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imported_dna

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Originally posted by: Narmer
IF you are trying to convince me, then you've completely failed and I suggest we stop.
Hey, whatever works for you in avoiding the simple questions.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything -- I'm just pointing out to others what a phoney you are and what an insidious way of thinking you have. You are an appologists for terrorists and that's a fact.

Originally posted by: GrGr
Well I think the situation in the ME is precarious enough that we don't need Neocon translators to put a pro-Israeli spin on things.
Sure, lets focus on a supposed mistranlsation, while having a show for children with a little girl, bright colors and a micky mouse that talks about martydom, blood and souls; I guess that's just business as usual for you.
 

imported_dna

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Another fine video with little girls dressed up as suicide bombers and "freedom fighters".

I trust that that the usual suspects won't cry foul on the grounds of "mistranslation" on this one.
 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: dna
Another fine video with little girls dressed up as suicide bombers and "freedom fighters".

I trust that that the usual suspects won't cry foul on the grounds of "mistranslation" on this one.

This is appalling. Religion of peace my ass.
 

Narmer

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Originally posted by: dna
Originally posted by: Narmer
IF you are trying to convince me, then you've completely failed and I suggest we stop.
Hey, whatever works for you in avoiding the simple questions.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything -- I'm just pointing out to others what a phoney you are and what an insidious way of thinking you have. You are an appologists for terrorists and that's a fact.

Originally posted by: GrGr
Well I think the situation in the ME is precarious enough that we don't need Neocon translators to put a pro-Israeli spin on things.
Sure, lets focus on a supposed mistranlsation, while having a show for children with a little girl, bright colors and a micky mouse that talks about martydom, blood and souls; I guess that's just business as usual for you.

Please, tell me and others here how I'm a phoney because I didn't even know you were trying to make that point.
 

imported_dna

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Seems like youtube got offended by the video. Luckily there are other ways to see it.

As for you Narmer, I really have nothing to say -- you believe in the terrorist's right to commit acts of terrorism, and that's all one needs to know about you.
 

Narmer

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Originally posted by: dna
Seems like youtube got offended by the video. Luckily there are other ways to see it.

As for you Narmer, I really have nothing to say -- you believe in the terrorist's right to commit acts of terrorism, and that's all one needs to know about you.

Ahhh, can't prove that I'm a phoney, huh? You must be accustomed to lying. Anyway, let's leave it at that. A baker is gonna bake. A student is going to study. And a terrorist is going to committ acts of terrorism. You're not saying anything with that statement.

I believe in common sense. If you believe in absolutes, then you will have a hard time fitting your logic into reality.
 

imported_dna

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One only needs to read your postings to find out what you're about, while your "common sense" goes as far as justifying the 9/11 attacks.

If you want to make any more empty statements regarding bakers, students, and terrorists, then by all means carry on -- you've been making a lot of those to justify your "common sense".
 

Narmer

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Originally posted by: dna
One only needs to read your postings to find out what you're about, while your "common sense" goes as far as justifying the 9/11 attacks.

If you want to make any more empty statements regarding bakers, students, and terrorists, then by all means carry on -- you've been making a lot of those to justify your "common sense".

In your opinion the 9/11 attacks are unjustifiable under ANY circumstance. That is an absolute statement. Try explaining it to the many Americans and countless people around the world who disagree with you. No one is saying that the individuals deserve to die. All I, and others, are saying is that there will be consequences for actions taken. Our support for corrupt and dictatorial regimes in the ME will cause some people to take their frustrations out on the US. It's called blowback. That is common sense.

If you don't understand it, keep talking.
 

imported_dna

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Blowback my ass.

You are forgetting that those dictatorial regimes are their people, and the lack of accountability is nothing new in the Middle East -- do I really need to point out Nasrallah's speechs again? You know, where blames the US for every little problem his followers have.

I stand by my statements: your "common sense" enables such behaviors and rationalizes such actions while absolving those truly in charge of any responsibility.

Shouldn't the Chinese suicide bomb some places in the USA too? They are also being opressed by a dictatorial regime supported by the West -- capital money flowing in for labor, just like it does in the Middle East for Oil.

Come now, get off your pedestal of neutrality and relativity -- you're making very little sense.
 

Narmer

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Originally posted by: dna
Blowback my ass.

You are forgetting that those dictatorial regimes are their people, and the lack of accountability is nothing new in the Middle East -- do I really need to point out Nasrallah's speechs again? You know, where blames the US for every little problem his followers have.

I stand by my statements: your "common sense" enables such behaviors and rationalizes such actions while absolving those truly in charge of any responsibility.

Shouldn't the Chinese suicide bomb some places in the USA too? They are also being opressed by a dictatorial regime supported by the West -- capital money flowing in for labor, just like it does in the Middle East for Oil.

Come now, get off your pedestal of neutrality and relativity -- you're making very little sense.

Last time I checked, the US didn't have military bases in China.

