Mickey "Suicide Bomber" Mouse

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
In other news, there?s a report saying they?ll take this off the air.

Opps - Mickey "Suicide Bomber" Mouse stays after all.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016375.php

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM

Originally posted by: jrenz

Originally posted by: Narmer

Sad but how different is it from our own shows where we teach our boys to be good soldiers?

If you honestly can't see a difference, then there is no point in trying to explain it.

If you cannot explain it, is there a difference? Don't dodge it!

How do we provide proof of something that doesn't exist? Show me our child programming telling kids to kill themselves in combat against Muslims for "god".

If you manage to do that, I will be the first to call for jail for those who made it.

Is that what the video shows or are you just making stuff up?

The video is a martyrdom video

So which is it? The first line questions what I said, the second line affirms and just plain works under the pretense that it is a martyrdom video.

something that you would see in a G.I. Joe cartoon or those U.S. Military commercials.

?.Power Rangers too, while we?re at it? No, maybe you?re referring to the military specifically. I never felt like killing Muslims after watching cartoons. Maybe after watching Mickey ?Suicide Bomber? Mouse, but then that?s not one of ours.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM

Originally posted by: jrenz

Originally posted by: Narmer

Sad but how different is it from our own shows where we teach our boys to be good soldiers?

If you honestly can't see a difference, then there is no point in trying to explain it.

If you cannot explain it, is there a difference? Don't dodge it!

How do we provide proof of something that doesn't exist? Show me our child programming telling kids to kill themselves in combat against Muslims for "god".

If you manage to do that, I will be the first to call for jail for those who made it.

Is that what the video shows or are you just making stuff up?

The video is a martyrdom video

So which is it? The first line questions what I said, the second line affirms and just plain works under the pretense that it is a martyrdom video.

something that you would see in a G.I. Joe cartoon or those U.S. Military commercials.

?.Power Rangers too, while we?re at it? No, maybe you?re referring to the military specifically. I never felt like killing Muslims after watching cartoons. Maybe after watching Mickey ?Suicide Bomber? Mouse, but then that?s not one of ours.

you never answered the question. Do you see them discussing suicide bombings in particular or martyrdom operations in general? Which one? Why am I even asking you since you love to exaggerate. If I had a son, I would teach him to be strong, fight for what he believes in, and not be afraid of death. These things are no differnt than what that video is saying. It's also what I see everyday in US Military videos and cartoons for young boys. There's NOTHING wrong with that.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Good for you, you called me a xenophobe while not answering my question.

Now please kindly let us know your threshold of when you decide a group of people are a threat. I am sure there were Nazi's who were compassionate, does that mean we dont run into the middle of Germany and remove the threat from top to bottom? I want to know when you will consider a group like Hamas a threat.

Ouch... sorry Genx, you just lost the argument. Godwin's law prevails.

 

[imported_dna]

Yawn......

Gotta love the appologists which compare G.I. Joe (or whatever other cartoon) to this filth.

In case you are deluded, there is no indocrination taking place with G.I. Joe: children merely end up playing with some plastic soldiers, pretend a little bit, and then grow past it.

With the Palestinian they get the full package: suicide baby bomber, the parades where they dress them as soldiers, the school curriculum which is further indoctrination, the constant brainwashing on TV -- finally leading to several teenage boys and girls committing suicide bombing.

It really takes someone of Aimster's intellectual capacity to demand an explanation on how what al-Micky is saying leads to suicide bombing.

Don't worry Aimster, that's down the road after they have grown up.

Here it is Aimster -- these little girls would not have reached this point without an al-Micky of sorts, and a few good journalists.

So, yeah, let's hear it, I'm really curious to know who G.I. Joe taught you to hate, or how you're ready to kill evil monsters and nasty ninjas because you watched all that anime.... I suppose you'll need a few magic cards first :roll:

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: dna
Yawn......

Gotta love the appologists which compare G.I. Joe (or whatever other cartoon) to this filth.

In case you are deluded, there is no indocrination taking place with G.I. Joe: children merely end up playing with some plastic soldiers, pretend a little bit, and then grow past it.

With the Palestinian they get the full package: suicide baby bomber, the parades where they dress them as soldiers, the school curriculum which is further indoctrination, the constant brainwashing on TV -- finally leading to several teenage boys and girls committing suicide bombing.

