Are you for real? GI joe does the same thing? I can't remember if GI Joe is even on the air or even popular with 5-10 year olds today. Growing up I don't remember any state-run TV network showing palestinians with hook-noses and devil-horns and equating them to "pigs worthy of slaughter". Any shows today try to teach respect, friendliness, and cooperation, never killing. jeez unbelievable. I can't see Sesame Street ,bob the builder, barney & disney EVER doing something like this. Just unreal anyone would defend it under the guise of "we do it too" ...asinine. Why can't they let their children play and have fun and leave your freaking politics at work. how demonic.
Come on you dont see there is little difference between labeling Jews pigs and infidels animals worthy of slaughter and us indoctrinating our kids for when Cobra, Skeletor, or the Deceptagons show up? And it is war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I for one am glad our indoctrination has wiped Cobra, Skeletor, and the Deceptagon races off the earth!
I remember when GI Joe and Cobra actually resolved their differences and teamed up to fight in the "War on Drugs"!!!
Now that I think about it Snake Eyes probly never talked because he was high as a kite.
I ask again.. did the video say anything about suicide bombings?
I didn't watch it because I don't care what the hell it says. I have better things to do with my life.. like post on here,., yeah.
I just saw a clip of it on Foxnews and I didn't hear anything mentioning suicide bombings. More like Allah will help us liberate Iraq and Israel B.S. talk.
I didn't watch it because I don't care what the hell it says. I have better things to do with my life.. like post on here,., yeah.
I just saw a clip of it on Foxnews and I didn't hear anything mentioning suicide bombings. More like Allah will help us liberate Iraq and Israel B.S. talk.
Seems like Aimster needs some handholding again.
Gotta love how he goes on making assertions based on something he didn't even bother watching.
Oh well, gotta love one of the lines there, where the kid sings "it's time for death"; seems like the show is accomplishing its goal.
Gotta love how he goes on making assertions based on something he didn't even bother watching.
Oh well, gotta love one of the lines there, where the kid sings "it's time for death"; seems like the show is accomplishing its goal.
Still waiting for your in-depth comparison of this filth with G.I. Joe and Pokemon.
I got to say, I'm surprised by the people defending this show. I hardly have the same attitude towards Muslims as some of the more "conservative" posters on here, but this clearly crosses the line...this isn't about Islam or faith or culture or anything, this is teaching children that the best way to deal with real people you don't agree with is to kill them. That's not OK no matter what your cause is, or how justified you think you are. Period.
On a related topic, I wonder about how things are seen outside of a particular culture. While I'm not suggesting any sort of equivalence here, I DO think that some of the comments in this thread could be taken quite the wrong way without too much trouble. I'm sure not even the bigger jackasses on P&N actually want to wipe out all Muslims, but the comments on here could very easily lead someone to believe otherwise. No effort is made to separate the bad guys from the entire religion and everyone who practices it, suggesting that "Islam needs to be dealt with" and similar comments. Here in the US, we understand that such comments are just cheap imitations of the asshole-on-TV phenomenon, but in other parts of the world, when people start talking like that, it usually means some mass graves will be shortly forthcoming.
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How can I be afraid of someone so childish that considers it imperative to put my handle in his signature in order to prove something?
You've proven yourself to be incapable of having a normal discussion, or even comprehending the implications of matters: al-Mickey in this case. You are very much in line with the we-do-the same crowd who equates this with Pokemon. As a side point, notice how Narmer vanished after we've all asked him to explain how this show and G.I. Joe are equal, or how the "strong military culture" he referred to. You on the other hand are too thick to connect the dots, even after I provided you some videos where 11 year old girls talk about their desire to die.
Well Aimster, that's how it works: when they are young you brainwash them with broad principles and ideas, as that is easier for them to take in. Then, when they get older, they already take the need to die as a given and do not question it; at that point they are very much willing and all you have to do is take care of the "able" through training and hardware.
Here's a lovely picture for you to ponder on while restocking your tissues.
How can I be afraid of someone so childish that considers it imperative to put my handle in his signature in order to prove something?
You've proven yourself to be incapable of having a normal discussion, or even comprehending the implications of matters: al-Mickey in this case. You are very much in line with the we-do-the same crowd who equates this with Pokemon. As a side point, notice how Narmer vanished after we've all asked him to explain how this show and G.I. Joe are equal, or how the "strong military culture" he referred to. You on the other hand are too thick to connect the dots, even after I provided you some videos where 11 year old girls talk about their desire to die.
Well Aimster, that's how it works: when they are young you brainwash them with broad principles and ideas, as that is easier for them to take in. Then, when they get older, they already take the need to die as a given and do not question it; at that point they are very much willing and all you have to do is take care of the "able" through training and hardware.
Here's a lovely picture for you to ponder on while restocking your tissues.