Last time I checked, the US wasn't over-throwing democratic governments in East Asia.

Last time I checked, the US didn't turn a blind eye to corruption in China while propping up the weak and unpopular corrupt governments.

You can dismiss blowback, but that term comes from our own CIA who envisioned a scenerio such as 9/11 occuring because of our policies in the Middle East. The dictatorial regimes are their people, who they cannot overthrow because the US is backing them.

Finally, I don't absolve anyone of anything. The fact that those leaders in the ME need to be out of power is a foregone conclusion in my book. But, and again this comes to AMerica's presence in the region, it is impossible so long as America puts her self-interest above and beyond the interests of the people, nothing will change. The United States is the true power in the region and the militant organizations have enough common sense to recognize that.
 

imported_dna

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Last time I checked the 19 hijackers were not fighting for democracy, nor were they likely to have been "repressed". They were following a group that advocated an even harsher regime in Saudi Arabia, so try not to make it seem like a noble struggle.

Additionally, I recall reading about one of them going to Chechniya to do some fighting; I guess going from fighting the russians to flying planes into buildings in the USA makes total sense to you. "Common sense", right?

Admit that you're taking the easy way out and characterizing it as "blowback", when in fact the issue involves the ideology of the infidel & 72 virgins; the again, I'm sure you'd characterize London and Madrid as blowback as well.

As for China, I wasn't aware that the US recently overthrew any democratic governments or propping any unpopular regimes in the Middle East; also, pretty hard to justify suicide bombings by the presence of military bases, otherwise the Japanese are overdue to go kamikaze again.
 

Narmer

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Originally posted by: dna
Last time I checked the 19 hijackers were not fighting for democracy, nor were they likely to have been "repressed". They were following a group that advocated an even harsher regime in Saudi Arabia, so try not to make it seem like a noble struggle.

Additionally, I recall reading about one of them going to Chechniya to do some fighting; I guess going from fighting the russians to flying planes into buildings in the USA makes total sense to you. "Common sense", right?

Admit that you're taking the easy way out and characterizing it as "blowback", when in fact the issue involves the ideology of the infidel & 72 virgins; the again, I'm sure you'd characterize London and Madrid as blowback as well.

As for China, I wasn't aware that the US recently overthrew any democratic governments or propping any unpopular regimes in the Middle East; also, pretty hard to justify suicide bombings by the presence of military bases, otherwise the Japanese are overdue to go kamikaze again.

You're going in circles. You're an awful debater.
 

imported_dna

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You've yet to comment about the points I raised regarding the 9/11 hijackers and their motives; you've only mumbled about blowback and pointed to a thread.

Perhaps I should be happy you didn't point to a Truthers website.
 

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Originally posted by: dna
You've yet to comment about the points I raised regarding the 9/11 hijackers and their motives; you've only mumbled about blowback and pointed to a thread.

Perhaps I should be happy you didn't point to a Truthers website.

Narmer talks about you being a poor debater, but in reality he is talking about himself. The tough questions NEVER get answered by Narmer, nor does he even attempt to respond to them.

I'll ask you again Narmer, the 9/11 hijackers were in flight school learning how to fly planes while Israel and the Palestinians were on the verge of signing long term peace agreements. The Israelis were on verge, after the death of Rabin, of overwhemingly voting leftist and installing the dove Peres when the oppressed Palestinians started a ruthless campaign of bus bombings, thus giving Netanyahu a razor thin victory. Now you tell me Narmer, if this is really about being oppressed or if its more about doing everything possible to disrupt, destroy and create chaos, with the endgame being total annihiliation of your enemy.

Don't question for a second whether or not these lunatics would use a nuclear weapon if given the chance to kill millions of civilians in the this country. I'd love to hear your rationalizations for that should your entire family be taken out by one. So go ahead, dig your hole deeper and tell me why a nuclear device blown up in downtown Manhatten would be a justifiable act, since you already have made it clear that terrorist acts, 9/11 and other desperate actions are OK in your twisted book.
 

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Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Originally posted by: dna
You've yet to comment about the points I raised regarding the 9/11 hijackers and their motives; you've only mumbled about blowback and pointed to a thread.

Perhaps I should be happy you didn't point to a Truthers website.

Narmer talks about you being a poor debater, but in reality he is talking about himself. The tough questions NEVER get answered by Narmer, nor does he even attempt to respond to them.

I'll ask you again Narmer, the 9/11 hijackers were in flight school learning how to fly planes while Israel and the Palestinians were on the verge of signing long term peace agreements. The Israelis were on verge, after the death of Rabin, of overwhemingly voting leftist and installing the dove Peres when the oppressed Palestinians started a ruthless campaign of bus bombings, thus giving Netanyahu a razor thin victory. Now you tell me Narmer, if this is really about being oppressed or if its more about doing everything possible to disrupt, destroy and create chaos, with the endgame being total annihiliation of your enemy.