It really takes someone of Aimster's intellectual capacity to demand an explanation on how what al-Micky is saying leads to suicide bombing.

Don't worry Aimster, that's down the road after they have grown up.

Here it is Aimster -- these little girls would not have reached this point without an al-Micky of sorts, and a few good journalists.

So, yeah, let's hear it, I'm really curious to know who G.I. Joe taught you to hate, or how you're ready to kill evil monsters and nasty ninjas because you watched all that anime.... I suppose you'll need a few magic cards first :roll:

Haven't you heard?

Only in Jesus camp is the truly dangerous indoctrination taking place.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM

Originally posted by: jrenz

Originally posted by: Narmer
Sad but how different is it from our own shows where we teach our boys to be good soldiers?

If you honestly can't see a difference, then there is no point in trying to explain it.

If you cannot explain it, is there a difference? Don't dodge it!

Which shows teach our kids to be good soldiers?

GI Joe? They fight a fictional enemy.
Power Rangers, again a fictional enemy.
Pokemon, everything is make believe.

Now if Cobra ever shows up they are in for one hell of an ass whipping, but I don?t think we have to worry about that.

What groups like Hamas are doing is inexcusable.
?Watch the mouse dance as a child sings about an AK-47?
What the hell is that?

Let's look up the lyrics to the GI Joe theme song and see if there is anything in their about killing... ummm nope.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: dna
Yawn......

Gotta love the appologists which compare G.I. Joe (or whatever other cartoon) to this filth.

In case you are deluded, there is no indocrination taking place with G.I. Joe: children merely end up playing with some plastic soldiers, pretend a little bit, and then grow past it.

With the Palestinian they get the full package: suicide baby bomber, the parades where they dress them as soldiers, the school curriculum which is further indoctrination, the constant brainwashing on TV -- finally leading to several teenage boys and girls committing suicide bombing.

It really takes someone of Aimster's intellectual capacity to demand an explanation on how what al-Micky is saying leads to suicide bombing.

Don't worry Aimster, that's down the road after they have grown up.

Here it is Aimster -- these little girls would not have reached this point without an al-Micky of sorts, and a few good journalists.

So, yeah, let's hear it, I'm really curious to know who G.I. Joe taught you to hate, or how you're ready to kill evil monsters and nasty ninjas because you watched all that anime.... I suppose you'll need a few magic cards first :roll:

Last time I checked, Israel was a nation with a very strong military culture. Necessity is the mother of all inventions. The Palestinians are no different. You can cross your eyes at their tactics, but it's quite successful. So successful that Israel is now building a wall, which is a sign of exasperation that good thinking. Good luck with next time with your double standards.

You can poke fun at the military-influenced cartoons because the enemies were fictional, but the premise was the same as the Hamas video. If you can't understand that, then there is no hope for you.

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: dna
Yawn......

Gotta love the appologists which compare G.I. Joe (or whatever other cartoon) to this filth.

In case you are deluded, there is no indocrination taking place with G.I. Joe: children merely end up playing with some plastic soldiers, pretend a little bit, and then grow past it.

With the Palestinian they get the full package: suicide baby bomber, the parades where they dress them as soldiers, the school curriculum which is further indoctrination, the constant brainwashing on TV -- finally leading to several teenage boys and girls committing suicide bombing.

It really takes someone of Aimster's intellectual capacity to demand an explanation on how what al-Micky is saying leads to suicide bombing.

Don't worry Aimster, that's down the road after they have grown up.

Here it is Aimster -- these little girls would not have reached this point without an al-Micky of sorts, and a few good journalists.

So, yeah, let's hear it, I'm really curious to know who G.I. Joe taught you to hate, or how you're ready to kill evil monsters and nasty ninjas because you watched all that anime.... I suppose you'll need a few magic cards first :roll:

Last time I checked, Israel was a nation with a very strong military culture. Necessity is the mother of all inventions. The Palestinians are no different. You can cross your eyes at their tactics, but it's quite successful. So successful that Israel is now building a wall, which is a sign of exasperation that good thinking. Good luck with next time with your double standards.