Pokemon? Who watches that garbage? Stop trying to steer the argument towards your strengths. I've already discussed this in a general sense. Go back and read and come back with logical questions. People like you want palestinians to be weak, cowering people who will cry when you take their lands instead of fighting. Well, I hope they continue to kill the Israelis who want to kill them or separate them from their land. It's not awfully difficult to understand and you trying to brandish their methodologies as something lower than yours doesn't phase them or me in any way. Unless you can show me that the Palestinians are being unfair when it comes to killing Israelis (rather than the other way around), your lies are falling on deaf ears. You'd be wasting your time and mine if you continue this diatribe without discussing the strength of all the parties involve. Even though you think your morals and dogmas are above and beyond the Palestinians, your explanantions are quite unimpressive and boring. If you really want to improve your argument, take away the semantics and gloss and look at the raw nature of the two parties. There, and only there, will you see that you are no different than your enemy. Barbarism is evident on both sides so stop with the B.S..
Sorry to be the one to say it but you sound like a real ignorant dumbf#ck. Beyond stupid.
Are you saying that randomly targeting children, women and innocent civilians in buses or in malls is fair? How dumb can you be?
In war there is always collateral damage, you think the US has never bombed innocents?, or engaged in bio warfare. a country with no army and no real weapons @ their disposal has to operate in an underhanded and sadicious manner to even hope to succeed @ it's goal. its called guerilla warfare. you can all debate ethics and bitch about whats right and wrong all you want, but there are no rules in war, the victor is he who will do what it takes to win, no matter what atrocities need to be committed. Maybe bush should have thought of that before declaring a global war on radical religious parties and organizations. when you can call just about anyone a terrorist, what one man may call a terrorist, could also be called a patriot by his countrymen.
Granted brainwashing kids is the lowest of lows, but why do we care all of a sudden? there have been 8y/o soldiers in africa for decades and america could careless, the difference in perspective is what separtes us from them, the way we live disgusts them, and vice versa, you can't justify your methodologies if you refuse to be logical, and understand that every nation has a right to defend itself, others may resort to uglier methods but in the end every country believes the ends justify the means, and if our government could get away with it, they'd use mickey to recruit kids too.
The fact we are missing while bickering about the vehicle used to convey the message, is the radicals are gearing up the next generation of radicals, do not forget these are not people who fight 10 year wars, they drag out violence for centuries, The US got itself stuck a little deeper in the **** than it expected to, but whats done can't be undone. If you don't have the stomach to accept the realities of war, don't debate it. The fact is those people will do what it takes to swell their ranks, just like we do when we let the military go to H.s.'s to scoop up the kids who can't afford college....
As for religions teaching hatred, they are all guilty of that(except buddism of course) at one time or another all patriarical religions have spread themselves by the sword or condoned hatred of another race or religion, that is not exclusive to islam. christans and catholics are more guilty of this than anyone, it was they who coined the word "infidel" after all, the muslims merely use it against them today.
Granted brainwashing kids is the lowest of lows, but why do we care all of a sudden? there have been 8y/o soldiers in africa for decades and america could careless, the difference in perspective is what separtes us from them, the way we live disgusts them, and vice versa, you can't justify your methodologies if you refuse to be logical, and understand that every nation has a right to defend itself, others may resort to uglier methods but in the end every country believes the ends justify the means, and if our government could get away with it, they'd use mickey to recruit kids too.
The fact we are missing while bickering about the vehicle used to convey the message, is the radicals are gearing up the next generation of radicals, do not forget these are not people who fight 10 year wars, they drag out violence for centuries, The US got itself stuck a little deeper in the **** than it expected to, but whats done can't be undone. If you don't have the stomach to accept the realities of war, don't debate it. The fact is those people will do what it takes to swell their ranks, just like we do when we let the military go to H.s.'s to scoop up the kids who can't afford college....
As for religions teaching hatred, they are all guilty of that(except buddism of course) at one time or another all patriarical religions have spread themselves by the sword or condoned hatred of another race or religion, that is not exclusive to islam. christans and catholics are more guilty of this than anyone, it was they who coined the word "infidel" after all, the muslims merely use it against them today.
Please tell me what is fair since you seem so knowledgable in this matter: The targets or the actual number of victims killed?
IMHO, civilians in a democracy are prime targets since they are the ones that yield ultimate power. It is these same civilians that underwrite and back government policy. If they didn't, it wouldn't be policy. As a civilian, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
But even if we were to disregard that common sense argument for a bit, if you look at Israeli vs. Palestinian kills, you will see that the Israelis kill far more Palestinian civilians, even when they're targeting militants. Hell, if a suicide bomb goes off in Israel proper, the government has no problem sending rockets into an apartment block, to get that one militant that was responsible for the attack. But of course they don't mean to kill the civilians when they bomb an entire neighborhood
.Love your logic Narmer: "everybody is a legitimate target, but I'll bitch and moan about a supposed human shield use by Israeli soldiers"; really shows how "neutral" you are in the whole matter.
