Microsoft Windows X I mean 10

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Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Huh? Isin't the next one going to be called 9?

What I don't get is how they are so inconsistent in their naming schemes.

ex:
(not counting the server versions and may have skipped some near the start)
Windows 1.x: use version number
Windows Bob: use a name
Windows 3.x: back to using version number
Windows 95: Using year now
Windows 98: Gaining some consistency here, using the year again
Windows 2000/ME: Now we're talking (I'll consider "ME" as using the year, since it was the Millennium)
Windows XP: Huh? Going back to using a name I guess
Windows Vista: Ok guess they'll do way with years and version numbers
Windows 7: Huh? 7 what? What's this number for? Was there even a 6, a 5 ..a 1? Why 7?
Windows 8: Still kind of confused
Windows 9: Ok I guess this is simple enough, but why didn't you start at 1! I'm confused.

Windows 95 = Windows 4.0
Windows 98 = Windows 4.10
Windows ME = Windows 4.90 (almost 5.0, because they included some features from the NT line)
Windows 2000 = Windows (NT) 5.0 (this is where the NT line takes over)
Windows XP = Windows 5.1
Windows Vista = Windows 6.0
Windows 7 = Windows 6.1
Windows 8 = Windows 6.2 (I'm not even joking)
Windows 10 = presumably Windows 7.0
 

cronos

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Nov 7, 2001
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gonna be twice the price as previous versions of windows watch

calling it now

what did windows 8 sell for? windows 10 gonna be atleast $50 more

Huh. If anything, the trend is the price keeps going down. I expect this version of Windows to be free or something low, maybe between $25-$50.
 

bbhaag

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Maybe it was intended for enterprise customers. Those guys are the ones who seem to bitch the loudest even though they're 5+ years behind when it comes to software.
 

RelaxTheMind

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Your kidding right?, those look like games I played on my Commodore 64.

click the top sellers tab on that list to see more familiar games. steam is just funny on how it lists games if you dont search for specific games. you will always see several pages of shitty games for pc/mac as well.
 

Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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I wonder if Windows 8 users are getting this one for free or not, since now they can just say "That was for windows 9, not 10" as an excuse to back out of that deal.

Though, to be honest, it does look like it will be much better than 8. Still early to tell though.
 

rockyct

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Windows 95 = Windows 4.0
Windows 98 = Windows 4.10
Windows ME = Windows 4.90 (almost 5.0, because they included some features from the NT line)
Windows 2000 = Windows (NT) 5.0 (this is where the NT line takes over)
Windows XP = Windows 5.1
Windows Vista = Windows 6.0
Windows 7 = Windows 6.1
Windows 8 = Windows 6.2 (I'm not even joking)
Windows 10 = presumably Windows 7.0

If you consider Windows 8 to be Windows 6.2, then Windows 10 is Windows 6.2.5.
 

jlee

Lifer
Sep 12, 2001
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Maybe it was intended for enterprise customers. Those guys are the ones who seem to bitch the loudest even though they're 5+ years behind when it comes to software.

Haha, we still have clients with production WinXP and Server 2003 systems.
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
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IMO a good reason not to call it "Windows 9" is because many refer to Windows 8 / 8.1 as 8x, the Windows 95 branch as 9x, and if Windows 9 received a .1 update at some point... wait, Microsoft is making a sensible naming choice?!?

"Windows Live"... everything... inc. Mail / Hotmail...
Outlook / .com
".net"... everything
Office 365 web-based / not-web-based

I'm sure there are more examples. Does calling an OS "Windows" (8x) where windows are considered passée count? :p
 

Maximilian

Lifer
Feb 8, 2004
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If you consider Windows 8 to be Windows 6.2, then Windows 10 is Windows 6.2.5.

Its the actual version numbers. 8.1 is 6.3

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ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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Dominates with decades old code with little too no oversight apparently.

True, but Linux has had far more highly publicized security vulnerabilities (Heartbleed, then Shellshock) recently.

At least most Linux patches still do not require a server reboot to take effect.
 

slag

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Dec 14, 2000
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I don't get why they skipped 9?

It's because 7 8(ate) 9, don't you remember?

We all learned that as kids.

EDIT.. hmm, I see this was covered in post # 41. Move along.
 
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lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Recently read some articles that 9 would be a free upgrade for 8 (unclearif it would also be for 7), anyone see anything new about that?
 

BlitzPuppet

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It doesn't look bat at all :D. I may actually consider upgrading from 7 since I skipped 8.
 

destrekor

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Windows 95 = Windows 4.0
Windows 98 = Windows 4.10
Windows ME = Windows 4.90 (almost 5.0, because they included some features from the NT line)
Windows 2000 = Windows (NT) 5.0 (this is where the NT line takes over)
Windows XP = Windows 5.1
Windows Vista = Windows 6.0
Windows 7 = Windows 6.1
Windows 8 = Windows 6.2 (I'm not even joking)
Windows 10 = presumably Windows 7.0

I completely expect Windows 10 to ship with NT 6.4. I think there is going to be simply a unification of current Windows API and other kernel factors throughout the rest of the Microsoft/Windows family, as opposed to any significant sweeping changes that would result in a new kernel version.

A new kernel version immediately after Windows 8 would also likely be a disaster. It was the reason the consumer-side launch of NT 5 (5.1, XP) was such a botched launch until significant improvements (service packs). It was the reason Vista had an uphill battle. They don't change the kernel version major number for the hell of it, it represents sweeping overhauls, and typically demands developers almost start over with overhaul their product.

Drivers are almost always the most obvious problem facing major kernel revisions, since new kernel stacks and the other API changes basically cause numerous stability issues when developers fail to create solid drivers early in the life of the new kernel. This gets addressed, and other unforeseen issues get patched up and improved upon, which is why the point releases have always been rather significant leaps in performance and stability over previous releases.

Windows 8 was a rather odd undertaking for Microsoft. They wanted to change the user interaction paradigm, but I think the goal was one step at a time, so that was the largest functional change (including additional APIs, though not rewriting the kernel stack or revising previous APIs) while they kept the major development side of the house in relative order for stability.
It was still botched, but in a relatively new way for Microsoft. It wasn't driver instability due to a new kernel, it was over-reaching and other missteps.

A new kernel now? They still have to save face from the previous OS release, which was, underneath it all, on a very stable platform. A new platform bound to introduce instabilities? Eeek.

Frankly, I don't expect an NT 7.0 for a long while. Considering Microsoft has apparently seen a way to unify development across mobile and integrated platforms into the current NT 6.x series (albeit entirely related to only the new APIs introduced in 6.2/6.3 - you won't see Photoshop suddenly appear on the Xbox platform), I'd say they have a very solid kernel that is keeping up with modern demands.

Microsoft's approach to kernel version numbers is an ancient modest one - only the most sweeping, significant changes cause a major version number. Almost all of the regular improvements are found in point releases.
This is very much different from Apple's approach with the Darwin kernel/system. Darwin started at 1.x for Mac OS X 10.0, and OS X 10.10 will ship with Darwin 14.0.

It's sort of like where Linux still stands, at v3.16.3, or where one of the base components of Apple's hybrid kernel, Mach, has remained for awhile, at v3.0.
 

piasabird

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Feb 6, 2002
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Maybe they need a biblical version and call it Win 7 * 70?

Alternatively they can call it Win 666!
 
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