You can poke fun at the military-influenced cartoons because the enemies were fictional, but the premise was the same as the Hamas video. If you can't understand that, then there is no hope for you.

So are you saying media has the ability to influence children into performing acts they normally would not, like music, movies, television, and video games?

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: dna
Yawn......

Gotta love the appologists which compare G.I. Joe (or whatever other cartoon) to this filth.

In case you are deluded, there is no indocrination taking place with G.I. Joe: children merely end up playing with some plastic soldiers, pretend a little bit, and then grow past it.

With the Palestinian they get the full package: suicide baby bomber, the parades where they dress them as soldiers, the school curriculum which is further indoctrination, the constant brainwashing on TV -- finally leading to several teenage boys and girls committing suicide bombing.

It really takes someone of Aimster's intellectual capacity to demand an explanation on how what al-Micky is saying leads to suicide bombing.

Don't worry Aimster, that's down the road after they have grown up.

Here it is Aimster -- these little girls would not have reached this point without an al-Micky of sorts, and a few good journalists.

So, yeah, let's hear it, I'm really curious to know who G.I. Joe taught you to hate, or how you're ready to kill evil monsters and nasty ninjas because you watched all that anime.... I suppose you'll need a few magic cards first :roll:

Last time I checked, Israel was a nation with a very strong military culture. Necessity is the mother of all inventions. The Palestinians are no different. You can cross your eyes at their tactics, but it's quite successful. So successful that Israel is now building a wall, which is a sign of exasperation that good thinking. Good luck with next time with your double standards.

You can poke fun at the military-influenced cartoons because the enemies were fictional, but the premise was the same as the Hamas video. If you can't understand that, then there is no hope for you.

So are you saying media has the ability to influence children into performing acts they normally would not, like music, movies, television, and video games?

Of course they do. A child's mind is ripe for enrichment or exploitation.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Narmer
Last time I checked, Israel was a nation with a very strong military culture.

I'm sorry, but can you be a little bit less vague?

Unless you equate a bit of nationalism with systematic brainwashing that leads to 11-year old girls wishing for death.

If you can't understand that, then there is no hope for you.

Don't try to patronize me twirp; you've gone past the phase of "understanding", and ventured into the domain of rationalizing and justifying terrorist and in-humane acts with this post, and many others in the past. So, I guess that if you don't understand that, then there must be no hope for you :roll:

And yeah, I think we're all still waiting for you to tell us who did G.I. Joe and Japanese anime teach you to hate...

 

[Orignal Earl]

Originally posted by: dna


And yeah, I think we're all still waiting for you to tell us who did G.I. Joe and Japanese anime teach you to hate...

We did not have a GI Joe cartoon, but I mainly killed gooks with my GI Joe and I was born and raised in the heartland of Canada

Originally posted by: 1prophet


So are you saying media has the ability to influence children into performing acts they normally would not, like music, movies, television, and video games?

I would say most of the keyboard commandos here got most of their education through games
Open your Steam and just listen in to some of the kiddies

Meanwhile, young Americans can explore a glorious career with the Army and get some shootin practice in here

 

[imported_dna]

Yeah, the Army game is quite unique and novel -- it even predates doom -- and there are no other shoot-them-up games out there.

On top of that, people are flocking to join the army; truly a job well done by them.
The only thing that the army game does is show how unrealistic all the other games are with their bzillion hitpoints and unlimited ammo cheats.

So, do you still hate gooks? Hasn't killing all those fictional gooks got it out of your system?

EDIT
By the way, how many kids in kindergarten do you know that are playing America's Army?
After all, we are trying to equate this with al-Micky.

EDIT2
Here's a page with some more links to quaity Hamas videos. Can't wait for the Teletubies-brainwash-kids crowd to chip in.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Genx87

Good for you, you called me a xenophobe while not answering my question.

Now please kindly let us know your threshold of when you decide a group of people are a threat. I am sure there were Nazi's who were compassionate, does that mean we dont run into the middle of Germany and remove the threat from top to bottom? I want to know when you will consider a group like Hamas a threat.

Ouch... sorry Genx, you just lost the argument. Godwin's law prevails.