Don't question for a second whether or not these lunatics would use a nuclear weapon if given the chance to kill millions of civilians in the this country. I'd love to hear your rationalizations for that should your entire family be taken out by one. So go ahead, dig your hole deeper and tell me why a nuclear device blown up in downtown Manhatten would be a justifiable act, since you already have made it clear that terrorist acts, 9/11 and other desperate actions are OK in your twisted book.


Your thinking is very simplistic. You are equating Al Qaeda, a terrorist organization which has no respect for democracy, with the Palestinian Authority with Hamas and other terrorist organizations in Palestine who have a varying degree of respect for the democratic process. Furthermore, you say all these good things about Israel while ignoring the bad elements in Israel (including the fact that Rabin was killed by an Israeli terrorist).

As for the nukes part, I think the only terrorist organization that would use it would be Al Qaeda because they don't give a damn about anybody else. All the other terrorist organizations are more rational, relatively speaking.

EDIT: As for dna's question, he answered it in the post stamped at: 05/15/2007 08:27 AM and you, bumrush, replied to it. Look it up. He (dna) really is going in circles.
 

imported_dna

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Nope, he didn't answer -- he was just being vague.

He likes to sound philosophical and deep, but ultimately he is a rationalizer and sympathizer of terrorism.

Asserting that 9/11 was a blowback due to foreign policy is simply foolish as it ignores the idealogical aspect of it. The only way he could characterize it as blowback is only if he accepted the terrorists' position -- something that has been avoiding stating outright, but his posts reek of it.
 

Narmer

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Originally posted by: dna
Nope, he didn't answer -- he was just being vague.

He likes to sound philosophical and deep, but ultimately he is a rationalizer and sympathizer of terrorism.

Asserting that 9/11 was a blowback due to foreign policy is simply foolish as it ignores the idealogical aspect of it. The only way he could characterize it as blowback is only if he accepted the terrorists' position -- something that has been avoiding stating outright, but his posts reek of it.

Blowback isn't a term I made up, it comes straight from our own CIA regarding this specific matter. For you to disregard the opinion of those who know more than you is quite telling.

And I answered your question. Seriously, how specific do you want me to be? I'm not an expert on Al Qaeda. You wanna know why they attacked us? Take your skinny ass into the wild mountains of Pakistan:laugh:, I'm sure they'll welcome you.
 

imported_dna

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You have a history of rationalizing terrorism and a reputation of being a sympathizer, so why don't you admit it already instead of hiding behind this or that CIA analyst.

Futhermore, don't cite the CIA when it is convenient, as there are plenty of people -- you included -- who are under the impression that the Palestinian "issue" is the only impediement to ever-lasting peace and happiness in the Middle East. Smarter people recognize that the matter is far more complex, and is much more due to the backward culture of the Arabs in the Middle East, with their corrupt regimes, sinister use of religion, victim mantra, and scapegoating Israel for every little thing.

As for going to Pakistan, I believe you're more suitable, as you believe that anyone is a valid target for aggression and terrorism. In fact, Iraq would definitely be the place for you.
 

RESmonkey

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Originally posted by: jrenz
Originally posted by: Narmer

Sad but how different is it from our own shows where we teach our boys to be good soldiers?

If you honestly can't see a difference, then there is no point in trying to explain it.

Agreed.


What is going on is a new generation that is brain-washed into the perverted ideals of extremist islam.
 

Narmer

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Originally posted by: dna
You have a history of rationalizing terrorism and a reputation of being a sympathizer, so why don't you admit it already instead of hiding behind this or that CIA analyst.

Futhermore, don't cite the CIA when it is convenient, as there are plenty of people -- you included -- who are under the impression that the Palestinian "issue" is the only impediement to ever-lasting peace and happiness in the Middle East. Smarter people recognize that the matter is far more complex, and is much more due to the backward culture of the Arabs in the Middle East, with their corrupt regimes, sinister use of religion, victim mantra, and scapegoating Israel for every little thing.

As for going to Pakistan, I believe you're more suitable, as you believe that anyone is a valid target for aggression and terrorism. In fact, Iraq would definitely be the place for you.

I laugh at you for telling me what I can and cannot use to make a point. You are a clown if you think I will take your dumb advice. Furthermore, I don't support any particular group. In fact, I see people like you and Al Qaeda as one and the same, absolutionists who refuse to take the other side raison d'etre seriously. If I was in Pakistan, I'd most likely take your position and defend your Jews or Americans in Palestine and Iraq, respectively. They'd probably kill me just like they'd kill me if I was in Israel or Iraq. Why? Because people don't like to hear the truth, they just like to spew out their own garbage and can only tolerate Yes-men.

The same way you call the arabs "backward" is probably the same way they see your society. The truth is, you are all the same, that's why you hate each other so much.
 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: dna
Poor Farfour, got beaten to death.

I can't wait to hear how the it-got-mistranslated-by-memri crowd spin this one, as this was of course a legitimate children's show.

At least it will be off the air; i wonder what the "new programming" will be that was mentioned.