to learn

I'd rather do C++.

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: neutralizer

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: neutralizer
Crap... I'm learning it next year for AP Computer Sci.

it's an easy language to learn

I'd rather do C++.

learning java will make c++ easier to learn also

 

[Stark]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Yay they can incorporate their virtual machine again! Screw Sun's vm, it sucks!

AMEN!!

 

[ScottyB]

Next the courts have to force Sun to stop making super lame-ass keyboards.

 

[Vadatajs]

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I really like Microsoft. I have nothing against them. When they buy my company out and leave me jobless I will then hate them. Until then, YAY!

Microsoft, I believe, represents America partially with hardwork and determination.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[FeathersMcGraw]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
I can't really explain it, but the hatred is pretty deep. I suppose if I had to choose one thing that I didn't like, it would be that there isn't a good IDE.

So you'll be making a career out of programming Visual Basic?

I suppose you tried Eclipse, Forte/Netbeans, and JBuilder.

 

[glen]

Where can I get msjavx86_XP.exe ?

 

[manly]

Originally posted by: glen
Where can I get msjavx86_XP.exe ?

Ask Nocturnal. His opinion sounds authoritative on JVMs.

 

[Aquaman]

Who would win Microsoft or Nissan? :Q

Cheers.
Aquaman

 

[Zebo]

If apple made thier windows actually maximize and minimize like the microsoft OSs I would be enitrely a convert to apple. Sounds small I know but to me it's a huge deal.

What's with this generation and it's overdog mentality?

 

[Rent]

Originally posted by: Aquaman
Who would win Microsoft or Nissan? :Q Cheers. Aquaman

Coke.

 

[newbiepcuser]

Originally posted by: notfred
You hate java because....?

C# is better.