I didnt realize this was a competition? Are you able to give us your litmus test or not? I am sure somewhere in the inner workings of your brain, you have the ability to look at a situation or group of people and make a decision if they are a threat or not. If you lack this ability, thank the high heavens we live in a modern world, cause you probably would have tried to befriend a bear and be eaten alive back in the day.

 

[ksaajasto]

thats horrible... there is a video of it out there...

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: Narmer

A child's mind is ripe for enrichment or exploitation.

Yes; and you are here apologizing for terrorists who use this to their advantage. You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Genx87

Good for you, you called me a xenophobe while not answering my question.

Now please kindly let us know your threshold of when you decide a group of people are a threat. I am sure there were Nazi's who were compassionate, does that mean we dont run into the middle of Germany and remove the threat from top to bottom? I want to know when you will consider a group like Hamas a threat.

Ouch... sorry Genx, you just lost the argument. Godwin's law prevails.

I didnt realize this was a competition? Are you able to give us your litmus test or not? I am sure somewhere in the inner workings of your brain, you have the ability to look at a situation or group of people and make a decision if they are a threat or not. If you lack this ability, thank the high heavens we live in a modern world, cause you probably would have tried to befriend a bear and be eaten alive back in the day.

Of course I can answer your stupid loaded question, but you already lost the argument. First person to invoke the Nazi's automatically loses.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Genx87

Good for you, you called me a xenophobe while not answering my question.

Now please kindly let us know your threshold of when you decide a group of people are a threat. I am sure there were Nazi's who were compassionate, does that mean we dont run into the middle of Germany and remove the threat from top to bottom? I want to know when you will consider a group like Hamas a threat.

Ouch... sorry Genx, you just lost the argument. Godwin's law prevails.

I didnt realize this was a competition? Are you able to give us your litmus test or not? I am sure somewhere in the inner workings of your brain, you have the ability to look at a situation or group of people and make a decision if they are a threat or not. If you lack this ability, thank the high heavens we live in a modern world, cause you probably would have tried to befriend a bear and be eaten alive back in the day.

Of course I can answer your stupid loaded question, but you already lost the argument. First person to invoke the Nazi's automatically loses.

Whatever lame excuse you need to use to not answer the question bunkie. What are you 5 years old and need to claim victory?

Besides goodwins law doesnt apply when you are talking about traits of the Nazi party, such as genocide or propaganda. Something Hamas clearly is in favor and performs to this day. Secondly brainiac I wasnt using it as hyperbole, instead as an honest example of a group of people generally regarded as evil, yet there were probably some good apples in the group but it doesnt mean we dont remove the threat because of the few good apples.

But nice try.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: Narmer

A child's mind is ripe for enrichment or exploitation.

Yes; and you are here apologizing for terrorists who use this to their advantage. You should be ashamed of yourself.

No I'm not because all you're doing is name calling. Hamas can call you a terrorist, too. Will that resolve anything? No. We do the same to our young, how is it any different?

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Narmer
Last time I checked, Israel was a nation with a very strong military culture.

I'm sorry, but can you be a little bit less vague?

Unless you equate a bit of nationalism with systematic brainwashing that leads to 11-year old girls wishing for death.

If you can't understand that, then there is no hope for you.

Don't try to patronize me twirp; you've gone past the phase of "understanding", and ventured into the domain of rationalizing and justifying terrorist and in-humane acts with this post, and many others in the past. So, I guess that if you don't understand that, then there must be no hope for you :roll:

And yeah, I think we're all still waiting for you to tell us who did G.I. Joe and Japanese anime teach you to hate...

All your name calling doesn't phase me one bit. Just because you call them "terrorists"" or consider their videos "hate" means that I should pay attention to your swan song? Please. Try with a more convincing argument and I might take you seriously.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Whatever lame excuse you need to use to not answer the question bunkie. What are you 5 years old and need to claim victory?

Besides goodwins law doesnt apply when you are talking about traits of the Nazi party, such as genocide or propaganda. Something Hamas clearly is in favor and performs to this day. Secondly brainiac I wasnt using it as hyperbole, instead as an honest example of a group of people generally regarded as evil, yet there were probably some good apples in the group but it doesnt mean we dont remove the threat because of the few good apples.

But nice try.

Way to go to wikipedia and read up on it, come back and edit your post, and still not understand its useage.