Also, what is Israel supposed to do about the masterminds behind suicide bombing? Avoid attacking them because they hide among civilians? Let's hear your alternative, mr. military genius.
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By the way you are -- as usual -- avoid making the distinction between deaths and focus on the numbers; there's been another thread about this kind of nonsense and many pointed out that without a context, these numbers are nothing but propaganda. It is pretty much a fact that all Israeli civilians deaths are due to intentional targetting, while palestinian deaths are not intentional (not even strikes on militans, as the militans are responsible for bringing the fight to their neighborhood).
EDIT2
As for the original topic of the thread, the AFP thinks the best name for this garbage is "resistance mickey". Makes you wonder what AFP's story would be if Disney's mouse was preaching christian values, and telling kids they'll go to hell if they aren't good.
Also, what is Israel supposed to do about the masterminds behind suicide bombing? Avoid attacking them because they hide among civilians? Let's hear your alternative, mr. military genius.
EDIT
By the way you are -- as usual -- avoid making the distinction between deaths and focus on the numbers; there's been another thread about this kind of nonsense and many pointed out that without a context, these numbers are nothing but propaganda. It is pretty much a fact that all Israeli civilians deaths are due to intentional targetting, while palestinian deaths are not intentional (not even strikes on militans, as the militans are responsible for bringing the fight to their neighborhood).
EDIT2
As for the original topic of the thread, the AFP thinks the best name for this garbage is "resistance mickey". Makes you wonder what AFP's story would be if Disney's mouse was preaching christian values, and telling kids they'll go to hell if they aren't good.
So if terrorist came to the country where you live and killed you mother, father and entire family while they rode on the bus you would have no problem with it all since they "yield the ultimate power"? Most of the infants and other young children that your freedom fighters killed must have been child prodigies for holding the "ULTIMATE POWER" at the time of their death after being intentionally targeted
Good to know where you stand. Keep digging, your lame excuses that mask your apologetic, if not sympathetic attitude towards mass murderers is making you look pretty retarded.
who cares how many palestinians are killed, whether they are men women or children, since they are all legitimate and thus prime targets.
If terrorists came here and killed my parents or even me, I would understand. I would blame my government for not protecting them. Unlike you and others on this board, my understandings are extremely lucent. Civilians in a democratic society should never get a free pass IMHO because they support the government they elect. You have a problem with it? Tough. Life isn't fair. If you are a member of a democratic society and you condone your nation attacking other nations, then your ass better be prepared to be attacked. No sympathy.
You know damn well why I created that thread: to highlight the hypocrisy in Israel's policy on human shield. Furthermore, you of all people should know that I espouse no double standard towards any group.
So you are saying that the 9/11 attacks were justified- correct? Please answer yes or no.
And what if you're a card carrying member of the ACLU, voted for the communist party of America and hate our foreign policy? Do you still deserve to die simply for living in a Democratic country? Maybe you should move to an authoritarian paradise like Iran. You would fit in very well there.
9/11? Seeing all the lives that have been lost because of our backing of corrupt, undemocratic governments over the decades, the answer is an obvious yes. We definitely had it coming. To think otherwise is the epitome of being naive.
If you are a member of the groups you mentioned and you die or are injured because of terrorism directly at the United States, then you know where the blame lies. Besides, if you don't condone our nation attacking other nations, then you don't deserve to get hit because you are against such policies.
I have no intention of moving to Iran because America is corrupt. As an American, the best thing I can do is to make my country a better place for everyone, not make it easier for the aggressors to hold on to power.
LMFAO, the epitome of being naive? Are you kidding me? So now the terrorist should interview everyone on the bus or in the market to determine their political stance? And do you really think they give a crap about who deserves to get hit? What world do you live in?
Keep digging.
The terrorists don't have to interview a single person. Their terrorist actions should be enough to get people to notice. Look, I'm not God so I won't tell you the names of which individuals deserve to die, but I will certainly understand if weak people decide to strike back, blindly, at those they feel have done them wrong. I was making a general case for a nation, not a specific case as to individuals. Unfortunately, I fell for your trap but now realize it. Like I said before, life isn't fair. When things happen, there will always be innocent people that get caught up in the tragedy, but their tragedy should not be an excuse or reason to see the action as bad in and of itself. If man or nature could direct their ire to specific individuals then I'm sure they would do that. But in the real world you always have residuals.
I will say this again: if you live in a democracy and you condone attacks on other nations or peoples, don't be surprise if the chicken comes home to roost.
EDIT: As for 9/11, in case it wasn't obvious to you, the terrorists went after the White House, Pentagon, and Twin Towers. Those three targets symbolically represent political power, military power, and financial power, respectively.
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