When you referenced the Nazis you equated a terrorist group responsible for about 300 deaths over a decade or more that is fighting in response to what a good portion of the world believes to be an illegal occupation..... to a genocidal regime bent on world domination responsible for more then 50 million deaths and the devastation of Europe. That is a gross exaggeration... which pretty much meets the definition of hyperbole. (don't try to argue the palestinian occupation please, I'm not interested in doing it... I'm not even saying I agree that it is illegal, but many people think so)

You were also using the Nazis not in context of propaganda or genocide. If you had said something like "that mouse trying to indoctrinate children reminds me of the propaganda of the nazis" or something like that, that would be a relation that would certainly have some merit and would not be hyperbole in any way. You instead tried to tie the threat presented by Hamas to Hitler. Laughable.

I'm really not going to discuss this with you any more though, you already reduced this conversation to pedantry with your ridiculous posts anyway.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Genx87

Whatever lame excuse you need to use to not answer the question bunkie. What are you 5 years old and need to claim victory?

Besides goodwins law doesnt apply when you are talking about traits of the Nazi party, such as genocide or propaganda. Something Hamas clearly is in favor and performs to this day. Secondly brainiac I wasnt using it as hyperbole, instead as an honest example of a group of people generally regarded as evil, yet there were probably some good apples in the group but it doesnt mean we dont remove the threat because of the few good apples.

But nice try.

Way to go to wikipedia and read up on it, come back and edit your post, and still not understand its useage.

When you referenced the Nazis you equated a terrorist group responsible for about 300 deaths over a decade or more that is fighting in response to what a good portion of the world believes to be an illegal occupation..... to a genocidal regime bent on world domination responsible for more then 50 million deaths and the devastation of Europe. That is a gross exaggeration... which pretty much meets the definition of hyperbole. (don't try to argue the palestinian occupation please, I'm not interested in doing it... I'm not even saying I agree that it is illegal, but many people think so)

You were also using the Nazis not in context of propaganda or genocide. If you had said something like "that mouse trying to indoctrinate children reminds me of the propaganda of the nazis" or something like that, that would be a relation that would certainly have some merit and would not be hyperbole in any way. You instead tried to tie the threat presented by Hamas to Hitler. Laughable.

I'm really not going to discuss this with you any more though, you already reduced this conversation to pedantry with your ridiculous posts anyway.

Run run away

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: Narmer

A child's mind is ripe for enrichment or exploitation.

Yes; and you are here apologizing for terrorists who use this to their advantage. You should be ashamed of yourself.

No I'm not because all you're doing is name calling. Hamas can call you a terrorist, too. Will that resolve anything? No. We do the same to our young, how is it any different?

I have a way to resolve it. Take their fighters and kill them all.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: Narmer

A child's mind is ripe for enrichment or exploitation.

Yes; and you are here apologizing for terrorists who use this to their advantage. You should be ashamed of yourself.

No I'm not because all you're doing is name calling. Hamas can call you a terrorist, too. Will that resolve anything? No. We do the same to our young, how is it any different?

I have a way to resolve it. Take their fighters and kill them all.

There's three will. One is what you mentioned. The other is they kill all your fighters. The third option is a genuine peace agreement.

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: Narmer

A child's mind is ripe for enrichment or exploitation.

Yes; and you are here apologizing for terrorists who use this to their advantage. You should be ashamed of yourself.

No I'm not because all you're doing is name calling. Hamas can call you a terrorist, too. Will that resolve anything? No. We do the same to our young, how is it any different?

I have a way to resolve it. Take their fighters and kill them all.

There's three will. One is what you mentioned. The other is they kill all your fighters. The third option is a genuine peace agreement.

Listen we all are guilty of flaming rhetoric to further our opinion on these complex issues. But one thing you can not ignore is the fact that terrorist elements on the Palestinian side, or those that fight for those beliefs, are not interested in peace agreements. During the years where peace and a final settlement looked the brightest, Palestinian elements waged a relentless campaign to ensure that Peres was defeated after all the momentum that was gained after the assassination of Rabin. While offers were on the table the 9/11 hijackers were still in flight school, preparing to kill thousands of innocent civilians. So until those factors change, coupled with the Israelis dealing with their extreme right, peace agreements will mean nothing.